Zanussi Vs Samsung - The Duvet Wash

[samsungfl]

Hi guys, just thought i'd post a thread about these two washers, The Zanussi Zwf1431 (Current) and the Samsung B145s. Ive throughly used both of these washers and gotten to know there strengths and weaknesses.
ive washed the same duvet in both washers. And thought it'd make an intrestin topic to compare how they handle them. Anyway here goes LOL.

 

[samsungfl]

Zanussi washing duvet

(Appologies for the size of the images, they dont usually blow up to double size like that!) lol

 

[samsungfl]

Vid of samsung washing duvet

 

[samsungfl]

Zanussi washing the duvet

 

[robm]

Results

Hi Richard

Thanks for the vids. What do you think washes better? Are they both sturdy on spin?

Rob

 

[washboy2005]

Hope You Don't mind Richard ;-)

I think the zanussi is more sturdy overall, it tumbles more agressively and spins without fail. On the otherhand the suspension on the samsung was far too springy and it 99.999999% of the time had problems spinning, from what Richard told me it had a stupidly senisitve OOB sensor, therefore a 30 min quickwash could easily become a 1hour wash due to spin problems.
I hope this helped, sorry for the poor spelling.

P.S Love your Zanni Richard :-D

Take Care Dan

 

[samsungfl]

Thanx for that Dan!

Yeah i agree with you there, the Samsung was increibly springy and moved to the slightest touch lol And as Dan correctly said (thanx it would hardly ever manage to spin., ill have to dig the video out where it refuses to spin one Dry T-shirt.

Overall i think the Zanussi peformed better with the duvet as it seemedtumble it more effectivly and move it around the drum, rather than going around in a huge bll (as the Samsung did) anyway thats just my view lol. More comments welcome!!!

Richard

 

[sadose]

A duvet day...

Ok maybe I’m being biased here… being a proud Zanussi owner and all that…hehe. But I think on analysis that the Zanussi does a superior job of washing that duvet compared to the techno looking Samsung. What with the more thorough tumbling action which makes the one article spread over the area of the drum quite nicely. Cool vids though Richard… Thanks for posting.

 

[seamusuk]

On the subject of Duvets....

A few of a foamy splashy Duvet wash in the Insight

 

[seamusuk]

Another...

It was only 90ml odd of Ariel Essential concentrated powder honest!!!

 

[seamusuk]

One more....

Its a 60deg Cottons btw

 

[lavamat_jon]

I've found that the Jetsystems were quite bad for sudsing when washing duvets... when I used to wash duvets in the AEG 86741 it would often overfoam even if you used a small amount of powder! That jet really does help with bulky items though - plus the constant tumbling.

BTW, the Delicates 60*C cycle is great for duvets on the Miele... high level but high temperature wash! A rare feature nowadays.

Mum's has a "Pillows" cycle - 40/50/60*C - and that spins before it fills, apparently it's to take all the air out of duvets. Does anybody know if the Duvet cycle on John Lewis machines is similar?

Jon

 

[sadose]

I can’t say that I have noticed the Jetsystem on my Zanussi contributing to any excess foaming with duvets or any other type of fabric or article. I find in certain circumstances that the flat spray of the Jetsystem on the model I have contributes to good foam suppression especially on high temperature washes.

Jon, furthermore, many modern duvets are made from very resilient materials, purely a matter of opinion here but in such circumstances I would feel that low level fill on the wash phase for a duvet would contribute to better agitation due to high level fill washes having a cushioning effect. However this would depend of course on the soil levels of the individual duvet as to the level of wash intensity required.

An acquaintance has just renewed her late 80’s Zanussi with a John Lewis own brand machine, the duvet cycle on that machine in terms of water level fill is somewhere in between the cottons and the delicates fill level, wash agitation is the same of that on the cottons cycle.

Regards to all

Saj

 

[logixx]

"Does anybody know if the Duvet cycle on John Lewis machines is similar?"

No, it just fills through the main wash compartment and begins to tumble.

Duvet Cycle
40°C
700 rpm
82 minutes
0.6 kWh
80 liters

Both the "Stuffed Animals - ..." and the "Pillow - ..." vids (on page 2 of my Washing Machines Playlist) show the Duvet cycle.

Alex

http://youtube.com/view_play_list?p=CB7E6ADDE5435292

 

[lavamat_jon]

Logixx - interesting videos! I didn't realise your privileg had a similar cycle... I notice it has no Jetsystem though?

Saj - only speaking from experience with the AEG (which had a stronger jet than most Zanussi's), but the amount of suds it used to whip up was crazy... you would have hardly any suds until the jet came on. I can't really remember how mum's was, so I'll take your word for it about the Zanussi jet... after all, the jet on the Zanussi is more of a fine spray than an actual jet of water. Anyway - have attached a pic of what the suds levels tend to be like after a 95*C wash with the jetsystem on the recently retired (or holidaying shall we say) AEG - bear in mind that is my usual dose of powder (hell knows which one I used when I took the picture), which doesn't usually give me problems in other machines.

Cottons cycles work fine on duvets too - but I prefer the 60*C delicates cycle simply cos the duvets are bulky and that they truly get saturated with teh deep level. With a bulky item there isn't really that much of a cushioning effect, if anythign more of a "flushing" effect which I imagine would clean equally as good. Have always had good results whichever cycle I've used anyway - but then duvet's don't really get dirty. Unless you're my sister, then you sleep in sheets that were last washed in June and have no pillow or duvet covers... but I will leave that pleasant tidbit at that .

Jon

 

[logixx]

Well, our previous privileg, which was actually made by AEG in Nürnberg, had the Jetsystem- but this new machine (made by uhm... Merloni?) dosen't have one.

Alex

 

[lavamat_jon]

Alex - your Privileg is an Electrolux

 

[sadose]

Yes definitly an E'Lux!!! The distribution before spin is identical to that of mine and Richards, and the trusty light on the door...classic E'Lux style!

 

[logixx]

Aha! Well, you never know these days

Thanks

 

[samsungfl]

Machine In Full

Just thought I'd post this as you dont see the machine in full in the vid, so here it is

(appologies in advance if it comes out too big lol)

Richard

 

[sadose]

Loving that full shot!!!!

Richard....

The shot of your Zanussi there is fantastic...the silver makes it look so...."designer"

Mine may have the LCD display but looks such a poor relation in comparison! Pic below!

 

[sadose]

Zanussi's and duvets..and stuff!

Hi guys

Well...last week was Richard's turn to wash a duvet in his sexy looking Silver Zanussi. Prompted the idea then this weekend to run through a duvet in my ever so faithful Zanussi....The ugly sister if you like!!!!

 

[askomiele]

I've overlooked some video's and it seems to me that the zanussi is spinning counterclockwise while mostly a frontloader spins clockwise or is this out of the question?

 

[sadose]

The direction in which a machine spins varies from make to make, as a general rule all Electrolux made machines spin counterclockwise as do all Bosch/Siemens etc. Traditionally Hotpoints, Hoovers and Miele's have always spun in a clockwise direction. Merloni made machines used to spin in an anticlockwise fashion however I believe this has recently changed.

Saj

 

[samsungfl]

Looking Good...

Hey Saj, just watched your video of the Duvet Wash, your machine handles it well, giving some really good action with such a large item, which I think is great! One thing ive got to say though, Why cant mine have the 7kg Drum!!! lol anyway im just being greedy lol Thanx for posting!!!!

Richard

 

[sadose]

Greed indeed!!!!

While you may lack the slightly (and I mean very slightly) larger drum Richard...remember you do have the funky modern silver colour which always looks great. And after all I do have the top of the range model! (Head begins to not fit through door as escapes from slapped face!)

 

[lavamat_jon]

Richard - Saj is right, the 7 kilo drum on my Zanussi wasn't really any bigger than the 6 kilo one on the AEG... if anythign was slightly different and the only real difference was the paddles - the 7 kilo drum has the paddles that run from front to back with more or less no gaps, whereas my AEG has about 3cm or so between the paddle and the front/back of the drum.

Spin directions - AEG's and Bosch machines used to be clockwise too until about 2000 or so - AEG machines went anti clockwise when they switched to the Elux design tubs, Bosch machines went anti clockwise with the Maxx series.

Jon

 

[samsungfl]

Not To Be Rude....

... But when you first got that washer, you said that it was huge and couldnt belive how much you could fit into it, not being rude or anythin so i dont want u to take offence but I think your a bit contradictive when it comes to washers.

Richard

 

[lavamat_jon]

Yeah - it was a large capacity... larger than the 6kg but really not that significant a difference in the scheme of things. Sorta like the difference between 5 and 6kg, if you know what I mean...

Jon

 

[sadose]

Personally I see the advantage of the 7kg drum on mine when it comes to standard loads but when it coms to single large items in my opinion the situation is indifferent.

Saj