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Nah. There are str8's.
I'm thinking more people dabble with the forbidden *fruit* than we can even imagine.
Father of a friend said: *I can see an occasional H/J, but to make a lifestyle of it?* Apparently someone has more war-time stories than he is telling.....
I mean COME-on, even I had a cross-over experience with a *perky* 24 y.o. on New Year's Eve that just passed.
Nah. There are str8's.
I'm thinking more people dabble with the forbidden *fruit* than we can even imagine.
Father of a friend said: *I can see an occasional H/J, but to make a lifestyle of it?* Apparently someone has more war-time stories than he is telling.....
I mean COME-on, even I had a cross-over experience with a *perky* 24 y.o. on New Year's Eve that just passed.
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Yeah
and I bet if you had Tartar sauce you would have gone further.
and I bet if you had Tartar sauce you would have gone further.
*SIGH*
I know, latent het tendencies. What is the world coming to?
I know, latent het tendencies. What is the world coming to?
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Dr. Versatronic's analysis
Maybe you retrosexuals aren't so much gay as ubersexual and pine for anything with two legs that still has a pulse. And you gravitate toward gay men because since there are no more old fashioned women around the only reasonable substitute is a retrosexual.
Well, sooner or later one of you retrosexuals will be sitting in my tiki lounge and I will probe the depths of your psyche because I'm profoundly interested and puzzled by so many things that are too explosive to examine here.
Maybe you retrosexuals aren't so much gay as ubersexual and pine for anything with two legs that still has a pulse. And you gravitate toward gay men because since there are no more old fashioned women around the only reasonable substitute is a retrosexual.
Well, sooner or later one of you retrosexuals will be sitting in my tiki lounge and I will probe the depths of your psyche because I'm profoundly interested and puzzled by so many things that are too explosive to examine here.
Define:
retrosexual
ubersexual
*pine for anything with two legs that still has a pulse*
There are two words for this, one is *narcissist.*
Responding to anyone who compliments and pays atention to you.
en.wikipedia.org
retrosexual
ubersexual
*pine for anything with two legs that still has a pulse*
There are two words for this, one is *narcissist.*
Responding to anyone who compliments and pays atention to you.
Narcissism - Wikipedia
MECHANT MECHANT
KAKO TTAIDAKI
bad boy
Ya know I never thought of that, Mike.
LOL
I unexpectedly ended up cooking dinner that night at a friend's place, but had no idea what was forthcoming on the menu.
KAKO TTAIDAKI
bad boy
Ya know I never thought of that, Mike.
LOL
I unexpectedly ended up cooking dinner that night at a friend's place, but had no idea what was forthcoming on the menu.
Versatronic
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Oh Man
Holy crap Toggle! It's bad enough I have to fend off the attempts at emasculation from women folk on a daily basis and have to participate in clubs to reaffirm my masculinity, but now I have to explain what an ubersexual is to one of the most flamboyant 'mos at automaticwasher.org? Why don't you just cut my testicles off and get it over with? There was another thread around here recently about what an ubersexual is and you can look it up on the net. My God. I'll explain retrosexual in a second.
Holy crap Toggle! It's bad enough I have to fend off the attempts at emasculation from women folk on a daily basis and have to participate in clubs to reaffirm my masculinity, but now I have to explain what an ubersexual is to one of the most flamboyant 'mos at automaticwasher.org? Why don't you just cut my testicles off and get it over with? There was another thread around here recently about what an ubersexual is and you can look it up on the net. My God. I'll explain retrosexual in a second.
me flamboyant? say it aint so....
Not that anyone cares but drag-queen bingo was fun last night. No.... I was a PASSIVE participant. No heels for this boy.
Not that anyone cares but drag-queen bingo was fun last night. No.... I was a PASSIVE participant. No heels for this boy.
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I need a new dick-tionary
Are we creating new words? I'm sure I just missed some posts somewhere...
Are we creating new words? I'm sure I just missed some posts somewhere...
Gentlemen, gentlemen,
May I remind you of the younger people lurking on this site?
May I remind you of the younger people lurking on this site?
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Retrosexuals
It's OK foraloysius, we'll keep this at a PG level. And what are you doing out of bed at this hour?
There's the whole Metrosexual and Ubersexual thing which is well documented. Retrosexual is a word that I made up that would describe, well, a lot of the people here. But I came up with the word a couple of years ago. I had my first party in the new digs and my friend Melissa brought along two of her dearest friends, Barry and Tom from Baltimore. They were in complete awe in the bachelor pad surroundings. These two guys looked like they came straight out of the '50s. One of my best friend's wife said "Great get-up guys. Perfect for this party". And they just looked confused. This is the way these guys always dressed. This was my first encounter with this type of situation. Two guys living together, trying to set up and recreate a idealistic '50s era living arrangement. Obviously, they had a fondness for the era and pined for simplicity and values of that era. They detested the way our country had moved away from the optimism and quality of the era and became what it is today. And look at the threads here. What do you miss most? Department stores, etc. etc. People want to go back to an era of optimism, of quality products, of wholesomeness, of stylishness, of innovation.
This whole website is permeated with that thinking and filled with Retrosexuals. But that's where the whole intriguing part of this comes into play and this is where we get into dangerous territory. And this is what really puzzles me. There's an inherit dichotomy in pining for the good things of the past and wanting to recreate it or preserve it and intellectually considering yourselves "progressive" and wanting everything to change, including the things unique to America that actually were the stimulus for all these good things to happen. I can't rationalize that to myself and I'm still trying to understand that mindset. It inherently doesn't make sense to me and puzzles me.
But, dear friends, even though I joke around a lot, I'm serious right now, and I'm asking you for a favor. Let's not discuss it here. Please. Just consider it something to think about privately. And I know that I'll be hosting some of you in the bachelor pad in the future and maybe we can discuss and I'll be able to understand this better. Or, if you think you have thought this through and do understand and can explain it, then you can email me and perhaps I'll be enlightened.
It's OK foraloysius, we'll keep this at a PG level. And what are you doing out of bed at this hour?
There's the whole Metrosexual and Ubersexual thing which is well documented. Retrosexual is a word that I made up that would describe, well, a lot of the people here. But I came up with the word a couple of years ago. I had my first party in the new digs and my friend Melissa brought along two of her dearest friends, Barry and Tom from Baltimore. They were in complete awe in the bachelor pad surroundings. These two guys looked like they came straight out of the '50s. One of my best friend's wife said "Great get-up guys. Perfect for this party". And they just looked confused. This is the way these guys always dressed. This was my first encounter with this type of situation. Two guys living together, trying to set up and recreate a idealistic '50s era living arrangement. Obviously, they had a fondness for the era and pined for simplicity and values of that era. They detested the way our country had moved away from the optimism and quality of the era and became what it is today. And look at the threads here. What do you miss most? Department stores, etc. etc. People want to go back to an era of optimism, of quality products, of wholesomeness, of stylishness, of innovation.
This whole website is permeated with that thinking and filled with Retrosexuals. But that's where the whole intriguing part of this comes into play and this is where we get into dangerous territory. And this is what really puzzles me. There's an inherit dichotomy in pining for the good things of the past and wanting to recreate it or preserve it and intellectually considering yourselves "progressive" and wanting everything to change, including the things unique to America that actually were the stimulus for all these good things to happen. I can't rationalize that to myself and I'm still trying to understand that mindset. It inherently doesn't make sense to me and puzzles me.
But, dear friends, even though I joke around a lot, I'm serious right now, and I'm asking you for a favor. Let's not discuss it here. Please. Just consider it something to think about privately. And I know that I'll be hosting some of you in the bachelor pad in the future and maybe we can discuss and I'll be able to understand this better. Or, if you think you have thought this through and do understand and can explain it, then you can email me and perhaps I'll be enlightened.
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the younger people
Oh yes:
"May I remind you of the younger people lurking on this site?"
In our age of Britney 'Spheres' and Will & Grace, we wouldn't want to offend any 17 y.o. with humor from a 30 or 40+ y.o.s backround. Heavens. The courts are so busy indicting the bush crime sydicate for ALL their unAmerican behavior in the white house, I don't think we need to worry about off-color jokes here.
But it is worth noting that there are those of us here who at least put up the illusion of pointless prudence. I'm not one of those people.
Oh yes:
"May I remind you of the younger people lurking on this site?"
In our age of Britney 'Spheres' and Will & Grace, we wouldn't want to offend any 17 y.o. with humor from a 30 or 40+ y.o.s backround. Heavens. The courts are so busy indicting the bush crime sydicate for ALL their unAmerican behavior in the white house, I don't think we need to worry about off-color jokes here.
But it is worth noting that there are those of us here who at least put up the illusion of pointless prudence. I'm not one of those people.
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This is a washing machine appliance group
I don't want to seem like We shouldn't respect the structure of this group though. We are here mainly for the enjoyment of appliances. And I will do my best to try and stick mainly to that topic~
I don't want to seem like We shouldn't respect the structure of this group though. We are here mainly for the enjoyment of appliances. And I will do my best to try and stick mainly to that topic~
I, for one, would have no interest in returning to the 1950's, as much as I like the design of that era. No interest in the racism, homophobia, sexism and the bland conformity of that time (although we still have plenty of bland conformity to go around today)
But I will say this for that era: A lot of progressive thought emerged from that stifling morass that began (roughly) with McCarthyism and ended (again, roughly) with JFK's assassination. The pioneers of that era (Rosa Parks, MLK, Charles Eames, Harvey Earl, etc, etc, etc) helped mold the positive changes that we see today, where people are more free to be themselves. Some may call it libertine, or "decayed morals", but I think it's just a more realistic approach to living. You can pound all you want, but some pegs just don't fit into some holes (and I don't mean that in a sexual sense ;-)
A lot of the things we miss from that era (quality products, design innovation, good service, common courtesy) still exist, but the business interests that run this country have no interest in promoting it. The emphasis is much more on consumerism strictly for the sake of consumerism. Simple-minded, sound-byte driven politics of division are employed to keep us distracted from the real issues of the time. In the big picture, who sleeps with who is not important - who is ruining the environment and looting the nation's wealth is.
I agree that this is not exactly the forum for this kind of discussion, but it's something I think about a lot. Through the years, people have compared my "decor" to being "Just like Grandma's house", and I have had people ask me if it is just an escape from modern life. To me, it's not - it's an appreciation of a certain optimism that was itself a rejection of the dreariness and deprivation of the Great Depression and the War Years. A "synergy", if you will, of American ingenuity and manufacturing might, with the innovation of designers from around the world. A hope that things might be better for humanity, not just for the individual. The design of that era reflects those values, and represents some of the best of human intellect and aspiration, which is why it holds up well even today.
So I live very much in the present, but like having timeless pieces around to inspire and comfort me.
But I will say this for that era: A lot of progressive thought emerged from that stifling morass that began (roughly) with McCarthyism and ended (again, roughly) with JFK's assassination. The pioneers of that era (Rosa Parks, MLK, Charles Eames, Harvey Earl, etc, etc, etc) helped mold the positive changes that we see today, where people are more free to be themselves. Some may call it libertine, or "decayed morals", but I think it's just a more realistic approach to living. You can pound all you want, but some pegs just don't fit into some holes (and I don't mean that in a sexual sense ;-)
A lot of the things we miss from that era (quality products, design innovation, good service, common courtesy) still exist, but the business interests that run this country have no interest in promoting it. The emphasis is much more on consumerism strictly for the sake of consumerism. Simple-minded, sound-byte driven politics of division are employed to keep us distracted from the real issues of the time. In the big picture, who sleeps with who is not important - who is ruining the environment and looting the nation's wealth is.
I agree that this is not exactly the forum for this kind of discussion, but it's something I think about a lot. Through the years, people have compared my "decor" to being "Just like Grandma's house", and I have had people ask me if it is just an escape from modern life. To me, it's not - it's an appreciation of a certain optimism that was itself a rejection of the dreariness and deprivation of the Great Depression and the War Years. A "synergy", if you will, of American ingenuity and manufacturing might, with the innovation of designers from around the world. A hope that things might be better for humanity, not just for the individual. The design of that era reflects those values, and represents some of the best of human intellect and aspiration, which is why it holds up well even today.
So I live very much in the present, but like having timeless pieces around to inspire and comfort me.
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And Now We Have...
(quality products, design innovation, good service, common courtesy) still exist, but the business interests that run this country have no interest in promoting it.....
No, nowadays the focus is on how to get the maximum return to the stockholder at the lowest possible cost. (Faster, Better, Cheaper rules the boardrooms.) With this type of thinking, there is no room for the human equation, hence layoffs and poor morale.
And now we are getting the latest set of college grads who have been trained in the thinking of the more ruthless you get the better off you will be.
(quality products, design innovation, good service, common courtesy) still exist, but the business interests that run this country have no interest in promoting it.....
No, nowadays the focus is on how to get the maximum return to the stockholder at the lowest possible cost. (Faster, Better, Cheaper rules the boardrooms.) With this type of thinking, there is no room for the human equation, hence layoffs and poor morale.
And now we are getting the latest set of college grads who have been trained in the thinking of the more ruthless you get the better off you will be.
Frank, take me home I'm getting a headache LOL
In most respects I find discussions like this thread to be quite enlightening and advantageous to the group as a whole. I don't believe that by censoring or stiffling discussion on the premise that "youngsters" are lurking is a good idea. That doesn't mean either that blatantly graphic innuendo and word play about intimate sex acts or genitalia needs to be peppered throughout the conversation whereas harmless off-color jocularity, gay or straight or whatever is and has always been a part of mainstream conversations and discussions.
Lastly, if any youngster below the age of consent is lurking here their parents should know what they're looking at and make the decision for them if it should be out of bounds. I know, easier said than done, but you can't police the worlds children and I suspect most are pressing the "I'm 18" button on many an adult website anyways. I know I would have..LOL
In most respects I find discussions like this thread to be quite enlightening and advantageous to the group as a whole. I don't believe that by censoring or stiffling discussion on the premise that "youngsters" are lurking is a good idea. That doesn't mean either that blatantly graphic innuendo and word play about intimate sex acts or genitalia needs to be peppered throughout the conversation whereas harmless off-color jocularity, gay or straight or whatever is and has always been a part of mainstream conversations and discussions.
Lastly, if any youngster below the age of consent is lurking here their parents should know what they're looking at and make the decision for them if it should be out of bounds. I know, easier said than done, but you can't police the worlds children and I suspect most are pressing the "I'm 18" button on many an adult website anyways. I know I would have..LOL
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Beyond sexual orientation stereotypes....
which are one thing, I find just male/female stereotypes interesting, sometimes infuriating, regardless of sexual interests.
I'm as straight as they come but so many of the traditional "guys" interests have no appeal to me.
I went to one hockey game in my life, and one football game with my dad. I remember during it I was thinking how cold it was and that I would rather be playing with my Smash Up Derby set. My dad was never pushy about getting me into sports either, and I am glad of that. I remember some of my friends distinctly were not into Little League, but went because of their dad. I have no interest in "cocktails" with the "guys at work". Golf is fun maybe once in five years. I don't like a "good cigar". I love photography and filmmaking. I love arranging things, buying fine things, fine dining, furnishings, clothing (although I am TOO casual sometimes). On the other side of the ledger, I love hot cars, nice legs on women, good action movies, aircraft, air shows, lifting weights and working the body bag, cycling on vintage bikes, ANYTHING with an engine or motor on it, and many typical "male" hobbies.
In high school, I was the "hot rod" guy, but I wasn't a service station lifer either. Didn't quite fit that mold. Didn't quite fit any mold.
My first marriage my ewife always had this insinuation to my suggestions that I had no idea how to decorate. When we divorced people always remarked how nice I dressed and furnished my then-townhouse. Yeah, guess I got taste in 90 days.
Here's a stereotype for you. A few months ago my wife and I returned a pan to one of those high end gourmet stores in the mall (hate the "mall"). The sales woman, one of those late 30s/early 40s "power women" types starts talking to my wife. I showed her the pan and the fact that the non stick surface was peeling away. She curtly told me that this was because it was cooked on too high a heat, then went back to talking to my wife. The inference was obvious--my wife does the cooking and I must have RUINED the pan when I decided to do something stupid like cook burgers for the guys during the game. I had to interrupt her to tell her that my WIFE does not buy the cookware and that I do most of the cooking. She looked at me like I was invading some holy turf. Similar to the you gotta be kidding look I get from guys when they ask me if I saw the "game" and I tell them that I don't even know what "season" it is.
Fun events:
--When my wife and I realized that we hated the current "floral" offerings of all new dishware and decided to standardize on New Fiesta
--Going to Palm Springs and oogling at the high end vintage stores
--Driving my 440 Super Bee, Ebaying Franciscan Starburst, enjoying my Eldon Slot Cars and flying RC planes with my son all on the same weekend.
--Coming here and enjoying all the different attitudes, opinions and interests, knowing that we are all bound by fine tastes, open minds, and hearty interests in the good things in life.
which are one thing, I find just male/female stereotypes interesting, sometimes infuriating, regardless of sexual interests.
I'm as straight as they come but so many of the traditional "guys" interests have no appeal to me.
I went to one hockey game in my life, and one football game with my dad. I remember during it I was thinking how cold it was and that I would rather be playing with my Smash Up Derby set. My dad was never pushy about getting me into sports either, and I am glad of that. I remember some of my friends distinctly were not into Little League, but went because of their dad. I have no interest in "cocktails" with the "guys at work". Golf is fun maybe once in five years. I don't like a "good cigar". I love photography and filmmaking. I love arranging things, buying fine things, fine dining, furnishings, clothing (although I am TOO casual sometimes). On the other side of the ledger, I love hot cars, nice legs on women, good action movies, aircraft, air shows, lifting weights and working the body bag, cycling on vintage bikes, ANYTHING with an engine or motor on it, and many typical "male" hobbies.
In high school, I was the "hot rod" guy, but I wasn't a service station lifer either. Didn't quite fit that mold. Didn't quite fit any mold.
My first marriage my ewife always had this insinuation to my suggestions that I had no idea how to decorate. When we divorced people always remarked how nice I dressed and furnished my then-townhouse. Yeah, guess I got taste in 90 days.
Here's a stereotype for you. A few months ago my wife and I returned a pan to one of those high end gourmet stores in the mall (hate the "mall"). The sales woman, one of those late 30s/early 40s "power women" types starts talking to my wife. I showed her the pan and the fact that the non stick surface was peeling away. She curtly told me that this was because it was cooked on too high a heat, then went back to talking to my wife. The inference was obvious--my wife does the cooking and I must have RUINED the pan when I decided to do something stupid like cook burgers for the guys during the game. I had to interrupt her to tell her that my WIFE does not buy the cookware and that I do most of the cooking. She looked at me like I was invading some holy turf. Similar to the you gotta be kidding look I get from guys when they ask me if I saw the "game" and I tell them that I don't even know what "season" it is.
Fun events:
--When my wife and I realized that we hated the current "floral" offerings of all new dishware and decided to standardize on New Fiesta
--Going to Palm Springs and oogling at the high end vintage stores
--Driving my 440 Super Bee, Ebaying Franciscan Starburst, enjoying my Eldon Slot Cars and flying RC planes with my son all on the same weekend.
--Coming here and enjoying all the different attitudes, opinions and interests, knowing that we are all bound by fine tastes, open minds, and hearty interests in the good things in life.
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So eloquent
Wow, great reading. Thanks guys.
Wow, great reading. Thanks guys.
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