3 belt Fuchsware
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3beltwesty I love your machine. The story that comes with it (previous thread) is also interesting to read. You truly saved this machine well done!
freshlinen why don't you come and see for yourself??
John and all who helped me understand what effect various water levels would have on my machine. I like the low wash - high rinse combo and will do the same with my machine.
Thank you to everybody who has responded to this thread thus far.
There is still room for more so even if you have posted it before there are many, many of us who have never seen or heard of it. : )
3beltwesty I love your machine. The story that comes with it (previous thread) is also interesting to read. You truly saved this machine well done!
freshlinen why don't you come and see for yourself??
John and all who helped me understand what effect various water levels would have on my machine. I like the low wash - high rinse combo and will do the same with my machine.
Thank you to everybody who has responded to this thread thus far.
There is still room for more so even if you have posted it before there are many, many of us who have never seen or heard of it. : )
3beltwesty
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wow; THINKS for the images!
A google search of L27AY6 comes up zip. I wonder how many of these machines were made?
A google search of L27AY6 comes up zip. I wonder how many of these machines were made?
aldspinboy
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Loius that is one very nice Westy ...
You said it does have an eliment inside ...would you know how hot the machine gets ?
Good luck on your new find.
Darren k.
You said it does have an eliment inside ...would you know how hot the machine gets ?
Good luck on your new find.
Darren k.
Darren
The thermostat is located within the machine just under the drum. It looks like a plastic bottle top and there are makings from 0-40-50-60-70-80 on it.
It is currently set on 50 degrees. It is not meant for a 'user option' thus the reason why it being inside the machine and not easily accessible.
Depending on which cycle you choose it will heat the water to the set temp.
Say I set it @ 70 degrees and start the machine on number 4 (shortest wash) it will never reach 70 degrees in time and simply proceeds with rinse cycles. It doesn't wait until the set temp is reached as with regular machines.
If I select a longer wash cycle it will have enough time to reach that temp and maintain it.
If i fill using hot tap it will maintain the water temp should it drop within time
The thermostat is located within the machine just under the drum. It looks like a plastic bottle top and there are makings from 0-40-50-60-70-80 on it.
It is currently set on 50 degrees. It is not meant for a 'user option' thus the reason why it being inside the machine and not easily accessible.
Depending on which cycle you choose it will heat the water to the set temp.
Say I set it @ 70 degrees and start the machine on number 4 (shortest wash) it will never reach 70 degrees in time and simply proceeds with rinse cycles. It doesn't wait until the set temp is reached as with regular machines.
If I select a longer wash cycle it will have enough time to reach that temp and maintain it.
If i fill using hot tap it will maintain the water temp should it drop within time
freshlinen
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nice pic of yourself
nice photo of yourself in profile pic.will make arrangemnets to meet up and see your washer in action-take care until then.
nice photo of yourself in profile pic.will make arrangemnets to meet up and see your washer in action-take care until then.
3beltwesty
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Kic;
Hi; I am baffled what the Program #3 means with its "Gentle Spin" marking!
On my 3 belt usa westy the potato pulley makes the wash be roughly 52 to 62 rpm region during wash and rinses; the extracts/spins are in the 500 to 550 rpm range. In spin the 1800 rpm 60hz motor drives the spin pulley with roughly a 6 to 1 ratio; ie slower.
Is a dumb guess is your "gentle spin" a slower rpm then the other programs; or a shorter cycle? With the newer 1988 to 93 westy here the torquer motor allowed a faster spin speed; since the circuit board defined what was happening not a 2 pole motor and a fixed gear/pulley ratio.
Can you post an image of the water control switches lettering so all the text is readable?
I wonder if the 6 switch matrix controls temps too. Ie maybe #2 program is COLD and #1 program is WARM?
Hi; I am baffled what the Program #3 means with its "Gentle Spin" marking!
On my 3 belt usa westy the potato pulley makes the wash be roughly 52 to 62 rpm region during wash and rinses; the extracts/spins are in the 500 to 550 rpm range. In spin the 1800 rpm 60hz motor drives the spin pulley with roughly a 6 to 1 ratio; ie slower.
Is a dumb guess is your "gentle spin" a slower rpm then the other programs; or a shorter cycle? With the newer 1988 to 93 westy here the torquer motor allowed a faster spin speed; since the circuit board defined what was happening not a 2 pole motor and a fixed gear/pulley ratio.
Can you post an image of the water control switches lettering so all the text is readable?
I wonder if the 6 switch matrix controls temps too. Ie maybe #2 program is COLD and #1 program is WARM?
3beltwesty
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Another question; in what combo of settings does the internal heater get turned on?
Thank you Louis for sharing the pictures and the video. The control panel is interesting. I wonder what the difference is between gentle spin and drip dry. Have you tested these programmes out? Looks like a wonderful machine to play with!
BTW, is it possible to make a picture of the thermostat?
BTW, is it possible to make a picture of the thermostat?
3beltwesty
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On the usa westy here the 6 button switch uses 5 to select the wash and rinse temperatures; ie what water solenoid(s) are turned on. Warm means both are turned on. There is no internal heater.
With your licensed version the 6 button switch must be more complex.
The trim panel was in decent shape before the salt water flooding of two feet in 2005. Stuff that did not even get flooded like this panel still look poor due to spray and just salt in the air.
This is switch Q-156882 and has ratings for 120 and 240 volts too; since this switch was used on export 230/240 volt models. On mine the blue wire from this switch drives the hot solenoid; the yellow drives the cold solenoid. All the rest runs to the timer motor. The timer motor on mine does not start to move until the tubs water level switch is happy and the tubs water is correct.
The tub light on mine is if one does not want to have the light turn one when the door is open.
On a usa westy the BIG spin solenoid connects electrically to AC induction motor. The motor has to be up to speed with the start winding OFF before the BIG solenoid can work. This is so if the washers power went off the machine will not be trying to start the AC motor at the same time the solenoid commands the unit to go into spin mode; which takes a huge amount of power to accelerate the drum.
Yet another thing is a westy here has a 3rd solenoid; one in the door to prevent the door opening while in high speed spin mode. Thus the timer locks the door one timer click before and after the spin mode is used.
With your licensed version the 6 button switch must be more complex.
The trim panel was in decent shape before the salt water flooding of two feet in 2005. Stuff that did not even get flooded like this panel still look poor due to spray and just salt in the air.
This is switch Q-156882 and has ratings for 120 and 240 volts too; since this switch was used on export 230/240 volt models. On mine the blue wire from this switch drives the hot solenoid; the yellow drives the cold solenoid. All the rest runs to the timer motor. The timer motor on mine does not start to move until the tubs water level switch is happy and the tubs water is correct.
The tub light on mine is if one does not want to have the light turn one when the door is open.
On a usa westy the BIG spin solenoid connects electrically to AC induction motor. The motor has to be up to speed with the start winding OFF before the BIG solenoid can work. This is so if the washers power went off the machine will not be trying to start the AC motor at the same time the solenoid commands the unit to go into spin mode; which takes a huge amount of power to accelerate the drum.
Yet another thing is a westy here has a 3rd solenoid; one in the door to prevent the door opening while in high speed spin mode. Thus the timer locks the door one timer click before and after the spin mode is used.
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On the usa westy here the 6 button switch uses 5 to select the wash and rinse temperatures; ie what water solenoid(s) are turned on. Warm means both are turned on. There is no internal heater.
With your licensed version the 6 button switch must be more complex.
The trim panel was in decent shape before the salt water flooding of two feet in 2005. Stuff that did not even get flooded like this panel still look poor due to spray and just salt in the air.
This is switch Q-156882 and has ratings for 120 and 240 volts too; since this switch was used on export 230/240 volt models. On mine the blue wire from this switch drives the hot solenoid; the yellow drives the cold solenoid. All the rest runs to the timer motor. The timer motor on mine does not start to move until the tubs water level switch is happy and the tubs water is correct.
The tub light on mine is if one does not want to have the light turn one when the door is open.
On a usa westy the BIG spin solenoid connects electrically to AC induction motor. The motor has to be up to speed with the start winding OFF before the BIG solenoid can work. This is so if the washers power went off the machine will not be trying to start the AC motor at the same time the solenoid commands the unit to go into spin mode; which takes a huge amount of power to accelerate the drum.
Yet another thing is a westy here has a 3rd solenoid; one in the door to prevent the door opening while in high speed spin mode. Thus the timer locks the door one timer click before and after the spin mode is used.
With your licensed version the 6 button switch must be more complex.
The trim panel was in decent shape before the salt water flooding of two feet in 2005. Stuff that did not even get flooded like this panel still look poor due to spray and just salt in the air.
This is switch Q-156882 and has ratings for 120 and 240 volts too; since this switch was used on export 230/240 volt models. On mine the blue wire from this switch drives the hot solenoid; the yellow drives the cold solenoid. All the rest runs to the timer motor. The timer motor on mine does not start to move until the tubs water level switch is happy and the tubs water is correct.
The tub light on mine is if one does not want to have the light turn one when the door is open.
On a usa westy the BIG spin solenoid connects electrically to AC induction motor. The motor has to be up to speed with the start winding OFF before the BIG solenoid can work. This is so if the washers power went off the machine will not be trying to start the AC motor at the same time the solenoid commands the unit to go into spin mode; which takes a huge amount of power to accelerate the drum.
Yet another thing is a westy here has a 3rd solenoid; one in the door to prevent the door opening while in high speed spin mode. Thus the timer locks the door one timer click before and after the spin mode is used.
cycle #3 Gentle spin
I venture to say it's simply a shortened final spin. No adjustment in rpm speed.
I venture to say it's simply a shortened final spin. No adjustment in rpm speed.
@Louis/Kik
Hi Louis,
Just flicking through the archives and wondered did you ever upload the Fuchsware washer in action, great to see
it looks very similar to our UK version made by English Electric - Reversomatic Super 484
Regards
Keith
Hi Louis,
Just flicking through the archives and wondered did you ever upload the Fuchsware washer in action, great to see
it looks very similar to our UK version made by English Electric - Reversomatic Super 484Regards
Keith
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I bowled with a guy
named Gene Fuchs. He was like a mother to us younger guy's, so they called him mother Fuchs. ^v^
named Gene Fuchs. He was like a mother to us younger guy's, so they called him mother Fuchs. ^v^
