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Loving that full shot!!!!

Richard....

The shot of your Zanussi there is fantastic...the silver makes it look so...."designer"

Mine may have the LCD display but looks such a poor relation in comparison! Pic below!

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Zanussi's and duvets..and stuff!

Hi guys

Well...last week was Richard's turn to wash a duvet in his sexy looking Silver Zanussi. Prompted the idea then this weekend to run through a duvet in my ever so faithful Zanussi....The ugly sister if you like!!!!

 
I've overlooked some video's and it seems to me that the zanussi is spinning counterclockwise while mostly a frontloader spins clockwise or is this out of the question?
 
The direction in which a machine spins varies from make to make, as a general rule all Electrolux made machines spin counterclockwise as do all Bosch/Siemens etc. Traditionally Hotpoints, Hoovers and Miele's have always spun in a clockwise direction. Merloni made machines used to spin in an anticlockwise fashion however I believe this has recently changed.

Saj
 
Looking Good...

Hey Saj, just watched your video of the Duvet Wash, your machine handles it well, giving some really good action with such a large item, which I think is great! One thing ive got to say though, Why cant mine have the 7kg Drum!!! lol anyway im just being greedy lol Thanx for posting!!!!:D

Richard
 
Greed indeed!!!!

While you may lack the slightly (and I mean very slightly) larger drum Richard...remember you do have the funky modern silver colour which always looks great. And after all I do have the top of the range model! (Head begins to not fit through door as escapes from slapped face!)
 
Richard - Saj is right, the 7 kilo drum on my Zanussi wasn't really any bigger than the 6 kilo one on the AEG... if anythign was slightly different and the only real difference was the paddles - the 7 kilo drum has the paddles that run from front to back with more or less no gaps, whereas my AEG has about 3cm or so between the paddle and the front/back of the drum.

Spin directions - AEG's and Bosch machines used to be clockwise too until about 2000 or so - AEG machines went anti clockwise when they switched to the Elux design tubs, Bosch machines went anti clockwise with the Maxx series.

Jon
 
Not To Be Rude....

... But when you first got that washer, you said that it was huge and couldnt belive how much you could fit into it, not being rude or anythin so i dont want u to take offence but I think your a bit contradictive when it comes to washers.

Richard
 
Yeah - it was a large capacity... larger than the 6kg but really not that significant a difference in the scheme of things. Sorta like the difference between 5 and 6kg, if you know what I mean...

Jon
 
Personally I see the advantage of the 7kg drum on mine when it comes to standard loads but when it coms to single large items in my opinion the situation is indifferent.

Saj
 
I have to say the paddles were great on the 7 kilo drum, not sure if it was me but the paddles seemed deeper too. They showered a lot more water down on the load too than the 6kilo AEG - but then I believe the 7 kilo paddles have more holes in the paddles.

Though - correct me if I'm wrong Saj - aren't some of the holes on the 7kg paddles "duff" - i.e. Hotpoint WMA back of drum style?

Jon
 
Jon indeed you have a point in the fact that the paddles are for want of a better phrase "partially blanked" but on my example at least it's no big deal due to the widespread and thorough action of the jetsystem.
 
In fairness to Jon, it is quite difficult at times to compare drum capacities, especially across different manufacturers and even across one company’s products – Electrolux, for example.

A 6kg drum from, say, Electrolux (Zanussi, AEG and Electrolux brands, etc.) cannot necessarily be compared with, say, one from Miele. The reason for this is that the capacity in terms of weight, expressed here in kilograms of course, ignores the other measurement for capacity – volume. Volume in these cases is measured in litres, and I know that the two tumble dryers I was recently looking at – a Miele and a Zanussi – both has 6kg drums. However, this did not tell the whole story – the Miele had a drum with a larger volume!

The problem with comparing drum capacities is that not all drums are created equal. The Hotpoint WD860 washer dryer we had until recently suggested it had a 6kg wash load (cottons of course) and a 5kg drying load (cottons again). Now, I would say the latter figure is ridiculous – there is no way that machine was capable of drying 6kg of cottons in the same was my 6kg Miele could. Yes, there is a vast difference in price. However, the Hotpoint was completely incapable of drying a full 6kg of cottons in such a drum – tumble dryers needs to have larger drums and better designed drums in order to minimise creasing.

Also, I would not say that my 5kg Miele washer’s drum is considerably smaller than the 6kg Hotpoint one. I have not actually looked at the figures in any case. I would hazard, at a guess, that the Miele drum would be something like a 5.5kg Hotpoint one. That’s a daft way of putting it, perhaps, but it may go some way to explain that drum capacities, sizes, whatever are not necessarily comparable. The wash action and design of the drums themselves play a major part in determining the effectiveness of washing, rinsing and spinning in a washer. Also, remember that the maximum load for synthetics is usually half that of cottons.

Other factors to consider are of course the detergent used, the cycle, local water conditions and the types of fabrics in each load.

Not wishing to go over into vacuum cleaner territory – I know that is for another place – but a similar issue applies when it comes down to motor wattage. The wattage of a motor does not automatically determine the cleaner’s overall power – the air watts measured do. How the air watts are sustained over a given period, depending on a bag or bagless system, determines the cleaner’s overall power.

Again, this also applies to hi-fi, which is another of my interests. The correct way to measure a hi-fi’s power output is to measure it in watts RMS. However, this alone is not enough – very similar to the drum capacities above! The impedance (ohms) of the electrical signal is important, too. If the hi-fi (its amplifier, specifically) is rated at, say, 50W per channel (each speaker providing 50W each, totalling 100W) the real ‘loudness’ of the hi-fi depends on what impedance this power output is given. I’ll explain more later! :-)

Carl :-)
 
A few figures to eat read and digest....

Miele 5kg = 49 litres
Miele 6kg = 54 litres
Hotpoint 6kg = 53 litres
Bosch/Siemens 6kg = 53 litres
Zanussi 6kg = 46 litres
Zanussi 7kg = 56 litres
Hoover 8kg = 56 litres
 
Thanks, sadose. :)

I was actually referring to the volume in litres in tumble dryers between Zanussi and Miele, not washers. :-) The Miele dryer had a drum with a larger volume than the equivalent Zanussi despite both being 6kg machines.

In any case, I would take figures from manufacturers like Hotpoint with a pinch of salt these days. Unless these were measured independently – including Miele – I would assume a Miele drum would be larger. If not, a modern Miele drum is possibly going to be more efficient than a modern Hotpoint drum due to its being, quite simply, of a higher standard.

And that is not me being snobbish – I like modern Zanussis, AEGs, 1980s and 1990s Hotpoints, Hoover New Waves, etc. :-) I actually like modern Hotpoints, if only they were not so unreliable for some!

Regards,

Carl :-)
 
sadose,

I hope I didn’t come across as snappy in my previous message. :-)

I wasn’t being nasty or anything. :-)

Regards,

Carl :-)
 
No offence taken...!

No worries mate. And i agree that if Merloni made strives in quality then Hotpoint's would be fantastic machines. I had a WF430 aquarius 1300 (Merloni made) prior to the Zanussi, it only lasted 9 months before is started shredding laundry with the green paddles coming off during the wash. Very interesting machines though in terms of cycles. Zanussi is now almost 14 months old and so far so good considering until recently it was doing upwards of 30 or 40 loads a week.

Oh, while I'm at it, I know somebody mentioned it but can't remember who! I have just started using my new Siemens' dryer with the wavy paddles in, I tried it on sheets and I can safely say that the lack of reverse action with those paddles doesn't contribute to tangling, the method is very effective!

Saj
 

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