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Spelling error on my part. I made a mistake.- Technically it is spelled steel per officially recognized definition.

At the same time the Webmaster both sympathizes and forgives such errors. Nobody is perfect in this regard. Text color and size was changed by me as an emphasis.



That was nice and comforting of him to acknowledge and make allowance in forgiveness. People do well if they can.

Anyway-

The Whirlpool Power Clean Filter Module dishwasher would come in 3 flavors:


BOL and mid grade MOL:

Plastic Tub

High end MOL:

Stainless steel.

TOL:

White speckled porcelain on steal tub built like a 70s Hobart Kitchen Aid. Hydrosweep wash arm with dedicated upper wash arm and power shower.
I'd like to see it happening, but we never will.
 
Absolutely.

Even better, In a world where everyone was like me the Whirlpool Power Clean Filter Module would be found from the absolute BOL models that don't even have a closing detergent dispenser to the absolute TOL lighted stainless steal LCD touch panel display multi detergent dispenser optical sensor models.
And it would have a rinse aid dispenser that doesn't leak and produces the perfect amount when dispensing. Too many consumers are gullible to believe that high tech appliances are better when they're not.
 
Spelling error on my part. I made a mistake.- Technically it is spelled steel per officially recognized definition.
I'm the type that understands that humans are not perfect.
And human brains naturally are of different intelligent levels.
They sometimes make mistakes in their lives, and spelling/typing is one of them.
Most people can see through a typing or grammer error and figure out what the person is talking about.
And life goes on.

With that said, an occasional humorous "picking on" by someone over a silly typing mistake is a typical human trait, because as I said, no one's perfect.
It sometimes represents a playful fondness towards another person.
However, it also can be annoying, and sparking a defensive posture in the victim particularly if the "picker" has a reputation for being one of those "schoolyard bully types".
Being an online "grammer nazi" repeatedly is also annoying, and shows that the person has self-issues with others.

Now let's all move on and perhaps take a good dump, it'll make a person feel better. 😄
 
I'm the type that understands that humans are not perfect.
And human brains naturally are of different intelligent levels.
They sometimes make mistakes in their lives, and spelling/typing is one of them.
Most people can see through a typing or grammer error and figure out what the person is talking about.
And life goes on.

With that said, an occasional humorous "picking on" by someone over a silly typing mistake is a typical human trait, because as I said, no one's perfect.
It sometimes represents a playful fondness towards another person.
However, it also can be annoying, and sparking a defensive posture in the victim particularly if the "picker" has a reputation for being one of those "schoolyard bully types".
Being an online "grammer nazi" repeatedly is also annoying, and shows that the person has self-issues with others.

Now let's all move on and perhaps take a good dump, it'll make a person feel better. 😄
I get what you are saying.
 
These snowflakes amaze me. I remember old Hotpoints where you could barely have a conversation in the kitchen when it was running, but you walked away to talk, The noise was better than washing dishes by hand, but spoiled youngsters don't consider that. They don't want to wash dishes or hear a machine operating. Eff 'em.
 
And despite the amount of curation, moderation and deleting of comments that people do not agree happening in nearly every corner of the internet there are still complaints of premature failures.
So cyincal....
Here's more evidence that I don't think sites like Abt remove negative reviews.
It's in their best interest to only sell the best appliances. They sell and fix their own stuff, which means if they sell poor performing appliances, it's more money lost for them in service and returns.
Here's some of the lowest rated dishwashers on their site, look, they're still up and not deleted.

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These snowflakes amaze me. I remember old Hotpoints where you could barely have a conversation in the kitchen when it was running, but you walked away to talk, The noise was better than washing dishes by hand, but spoiled youngsters don't consider that. They don't want to wash dishes or hear a machine operating. Eff 'em.
I’ve never heard another mature person refer to another as a snowflake. And over people preferring quiet dishwashers…. Wow. This has to be the funniest thing I’ve seen today.
 
WDTS8024SZ / WDTA8024SZ

The most important part of that is now the top end WP branded model has a notably better quality pump, vs the worse one they’d used prior in the WDT970SAKZ (and continue to use in the new 224 KitchenAid and WDT750SAKZ).
Oh nice, there it is. The new model with yellow accents. Looks nice.
Looks like a good unit, coming close to the upper level Maytag or low level KitchenAid model.
You can see the big motor in rear view.

Surprising Key Features:
- 90 minute Normal Wash cycle, a full hour less than the old model. (this should make some ppl here super duper happy, but probably not)
- Water repellent treatment on the silverware basket
- door-pop-open drying


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For the visually impaired, the best I could do is find the parts list on Sears.

https://www.searspartsdirect.com/model/4mym9llm0o-001198/whirlpool-wdts8024sz0-dishwasher-parts
 
Oh nice, there it is. The new model with yellow accents. Looks nice.
Looks like a good unit, coming close to the upper level Maytag or low level KitchenAid model.
You can see the big motor in rear view.

Surprising Key Features:
- 90 minute Normal Wash cycle, a full hour less than the old model. (this should make some ppl here super duper happy, but probably not)
- Water repellent treatment on the silverware basket
- door-pop-open drying

https://www.searspartsdirect.com/model/4mym9llm0o-001198/whirlpool-wdts8024sz0-dishwasher-parts
I was disappointed by the silverware basket, after having seen the 3-part one in the prior models I thought it was better than these single-piece ones. Ultimately I miss the silverware in the door/front-rack-mounted basket, as it gave you so much room without needing a third rack.

Re the 90 minute wash time, interestingly that is a WP specific feature. They Maytag gets a longer normal cycle IIRC. And I’m concerned it will have reduced performance since it gives the detergent less time to work, unless they do this by shortening the prewash and dry cycles? Perhaps that, plus the self cleaning filter, and the auto-open drying, combines to make up for the shortened time? I’m curious to see the consumer reviews come in.
 
These snowflakes amaze me. I remember old Hotpoints where you could barely have a conversation in the kitchen when it was running, but you walked away to talk, The noise was better than washing dishes by hand, but spoiled youngsters don't consider that. They don't want to wash dishes or hear a machine operating. Eff 'em.
I'd rather hear a running pump and water moving around.
 
Oh nice, there it is. The new model with yellow accents. Looks nice.
Looks like a good unit, coming close to the upper level Maytag or low level KitchenAid model.
You can see the big motor in rear view.

Surprising Key Features:
- 90 minute Normal Wash cycle, a full hour less than the old model. (this should make some ppl here super duper happy, but probably not)
- Water repellent treatment on the silverware basket
- door-pop-open drying


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For the visually impaired, the best I could do is find the parts list on Sears.

https://www.searspartsdirect.com/model/4mym9llm0o-001198/whirlpool-wdts8024sz0-dishwasher-parts
Now that's what I'm looking for!
 
I was disappointed by the silverware basket, after having seen the 3-part one in the prior models I thought it was better than these single-piece ones. Ultimately I miss the silverware in the door/front-rack-mounted basket, as it gave you so much room without needing a third rack.

Re the 90 minute wash time, interestingly that is a WP specific feature. They Maytag gets a longer normal cycle IIRC. And I’m concerned it will have reduced performance since it gives the detergent less time to work, unless they do this by shortening the prewash and dry cycles? Perhaps that, plus the self cleaning filter, and the auto-open drying, combines to make up for the shortened time? I’m curious to see the consumer reviews come in.
I'm also curious to see what it looks like in action.
 
I was disappointed by the silverware basket, after having seen the 3-part one in the prior models I thought it was better than these single-piece ones. Ultimately I miss the silverware in the door/front-rack-mounted basket, as it gave you so much room without needing a third rack.

Re the 90 minute wash time, interestingly that is a WP specific feature. They Maytag gets a longer normal cycle IIRC. And I’m concerned it will have reduced performance since it gives the detergent less time to work, unless they do this by shortening the prewash and dry cycles? Perhaps that, plus the self cleaning filter, and the auto-open drying, combines to make up for the shortened time? I’m curious to see the consumer reviews come in.
That's what I was kinda thinking too, Michael.
I am guessing they re-calibrated the Normal cycle to run much shorter when light/no soil is sensed. And if the load is dirtier, it switches to a longer Normal wash or adds a pre-wash.
Since this WP is brand new, I wonder if the new cycle programming with filter down to the Maytag and KitchenAid line as they update them.
 
So cyincal....
Here's more evidence that I don't think sites like Abt remove negative reviews.
It's in their best interest to only sell the best appliances. They sell and fix their own stuff, which means if they sell poor performing appliances, it's more money lost for them in service and returns.
Here's some of the lowest rated dishwashers on their site, look, they're still up and not deleted.



Yes, and look at those numbers. 1, 8, 2, 2. You don't delete all negative reviews otherwise it becomes too suspicious. Instead you create the perception of an organic platform. You delete the majority of well written negative reviews, the majority of the poorly written positive reviews, while leaving the bulk of very poorly written negative reviews balanced against a large ratio of well written positive reviews.

Such that when a person reads a site they walk away with the impression that the overwhelming majority of smart, balanced, lucid, educated people have nice things to say about the product where as the small percentage of exceptionally entitled, uneducated, unreasonable people are leaving the small majority of the negative reviews with a very, very small handful of well written negative reviews left in the mix to create the perception of a free and open platform. 'How can they be deleting reviews that are too negative then there are 5 scathing reviews out of the 250 positive review?' 'If they were deleting negative reviews like you claim there wouldn't be 5 super critical negative reviews out of the 500 positive reviews.'


There is also the fact that outsiders can add or remove reviews in just about any anything from a media platform. Anyone or any group can be bribed to write glowing positive reviews. And finally, contrary to what many people think when you hit "report" or "flag" on an internet post it typically isn't seen by a human. Instead the comment is marked by the software. If a comment is marked enough times (from being flagged) it is atomically shadowed or deleted. The people doing the flagging know that if a comment is reported enough times it will disappear.


It is not just about selling poorly performing or well performing machines, it is also about creating a perception around them. Think about how many mediocre, bland, empty, or unhealthy products and franchises have rocketed to superstardom via advertising that would not have otherwise. I don't have to explain it.
 
Yes, and look at those numbers. 1, 8, 2, 2. You don't delete all negative reviews otherwise it becomes too suspicious. Instead you create the perception of an organic platform. You delete the majority of well written negative reviews, the majority of the poorly written positive reviews, while leaving the bulk of very poorly written negative reviews balanced against a large ratio of well written positive reviews.

Such that when a person reads a site they walk away with the impression that the overwhelming majority of smart, balanced, lucid, educated people have nice things to say about the product where as the small percentage of exceptionally entitled, uneducated, unreasonable people are leaving the small majority of the negative reviews with a very, very small handful of well written negative reviews left in the mix to create the perception of a free and open platform. 'How can they be deleting reviews that are too negative then there are 5 scathing reviews out of the 250 positive review?' 'If they were deleting negative reviews like you claim there wouldn't be 5 super critical negative reviews out of the 500 positive reviews.'


There is also the fact that outsiders can add or remove reviews in just about any anything from a media platform. Anyone or any group can be bribed to write glowing positive reviews. And finally, contrary to what many people think when you hit "report" or "flag" on an internet post it typically isn't seen by a human. Instead the comment is marked by the software. If a comment is marked enough times (from being flagged) it is atomically shadowed or deleted. The people doing the flagging know that if a comment is reported enough times it will disappear.


It is not just about selling poorly performing or well performing machines, it is also about creating a perception around them. Think about how many mediocre, bland, empty, or unhealthy products and franchises have rocketed to superstardom via advertising that would not have otherwise. I don't have to explain it.
www.betterhelp.com
 
Yes, and look at those numbers. 1, 8, 2, 2. You don't delete all negative reviews otherwise it becomes too suspicious. Instead you create the perception of an organic platform. You delete the majority of well written negative reviews, the majority of the poorly written positive reviews, while leaving the bulk of very poorly written negative reviews balanced against a large ratio of well written positive reviews.

Such that when a person reads a site they walk away with the impression that the overwhelming majority of smart, balanced, lucid, educated people have nice things to say about the product where as the small percentage of exceptionally entitled, uneducated, unreasonable people are leaving the small majority of the negative reviews with a very, very small handful of well written negative reviews left in the mix to create the perception of a free and open platform. 'How can they be deleting reviews that are too negative then there are 5 scathing reviews out of the 250 positive review?' 'If they were deleting negative reviews like you claim there wouldn't be 5 super critical negative reviews out of the 500 positive reviews.'


There is also the fact that outsiders can add or remove reviews in just about any anything from a media platform. Anyone or any group can be bribed to write glowing positive reviews. And finally, contrary to what many people think when you hit "report" or "flag" on an internet post it typically isn't seen by a human. Instead the comment is marked by the software. If a comment is marked enough times (from being flagged) it is atomically shadowed or deleted. The people doing the flagging know that if a comment is reported enough times it will disappear.


It is not just about selling poorly performing or well performing machines, it is also about creating a perception around them. Think about how many mediocre, bland, empty, or unhealthy products and franchises have rocketed to superstardom via advertising that would not have otherwise. I don't have to explain it.
Seriously? This is paranoia.
 
This is the problem with the internet.
All the village oddities find each other and scream to everyone else that "they're the problem.
And only the "truth" can be found through "them."
What a bunch of messiah complexes.

I move for @Alan to close the thread.
 
This is the problem with the internet.
All the village oddities find each other and scream to everyone else that "they're the problem.
And only the "truth" can be found through "them."
What a bunch of messiah complexes.

I move for @Alan to close the thread.

Well, same can be sad the other way around.

If what we are saying is so wrong, why do you have such a need to silence us?

In the end people are going to have views, experiences and opinions that differ from yours. That is life, including how to handle it in mature way.
 
It’s a lost cause.
This once great site has been taken over by lunatics.
It’s probably a bad idea to be here.
This used to be a once great site with members full of first hand knowledge and industry and collector know-how.
Many have sadly departed or left the site for obvious reasons.
It’s now a collection of conspiracy theories and baseless, made up opinions that you guys try to pass off as factual information on machines.

I feel bad for anyone online browsing here looking for actual appliance information, after 2020.
Best to keep to the archives, people.

It’s been fun for a while. Stay sane out there with all the crazies.
 
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