57 GE dryer fix - temp switch

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delco1946

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Finally had time to look at why my dryer isn’t heating after the maiden trial. The heater wires all “short” and have continuity so I don’t think my heater is at fault. My timer seems to “open” when checking continuity and taking pressure off the timer knob. The circuit reads closed while I keep rotational pressure on it. Not sure if this resolves when power is passing thru it presumably to advance the timer. Either way, dealing with that later.

For now, I’ve turned my attention to the temp control which seems to reading 4000 ohms between the black and red leads- which at room temp should equal 0 ohms to allow current to pass unobstructed thru the heaters. Only when the temp sending bulbs heats enough is the heater circuit supposed to be broken by the temp switch , forcing current to pass thru a 4k ohm resister while the timer advances (orange and black circuit is completed. Eventually the resister warms enough that it resets the switch and current can pass thur the heaters unobstructed again (bypassing the resistor).

At room temp I measure 4k ohms between the red and black terminals suggesting the switch internals are not conducting correctly ( should read 0 until bellows expand due to hot enough heat in the drum). Once warmed and the bellows expand, it should complete the orange - black circuit and open the black - red circuit ( forcing current thru the resistor meanwhile). However while cool, the orange-black terminals have very low resistance, suggesting a problem with the switch internals ( assume should read open). Has anyone rebuilt this switch successfully? Mine has not one, but two sealed bulb sensors to control what basically looks like some sort of rocker switch - I am very nervous about taking this apart and damaging either sealed system.

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I took a closer look, and that eBay listing looks like, but the numbers don’t match. Any idea of how problematic that is? I attached a pic of mine. Mine is labeled C11 6001 whereas the eBay listing is 6012.

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And while you’re on a roll….

Any leads on a door switch? Mine is missing. It looks simple enough to replicate but something period / model correct is always wonderful.

Thanks Ben
 
Attaching pics of the 1958 manual which actually gives part numbers. The 57 doesn’t appear to. I have a 57 IDA820P2. Either of the thermostat part numbers match the eBay listing 😞. Do I risk it for 75 dollars!?

I assume my switch which match the attached image but it gives no part numbers….

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Door switch - the original replacement was WE4X67. It used a threaded shaft with nuts to hold it to the panel, and was used on 1957-most 1961 models. However, beginning with the ‘61 dryers GE started using the cheaper push through switch with three terminals. You could try drilling out the hole to accommodate for the WE4X197 switch.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/155881042988

Ben

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Enjoying the week off….

And finally getting caught up on a long list of projects. I removed the original temp switch and noticed for the replacement I bought on eBay, that dryer modifications are required ( drilling new holes into the door) that I was not excited about. I’m glad I was careful with the original capillaries because after some cleaning and adjusting it seems to be working again! I’m also getting the impression that someone has worked on this in the past and didn’t have the manual or just wasn’t too careful. Missing screws, wrong size replacement screws and messing with adjustments, etc. Using a hairdryer, I think the temp setting is at least in the right range to trip.

I was able to put the recently purchased item back in the box and will store it until possibly needed. I suspect once reassembled I will have a working dryer :). Now I’ll just need to keep searching for the door switch ( which also should mean I’ll have a working pilot light).
 
looking at that switch
You could probably improvise a repair with parts from an electric heater.
Pretty common style of part even if the screws and mounts are different.

Speaking as an electrician, years ago I used to fix things.
Used to get a pat on the back for repairing things and sometimes improvising things.
Now that fall under what we call an management of change .

Alterations in electrical equipment require signing off from an engineer to ensure the safety and reliability.
( Usually a guy that graduated top of his class at MIT.... Mumbai institute of technology HA HA no joke foreign train engineers that may or may be as familiar with equipment as I am )

Joke, but serious for a moment.
If you modify things, or make significant changes your insurance might take issue.
The electrical equipment if installed in 1958 to 1958 codes is fine.
Move to some other place in a new installation and that may not be the case.
A new part that requires a retrofit must meet the specifications of the old parts.

That just sounds like common sense right?
But Insurance companies are in the business of connection your money and not paying out if they can.
They are not your friend and will use any excuse to not pay out a claim.
You also leave yourself open of liability if you fix something for someone else.
 
Home insurance and do it yourself repairs

If this dryer ends up burning your house down, your insurance company has to pay for it unless they catch a problem and tell you to change it before it happens there’s nothing they can do about it they have to pay off on your insurance.

Of course, it’s extremely unlikely a closed dryer could cause a housefire it’s all in metal, as long as you use common sense and don’t keep your paper bag collection behind the dryer there’s just very little hazard.

It’s sort of the same as your auto insurance. If you go out and get drunk tonight and smash up your car, they have to pay they will probably cancel you, however.

But again the chance of any repair that you could make to this dryer creating a severe hazard is nil.

I assume you’re talking about the temperature control thermostat and not the heat switch the heat switches the switch up on the control panel.

John
 
No plans to burn my house down….

I reassembled the dryer,I even found a comparable switch at ace hardware ( I’ve started to go there instead of Home Depot for screws and random hardware- they have so much more!). I cobbled together some random parts so they switch wouldn’t protrude as much, and lightly filed the exiting hole on the door and voila,I have a door switch! Light didn’t come on but assuming that’s just cuz it’s burned out - I checked continuity thru the switch when open.

Maiden voyage wasn’t great. It seemed to be running with no heat. I moved the control dial and could hear electrical contacts sparking which usually isn’t a good sign. I then started to get a terribly burning smell ( Almost a dead animal /sulfur smell), all the while the dryer kept spinning. At first I thought the internal guts of the control must be burning up and causing the stink but after I turned off the dryer from the breaker panel and smelt the control dial and then stuck my head inside the drum and smell that it was much stronger inside the drum so perhaps it was the heater wires finally getting current and heating up after decades. No visible signs of fire or any melting/ damage.
 
Systematically went thru each cycle and I think I’ve figured out what’s wrong. When circuits are completed, it heats, it spins on air etc. no weird smells anymore, must have been the initial heating of the wires after decades. My timer doesnt advance, and I have to hold it in order to complete electrical circuits to the heaters. Seem I have both worn contacts and probably a bad timer motor. Yippee.

If anyone has replaced these, rebuilt these, etc etc please let me know!
 

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