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This is my newest acquisition. I found this on ebay and was intrigued, so I bought it. I know the light bulb was perfected about 1878/9 for practical use, but I had no idea that GE tried to market them for use as a space heater as early as 1893. The bulbs are about 11" long. Anyone ever run across one of these? If so, I'd like to find out more info about them.

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I have another for parts. Out of the six bulbs, three test OK with an ohm meter. The parts unit has a piece broken off of the top front edge. Here is the picture montage of it from the ebay auction:

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Wow! Very unique. Are you going to attempt to power it up at some point? I might use a variable output transformer and bring it up to full power slowly. I wonder how much heat this would put out...
 
Not sure if I want to plug it in - you never know when old bulbs like these will burn out and I don't want to burn one out the first time it is plugged in. This heater was designed for 100 volts so I'm not sure if current voltage will be too much and I don't have any equipment to drop the voltage. I will rewire and clean it, but it will be for display only.
 
I know who to ask.

Thanks to resources at the Antique Fan Collectors' Association!

Ask Mr. Darryl Hudson at the link below. He is a machinist who knows his way around fans like Gordon knows WP/KM Belt Drive washers. Darryl also restores heaters like yours. He sells lots of fan parts, including wool oil wick material.

Nice find,
Dave

 
Dave,

Thanks for the link, there is a wealth of info on that site. I'll e-mail Darryl about the heater - I need a plug end and new cloth wire for this. According to his site, he has these in stock.
 
Not a dumb question, and I don't know. I was wondering why it was made to be 100 volts instead of 110/115V like now, but thought that the voltage standard might have been changed at a later date. I forgot about DC being in use back then.
 
Fascinating,

Even though it may have been practical, I wonder how many fires this thing caused, not to say in the least children getting burned by the bulbs.
John
 
Wouldn't this be the portable electric version of the same type of built-in and vented unit in natural gas? It seems to me that it would be just as easy for a kid to get burned on the gas type as on one of the luminous heating bulbs. It's amazing that any bulbs survived considering there's no grate to protect them or the user.

One concern would be any properties of the bulbs that could impact health. Wasn't exposure to certain types of sun/heat lamps declared unsafe sometime within the last 20 or 30 years?
 
It's AC/DC *COUGH*; should made no difference.

Kids at tat time knew that (and expected) what got hot was fire; and stay the hell away!

Generating stations orignally pumped out 110v to 120v so that the consumer ultimately was intended to get 100v.

Love that Brits first called electric heaters an electric fire!

Still not so different than today's heat-lamps that keep food warm in restaurants. My parents had such a heat-lamp in their basement for heat, only theirs glowed red so that guests knew it was for heat. If you'll pardon the expression, I could never warm-up to that thing!

 
If you do obtain a new cloth cord make sure it'll handle the amperage. A lot of the reproductions available are for low current devices like old fans and radios. Another option is to use a cord from a 40's waffle iron of skillet (change the end of course) which would've been cloth, handled the current draw and look semi-authentic while being pretty easy to find.

I find it interesting that it's a _luminous_ radiator, which to me, sounds like a source of light rather than heat!

-Cory
 
Pretty neat-reminds me of todays quartz tube InfraRed heaters.In the days a heater such as this was used-kids would be told to stay away by the parents-if the kid insisted on touching one of the hot bulb elements-he wouldn't do it again.Those would get hot enough to take off skin!The device should run from AC or DC power.But to be safe use it for "looks" only.Bet the bulb heat elements are VERY hard to find.
 
Toggles!!!!!!!

Goodness Toggles, I was about to reply to the person that commented upon us Brits, and did not realiase it was you until I logged in! How are you??

Oh and my point was that we STILL call electric fires , well... electric fires! LOL

Always have done, And LPG too, we call those gas fires.

I do call my paraffin heater a paraffin heater tho my parents call it a paraffin stove!
 
Saftey in the Modern World

First, gotta say that radiator is breath-taking, lovely.

Now on to my intended topic. It seems like there are so many safety things we just "knew" growing up that kids today have no clue about--don't put fingers in an Emerson fan, it will chop them off... If you touch the space heater it will burn you...

I have a child's sized functional wood burning stove that belonged to my grandmother. My grandfather built me a playhouse, and I built fires in it without supervision from before I can remember. Fans, heat, heat, guns, electricity, fire were things I and all the kids I knew were taught about from such an early age that we don't remember being taught.

Now ceiling fans have warning labels cautioning parents not to stick their child's head in them. I have a Mr. Coffee glass lined thermal pitcher that is labeled "do not put ice or hands inside pitcher." A woman wins a law suit because she's been burned by hot coffee that is supposed to be hot. It's insane, but it is the real world we live in.

Somehow my husband refuses to accept this brave new world. Our oldest son is eight, and one of the biggest battles we had when he was born was over my insistence that the guns be kept in a locked cabinet. "But, daddy kept his hunting rifle propped in the corner of the dining room..." So did my grandaddy, but times have changed. He was dumbfounded when our kindergartener got in trouble for snitching dad's pocket knife and bringing it to school. The principal saw no difference between the small, funcional stockman's knife and a weapon. I got it. Bruce is still shaking his head. Thank God our kids are in parochial school. Otherwise, our son would have been expelled in kindergarten under zero tolerance public school rules.
 
David, if you need any NOS cloth covered hookup wire, I had the good luck to find a 75-foot reel of the stuff when the local hardware store in Ogden changed hands and they cleared out their 'dead stock'. Send me an email if I can help!!
 
Me love

I love my old appliances that are dangerous.

Oh all the non grounded, cloth covered corded, 3-4 inch fan cage gaped, high speed spinny stuff.

Real stuff!

Oh some of the lawsuits today are ridiculous. Who is stupid enough to stick their hand in a blender????? Or stick your finger in the light socket.

Ugh. Common sense people!

I love the old fans. You know with the huge S design wire cages, usually open backs on the cages. My mom once told me not to use it because it was "so dangerous"

I promptly told her, who is stupid enough to stick their hand into the cage whilst the blade is spinning? :P
 

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