WHY IN GODS NAME....

[aaronfitzy]

....does my new Whirlpool Duet F/L use hot and cold water when I put the temp selector on just cold? I used the Delicate cycle for the very first time today, and you can either use Cold or Warm for the wash cycle and a spin speed of Low ONLY. What I noticed was how it was letting in both hot and cold water....is there such a thing as too cold!? On a better note, the washer was VERY, (and I stress that word), delicate to the clothing and came out as clean as a new garment. Just curious to why it uses hot and cold water when I have it set to just "Cold".

Aaron

 

[pulsator]

The cold water coming in needs to be warm enough to dissolve the detergent properly. The machine probably decided that your cold water is too cold and so it added some hot water to raise the cold temp to an acceptable level.

 

[combo52]

COLD WATER WASHING

Yes there is such a thing as too cold. Anything lower than 70F is too cold to wash anything in. In fact in a low water use machine the temp switch should be left on HOT. This is one of several steps to good cleaning in a low water use washer the other is to always use a cold water rinse, these steps will give much better results and lessen the chance of mold problems.

 

[rp2813]

My Affinity will do the same thing. On the panel all but one temp selection are within brackets and designated as "auto temp." The only one that the machine won't interfere with is the "cold" setting that doesn't fall within the "auto temp" brackets. It also has a "cold" setting within the brackets, which means it will add some hot if it thinks the water is too cold. Even when set to "hot" the machine will throw in some cold water if the temperature of the water exceeds what it thinks is hot enough--a ridiculous waste of water heating energy.

 

[aaronfitzy]

Thanks guys...

...That's kinda of what I was thinking with the dissolving of the detergent, makes sense to me. And our tap water is ice cold after about 10 seconds of running through the lines. Most washes I use the Warm setting, and our clothes come out great (including whites w/o bleach) and yet to have ANY mold or mildew problems even though the washer is in the basement.

Aaron

 

[dnastrau]

Cold water rinse - what does that do?

I understand why the hot wash will help keep the machine cleaner, but what does the cold rinse do? Does that keep the fabric softener from sticking to the metal parts inside? Just a wild guess...

 

[combo52]

COLD WATER RINSE

The cold water cools the machine and clothes load which keeps any remaining bacteria from growing while the clothes wait to go into the dryer. Also the cold water reduces the corrosion on the washer parts like the aluminum spider, it also saves energy with out affecting cleaning performance.

 

[supremewhirlpol]

I hate it when machines like THOSE CHOOSE what the water temp should be. Seems to me that the water ends up not hot enough. I never wash my whites in machines that have that feature.

 

[dnastrau]

Cold rinse

Thanks for the information on cold rinses John.

 

[alr2903]

The Kenmore Top load machines run hot, cold, hot, over and over to create warm, in the auto temp machine. If you are washing something that really cannot take hot water, you would do well to let it fill first, or at least not put the article right in the "fill area". alr2903

 

[toggleswitch]

Quote: Even when set to "hot" the machine will throw in some cold water if the temperature of the water exceeds what it thinks is hot enough--a ridiculous waste of water heating energy.

ok so what is the logic here?

How is this a waste of water heating energy? The bottom line is less hot water was used.

Are you saying the water is too cool to be effective, so why not just use warm cool or cold instead?

 

[rp2813]

Steve, my take on things is this:

PG&E charges me for the gas used to heat the water. Then the #@%&* Affinity douses it with cold water because it thinks it's too hot. I paid for hot water and the Affinity squanders it. I'll be damned if I'm going to have a machine as lame as the Affinity dictating what my water heater setting should be.

 

[supremewhirlpol]

rp2813:
I have to agree with you on that. Such a machine should not be able to ruin perfectly good hot water, especially if the machine's version of 'hot' water is at most luke-warm. I've never used the affinity, but I was not very impressed at all with the frigemore. Who on earth attaches a reed switch to the soap drawer, which disables functionality to the machine? From what I have seen the Affinity does not use much water, that's reason enough for me to stay away. Does the Affinity have the same reed switch on the soap drawer?

 

[tsteves5]

Is it just me, or are these machines getting WAY to complex? It's not going to be long before our washers require internet connections so they can periodically download new firmware and send statistics of our laundering habits back to the manufacturers. I wonder if there will McAfee Anti-Virus for Whirlpool.

 

[autowasherfreak]

"It's not going to be long before our washers requir

That's a good one Toby, and I agree with you. My Frigidaire Gallery frontloader uses all hot water when set at hot. Warm and cold have auto temp control. I usually wash my white in my Maytag 806 so I can turn it off and let things soak when needed.

 

[rp2813]

I'll have to check my Affinity for filling without the drawer. I know it will still fill with the drawer pulled out to the stop.

 

[toggleswitch]

There has got to be a way to get the "auto temperature control" out of the circuit.

Perhaps a simple *COUGH* toggle switch?

 

[irishwashguy]

As a matter of fact

The New Mieles are hooked to the internet. It is for your washer. dryer,ect to let you know if it is having a service issue, it patches into your house wifi to e-mail you and Miele and there you have it, It can wash the whites, and surf the web, kind of.............

 

[aaronfitzy]

Whirlpool also...

...has a top of the line set that has a USB drive for updates and whatnot, not sure about the internet connectivity though.