Scheduled to arrive in July 2006.
4.5 cu ft
*toploading*
washer/dryer
COMBO
4.5 cu ft
*toploading*
washer/dryer
COMBO
Whirlpool Cabrio
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westytoploader
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All I can say is WOW...I wonder how this will be accomplished? Doesn't say if it's an h-axis machine in the article.
Bouncing basket maybe? I heard it was based on the Oasis in another thread.
Bouncing basket maybe? I heard it was based on the Oasis in another thread.
I'm thinking F&P may be involved in the design. We already know F&P is manufacturing motors for Whirlpool. Will be fascinating to see what exactly is the deal!
I'm suspicious about it being a 'combo' unit. Consider a couple of things: It would have to be a Staber-type machine, right (top loading, but H-axis)? Can you imagine trying to pull clothes out of a tub that deep? You'd need an arm extension!
I'll be a balloon-popper and guess that the Cabrio will be a separate washer and dryer, a twin to the Kenmore Oasis. If I'm wrong, you can all point and laugh at me, LOL. Actually, I hope I AM wrong! It would be an interesting unit.
I'll be a balloon-popper and guess that the Cabrio will be a separate washer and dryer, a twin to the Kenmore Oasis. If I'm wrong, you can all point and laugh at me, LOL. Actually, I hope I AM wrong! It would be an interesting unit.
My F&P topload dryer is 6.2 cu ft. It's deep, but certainly manageable. But I'm wondering if the term "combo" is being misused in this case ...
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It does emphasize on "combination washer-dryer" though, so I wouldn't think it would be a separate unit. But then it could be a stacked set, where the term "Combo" is used the most...
The Cabrio is the cousin to the Oasis. The 4.5 cyu. ft. is the Oasis drum measurement.
I read the text again. The term "combo" in the traditional sense apparently is being misued. A separate washer and dryer is mentioned (underlining is mine):
<blockquote>...and is said to significantly reduce dry time through a combination of the washer’s ultra-fast spin speed and the dryer’s AccelerCare(TM) system.</blockquote>
<blockquote>...and is said to significantly reduce dry time through a combination of the washer’s ultra-fast spin speed and the dryer’s AccelerCare(TM) system.</blockquote>
Whirlpool does not mean "dryer" as in heated clothes dryer, but as in spin dryer. Someone posted a link in another section to an Appliance Magazine PR release on upcoming Whirlpool appliances. The Cabrio will have a very high final rpm spin speed, thus removing more moisture than most if not all top loaders currently on the American market. Think along the lines of a F&P or vintage Frigidare with their 1140 rpm final spin speeds and you are on the right track.
Whirlpool is selling the Cabrio on the fact that it will not only launder a huge amount of laundry at once, but will spin that laundry out so dry it will require less time in the dryer, if any time at all.
Think what we are seeing here is American appliance makers trying to design something unique to the American market; washing machines that hold allot of laundry, are top loading (which most Americans still vastly prefer), are gentle on clothing (no central beater) and have fast final spin speeds to remove more water/detergent residue and speed drying times.
Fast final spins will help reduce energy use since laundry will take less time in the dryer, this will help offset the amount of energy required for heating water (warm or hot water), again building a washer more suited to the way Americans prefer doing laundry.
Launderess
Whirlpool is selling the Cabrio on the fact that it will not only launder a huge amount of laundry at once, but will spin that laundry out so dry it will require less time in the dryer, if any time at all.
Think what we are seeing here is American appliance makers trying to design something unique to the American market; washing machines that hold allot of laundry, are top loading (which most Americans still vastly prefer), are gentle on clothing (no central beater) and have fast final spin speeds to remove more water/detergent residue and speed drying times.
Fast final spins will help reduce energy use since laundry will take less time in the dryer, this will help offset the amount of energy required for heating water (warm or hot water), again building a washer more suited to the way Americans prefer doing laundry.
Launderess
Somewhere around here, someone has a copy of a WP patent on a top-loading H-axis design. Maybe they are using that patent and actually making a new machine like this.
Maybe the Cabrio is a suped-up KM Oasis?
Maybe the Cabrio is a suped-up KM Oasis?
Someone posted a link to a video of the Cabrio on THS. It's better looking than the Oasis IMHO. The window is clear! That is at least an advantage over the Oasis.
I was the one with the WP patent.
What exactly IS a WP AccelerCare (tm)dryer system, anyway?
It's fast but gentle. Probably uses a lower temperature because it doesn't need high heat if the load is extracted properly at high speed in the companion washer.
Another oversized impeller washer...
Another oversized impeller washer...
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oasis vs cabrio
I think the oasis has a "tinted" window and the cabrio has a clear window. This seems to be a difference in the HE's vs. the duet's. I don't know why anyone would want a tinted window, I want to see what's going on in there--a big reason why I wouldn't have bought the former Neptune's even if someone said they were the greatest in the world!
I've been a washer watcher since I was 2 years old as my Mom had a 1956 GE Combination Washer/Dryer.
I'm sure that the term "combo" in describing the new cabrio and oasis means that you have to buy the "pair" to get the combo thing. Tricky and incorrect wording IMO.
Courtney
I think the oasis has a "tinted" window and the cabrio has a clear window. This seems to be a difference in the HE's vs. the duet's. I don't know why anyone would want a tinted window, I want to see what's going on in there--a big reason why I wouldn't have bought the former Neptune's even if someone said they were the greatest in the world!
I've been a washer watcher since I was 2 years old as my Mom had a 1956 GE Combination Washer/Dryer.
I'm sure that the term "combo" in describing the new cabrio and oasis means that you have to buy the "pair" to get the combo thing. Tricky and incorrect wording IMO.
Courtney
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There it is!
The patent Louis have posted refers only about a PULLEY SYSTEM FOR AUTOMATIC WASHERS...(that's what I honestly have read) the same system that any tumbling (American FL) washer uses. In this case it shows in the draw at the bottom a drum with the TL opening system...like any TL European washers!
An appliance like that can be a washer, and can be a dryer either (as F&P TL dryers), why couldn't it be a combo?!?!?
I have said several times that that's the common system of any European TL washer (H-axis). In France it's the most prefered (they like TL, but want tumbling system too), and as French can't renounce to the "essorage", they have
- TL H-axis washers;
- TL H-axis dryers;
- TL H-axis combo!
I'm waiting to know the truth about that machine, but in the mean time I say you all that if it were really a combo washer dryer like a TL h-axis... with such capacity... well it would be a really GREAT MACHINE... THE BEST EVERYONE HAS INVENTED, PRODUCED, PURCHASED!
Good Bye
Diomede
The patent Louis have posted refers only about a PULLEY SYSTEM FOR AUTOMATIC WASHERS...(that's what I honestly have read) the same system that any tumbling (American FL) washer uses. In this case it shows in the draw at the bottom a drum with the TL opening system...like any TL European washers!
An appliance like that can be a washer, and can be a dryer either (as F&P TL dryers), why couldn't it be a combo?!?!?
I have said several times that that's the common system of any European TL washer (H-axis). In France it's the most prefered (they like TL, but want tumbling system too), and as French can't renounce to the "essorage", they have
- TL H-axis washers;
- TL H-axis dryers;
- TL H-axis combo!
I'm waiting to know the truth about that machine, but in the mean time I say you all that if it were really a combo washer dryer like a TL h-axis... with such capacity... well it would be a really GREAT MACHINE... THE BEST EVERYONE HAS INVENTED, PRODUCED, PURCHASED!
Good Bye
Diomede
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Here you are! IT'S TRUE!
Do you see I was saying the truth?!?!? Here you are how could it be the NEW AMERICAN WHIRLPOOL TL COMBO WASHER/DRYER!
There are the first problem! You can see that the drying load it's alwasy about a HALF washing load! But we're looking forward to see the new appliance how it'll work!
Here the first brand has produced combo (lavasciuga) was Candy... with Alisè in 1986: Now "the pioneers of that tecnology" in Candy have arrived to produce a combo called 5+5, that allow you to wash 5 kilos and dry 5 kilos in ONE CILCE! You don't need to share the load spun, to do two separately half drying cicle (like was happneing before, with any combo which dried only half washing load)
I LOVE IT! FL efficiency with TL confort...nothing better...
BYE
Diomede
Do you see I was saying the truth?!?!? Here you are how could it be the NEW AMERICAN WHIRLPOOL TL COMBO WASHER/DRYER!
There are the first problem! You can see that the drying load it's alwasy about a HALF washing load! But we're looking forward to see the new appliance how it'll work!
Here the first brand has produced combo (lavasciuga) was Candy... with Alisè in 1986: Now "the pioneers of that tecnology" in Candy have arrived to produce a combo called 5+5, that allow you to wash 5 kilos and dry 5 kilos in ONE CILCE! You don't need to share the load spun, to do two separately half drying cicle (like was happneing before, with any combo which dried only half washing load)
I LOVE IT! FL efficiency with TL confort...nothing better...
BYE
Diomede
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Eh... magari!
I read the article again... I'm afraid to have found that probabily they will be two separately appliances... as DADoES just notified...a sort of Kenmore Oasis set twin!
It would be too much beautiful to see in the USA a machine like that in the patent above... but let's not disperate
Everything might happen...
Bye!
I read the article again... I'm afraid to have found that probabily they will be two separately appliances... as DADoES just notified...a sort of Kenmore Oasis set twin!
It would be too much beautiful to see in the USA a machine like that in the patent above... but let's not disperate
Everything might happen...Bye!
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