dj-gabriele
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Well, it's not only the Miele but also my Candy and Whirlpool don't start heating water right away, in the very long cottons 60°C the first 20-30 minutes of the wash are in cold water!
12 Minute Wash - Hype or Reality..!!!
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For those of you in water scarce areas-can understand.In my area the water is plentiful-but again I don't waste it or use it unnessceraly.My water bill averages about $31 per month.the sales of FL washers in my area is slow.Stores have plenty of them-but they go on sale after awhile becuse they don't move here.I don't live in a real high income area.I have read too many horror stories on this site on FL washers and the returns in the stores here.The spider problems also have me concerned that the washer will become landfill bait long before its time.So I am holding off buying any FL washers-and their electronic timers and control baords have me worried from the frequent lightening storms here-you would have to unplug the machine when not in use.so I stick to vintage TL machines as long as I can get them-may have to stock up-whenever I find a BD WP-KN machine-buy it and store it.
2 Hour washing in a Miele
I have a Miele washer about 6 1/2 years old, cold fill only - which suits me as I do not have an instant or gas water heater.
All the cotton cycles (5kg & 95c - 30c) have a default 1hr 46min time cycle, although the machine often reduces this when is senses a lighter load.
The minimum iron cycles (3kg 60c - 30c) all default to 1r 16 min cycle time, I dont think I have ever seen the machine reduce the cycle time but then, living on my own, 3kg is perhaps more achievable that 5kg
There is a quick wash cycle at 40c and 35 minutes, but I never use that - along with a "short" option button that I dont use either.
Like Matt I ofen run the machine at night and usually add the soak option which is supposed to be a more eco friendly version of a pre-wash - as it does not involve two fills and two lots of detergent. Basically the machine fills as normal and just tumbles every so often for two hours before the cycle starts as normal. I must confess that the main reason I use it is to delay the more expensive part of the programme (heating the water) until after my cheaper night tarrif electricity cuts in. I set the rinse hold to prevent the last spin until after I am wake so the clothes dont get too creased.
I really dont not see what all the fuss about these short cycles is about - I am definatly in the "its all marketing hype" camp. Surely the whole point about an AUTOMATIC machine is that you can walk away and leave it, coming back when it suits you - its not like the machine is going to nag you when you get back? Or is it?. I note my normal routine above, but last weekend I was not quite so well corganised and did not start my laundry until after I woke up Saturday morning. Sorted the laundry bin into whites & coloureds, got the sheets & duvet cover off the bed, and into the machine. Detergent in, started up, no soak. Grabbed a coffee and a danish (OK two danish, it was the weekend!) and then over to the computer to check emails, ebay, AW.org, vacuumland and a couple of others not for this forum - the machine was finished before I was! 1hr 46min to be precise.
So, to use a different bit of marketing hype "WASHDAY? JUST FORGET IT!"
Clothes are cheaper now than they ever were and even I, who am most definatly not a fashion victim, always has clean clothes in my wardrobe, drawers (including clean drawers!) and airing cupboard (hotpress!). I think it would take me about three weeks before I would actually run out of clothes, but I choose to do a weekly wash (I did consider 2 weekly when the "how much will a FL washer hold) as I dont care to have dirty laundry about for so long. So why the rush to do the washing, especially if tumble drying?
As I often line dry when I can the longer cycles are helpful as it gives time (on a good day) for somethings to be ironing dry which can then be removed to make space for others.
And for those who feel they must be tied to their washing machine, THROUGH 12 minute wash (or is that tangling - duck & run) cycles from start of end are nothing new at all, just needs a bit of 1957 technology as demonstrated on the link.
Al
I have a Miele washer about 6 1/2 years old, cold fill only - which suits me as I do not have an instant or gas water heater.
All the cotton cycles (5kg & 95c - 30c) have a default 1hr 46min time cycle, although the machine often reduces this when is senses a lighter load.
The minimum iron cycles (3kg 60c - 30c) all default to 1r 16 min cycle time, I dont think I have ever seen the machine reduce the cycle time but then, living on my own, 3kg is perhaps more achievable that 5kg
There is a quick wash cycle at 40c and 35 minutes, but I never use that - along with a "short" option button that I dont use either.
Like Matt I ofen run the machine at night and usually add the soak option which is supposed to be a more eco friendly version of a pre-wash - as it does not involve two fills and two lots of detergent. Basically the machine fills as normal and just tumbles every so often for two hours before the cycle starts as normal. I must confess that the main reason I use it is to delay the more expensive part of the programme (heating the water) until after my cheaper night tarrif electricity cuts in. I set the rinse hold to prevent the last spin until after I am wake so the clothes dont get too creased.
I really dont not see what all the fuss about these short cycles is about - I am definatly in the "its all marketing hype" camp. Surely the whole point about an AUTOMATIC machine is that you can walk away and leave it, coming back when it suits you - its not like the machine is going to nag you when you get back? Or is it?. I note my normal routine above, but last weekend I was not quite so well corganised and did not start my laundry until after I woke up Saturday morning. Sorted the laundry bin into whites & coloureds, got the sheets & duvet cover off the bed, and into the machine. Detergent in, started up, no soak. Grabbed a coffee and a danish (OK two danish, it was the weekend!) and then over to the computer to check emails, ebay, AW.org, vacuumland and a couple of others not for this forum - the machine was finished before I was! 1hr 46min to be precise.
So, to use a different bit of marketing hype "WASHDAY? JUST FORGET IT!"
Clothes are cheaper now than they ever were and even I, who am most definatly not a fashion victim, always has clean clothes in my wardrobe, drawers (including clean drawers!) and airing cupboard (hotpress!). I think it would take me about three weeks before I would actually run out of clothes, but I choose to do a weekly wash (I did consider 2 weekly when the "how much will a FL washer hold) as I dont care to have dirty laundry about for so long. So why the rush to do the washing, especially if tumble drying?
As I often line dry when I can the longer cycles are helpful as it gives time (on a good day) for somethings to be ironing dry which can then be removed to make space for others.
And for those who feel they must be tied to their washing machine, THROUGH 12 minute wash (or is that tangling - duck & run) cycles from start of end are nothing new at all, just needs a bit of 1957 technology as demonstrated on the link.
Al
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newwave1
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As predicted............lol @ the pic of her pouring fairy gel into the dispenser!
aeg03
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Quick washes on the latest machine are not really that good.
I know someone with a Bush machine from Argos that has a quick wash for 30 mins does that at 30 degrees only with no option to change the temp. The wash is not very good.
My AEG from 2002 has a quick wash that is 60 mins - Not exactly quick. But can wash the clothes at any temp and the clothes come out clean.
I know someone with a Bush machine from Argos that has a quick wash for 30 mins does that at 30 degrees only with no option to change the temp. The wash is not very good.
My AEG from 2002 has a quick wash that is 60 mins - Not exactly quick. But can wash the clothes at any temp and the clothes come out clean.
I see this thread has been resurrected...
I was looking at the comments to this article, I just LOVE this one!!!
"I save so much on my machine, it takes 8lb and is electronic with electric drive [LG]. I fill it up with clothes, then put a chicken or even a turkey in a boil in the bag in the machine - it will also do fish etc, set the time on the 30 minutes and let it run, then add the vegetables another 30 minutes. Put your sauces or extras in the bags with the meat and vegetables to add taste of course. Do the gravy out of the juices on the stove and serve- take out the washing and hang. Brilliant, meal and clean washing- 2 for the price of one. Next Christmas it will be boil in the bag turkey with underwear fantastic!" LOL
But this comment links more to the issue at hand
"oh com on people, use your logic. You can see it now, the buying of these sooper-dooper machine machines will cost more for the greedy manufacturers and advertised as saving water and all tied-in because of global warming and water-shortages. Durrr ...who's buying it?
Strangely enough before having a good look at the pic, the machine looked like a Siemens, hopefully it won't be a sign of things to come with the company buying out well established companies and selling their cheap tat under that name. They are welcome to sell their washing machines on the market, but to take over well established brands like Zanussi and sell their tat under its name is beyond me.
I was looking at the comments to this article, I just LOVE this one!!!
"I save so much on my machine, it takes 8lb and is electronic with electric drive [LG]. I fill it up with clothes, then put a chicken or even a turkey in a boil in the bag in the machine - it will also do fish etc, set the time on the 30 minutes and let it run, then add the vegetables another 30 minutes. Put your sauces or extras in the bags with the meat and vegetables to add taste of course. Do the gravy out of the juices on the stove and serve- take out the washing and hang. Brilliant, meal and clean washing- 2 for the price of one. Next Christmas it will be boil in the bag turkey with underwear fantastic!" LOL
But this comment links more to the issue at hand
"oh com on people, use your logic. You can see it now, the buying of these sooper-dooper machine machines will cost more for the greedy manufacturers and advertised as saving water and all tied-in because of global warming and water-shortages. Durrr ...who's buying it?
Strangely enough before having a good look at the pic, the machine looked like a Siemens, hopefully it won't be a sign of things to come with the company buying out well established companies and selling their cheap tat under that name. They are welcome to sell their washing machines on the market, but to take over well established brands like Zanussi and sell their tat under its name is beyond me.
electron1100
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A Genuine Wash In Only 4 Minutes!!!!
Yes it is true, with a Hoovermatic you can
plus a bit more time for the spinning and rinsing, but these type of machines are the only ones that i know of in the UK that do have very short wash times (once the required temeperature is achieved) and wash beautifully
Yes it is true, with a Hoovermatic you can
plus a bit more time for the spinning and rinsing, but these type of machines are the only ones that i know of in the UK that do have very short wash times (once the required temeperature is achieved) and wash beautifully
aldspinboy
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Hey Mike ...
This is a great thread , I love the women in the keymatic picture I'm saving it to my photos.
I don't get the 16 min wash but it thank the car wash guys would love it for rags washed, rinsed for the next ten cars lol.
As a freashen up cycle is not bad idea.
Alex ...SuperElectronics said it best ..The world is losing the art of laundering.
Which I have a fantasy that the whole AW bored could get together and get a large book or a seminar at a large place to get peaple
motivated in ways that could change the world on laundry.
I think we have the capacity if we came together and brainstorm lol.
Your right on Asko my Super Quick wash on 105 F
two rinses it defaults to 800 rpm is 30 min can even cut 10 mins off that if I break the cycle.
1600 rpm spins are addictive.
I die for one of those HOTPOINT TOP LOADERS I could wash in the sun at that door you have in your home there all day lol !
Fantastic machine Mike.
Darren k
This is a great thread , I love the women in the keymatic picture I'm saving it to my photos.
I don't get the 16 min wash but it thank the car wash guys would love it for rags washed, rinsed for the next ten cars lol.
As a freashen up cycle is not bad idea.
Alex ...SuperElectronics said it best ..The world is losing the art of laundering.
Which I have a fantasy that the whole AW bored could get together and get a large book or a seminar at a large place to get peaple
motivated in ways that could change the world on laundry.
I think we have the capacity if we came together and brainstorm lol.
Your right on Asko my Super Quick wash on 105 F
two rinses it defaults to 800 rpm is 30 min can even cut 10 mins off that if I break the cycle.
1600 rpm spins are addictive.
I die for one of those HOTPOINT TOP LOADERS I could wash in the sun at that door you have in your home there all day lol !
Fantastic machine Mike.
Darren k
pierreandreply4
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12 minute wash thats a great cycle and its also not a waste of energy as i see nothing wrong in washing in cold water
aldspinboy
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But Wait ! we can do it here in 3 min ...plus some.
Kenmore Elite DD.
Gary that is a beautiful Hoover.
Darren k
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Kenmore Elite DD.
Gary that is a beautiful Hoover.
Darren k
[this post was last edited: 4/14/2011-22:24]
aldspinboy
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But Wait ! we can do it here in 3 min ...plus some.
Kenmore Elite DD.
Gary that's a beautiful Hoover.
Darren k
Kenmore Elite DD.
Gary that's a beautiful Hoover.
Darren k
DazLover98
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12 Minute Wash
Even though these programs that do in 12 Minutes are handy for single items or items that need washing quickly due to stains, as mentioned they can't handle 7kg with 1200rpm spin in 12 minutes!
That said though, look on the Russell Hobbs washer at ASDA Direct.com & read some reviews on it. It's your worst horror...people are actually washing FULL LOADS ON THE 12 MINUTE WASH!!!!!
That disgusts me entirely, I could only imagine that in a few months the machine will be growing mould literally EVERYWHERE.
The Quick 30 on our LG is regularly used though, great for washing when your on your way out but I do use the Synthetics / Cottons Programs too.
Even though these programs that do in 12 Minutes are handy for single items or items that need washing quickly due to stains, as mentioned they can't handle 7kg with 1200rpm spin in 12 minutes!
That said though, look on the Russell Hobbs washer at ASDA Direct.com & read some reviews on it. It's your worst horror...people are actually washing FULL LOADS ON THE 12 MINUTE WASH!!!!!
That disgusts me entirely, I could only imagine that in a few months the machine will be growing mould literally EVERYWHERE.
The Quick 30 on our LG is regularly used though, great for washing when your on your way out but I do use the Synthetics / Cottons Programs too.
pierreandreply4
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there is nothing wrong in having a cycle thats 12 minutes this means that 12 minute is also an energy saving cycle 1 wash 1 rinse final spin cycle complete if my duet had that kind of wash cycle i would only use that cycle and not normal and on cold water wash rinse setting of course.
While on can and have seen wash cycles around 12mins or less on top loading washers, there just isn't a way a front loader could do the same. Well not one for domestic use anyway especially if it must heat the water.
hype
Don't believe the hype! They now have a 15 minute cycle on some machines which I will never use. Please! Give me a break! I'll stick to normal wash for my full loads, thank you very much!
Don't believe the hype! They now have a 15 minute cycle on some machines which I will never use. Please! Give me a break! I'll stick to normal wash for my full loads, thank you very much!
