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The Longest Lasting And Most Durable Dishwasher Pump And Motor Ever Made
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The GE shaded pole dishwasher pump Motor was Noisy andinefficient but motor itself was fairly durable, except for all the times where the fans would come loose on the shaft and make hell of a racket, lol
The drain valve system was always a problem from the beginning to the end. My main point was you shouldn’t put a piece of shit motor like this in a top-of-the-line dishwasher. GE dropped the ball and spending the extra money. Luckily they fix the problem by the 90s and stop using this shitty motor in their models.
Unquestionably the most reliable motor ever an American dishwasher were the Hobart built KitchenAid they were the only ones with stainless steel shafts ball bearings and a decent splash shield to keep water out of the motor when the main seal started to fail.
And for the record whirlpool never used a crappy shaded pole motor in a dishwasher. In fact no other US manufacture ever used one in a dishwasher at least before 1990.
Chat, you need to think for yourself and not follow others. There’s a real possibility that myself and a few other people are going to take over control of this website and there will be a lot of changes.
John
The GE shaded pole dishwasher pump Motor was Noisy andinefficient but motor itself was fairly durable, except for all the times where the fans would come loose on the shaft and make hell of a racket, lol
The drain valve system was always a problem from the beginning to the end. My main point was you shouldn’t put a piece of shit motor like this in a top-of-the-line dishwasher. GE dropped the ball and spending the extra money. Luckily they fix the problem by the 90s and stop using this shitty motor in their models.
Unquestionably the most reliable motor ever an American dishwasher were the Hobart built KitchenAid they were the only ones with stainless steel shafts ball bearings and a decent splash shield to keep water out of the motor when the main seal started to fail.
And for the record whirlpool never used a crappy shaded pole motor in a dishwasher. In fact no other US manufacture ever used one in a dishwasher at least before 1990.
Chat, you need to think for yourself and not follow others. There’s a real possibility that myself and a few other people are going to take over control of this website and there will be a lot of changes.
John
neptunebob
Well-known member
Those motors may have been good...
But they were loud! GE dishwashers as far as I know from the 60s to about 2000 roared and they probably did since the beginning of GE dishwashers.
You are right in that the later models do not hold up as well. GE Artistry we had was about 6 years before it just died. Actually the wash motor still works fine but the draining makes a loud buzz, the heating element is dead (thus the water never stays hot), the racks are broken and there is rust on the outside. So the motor still held up better than the rest of the appliance.
But they were loud! GE dishwashers as far as I know from the 60s to about 2000 roared and they probably did since the beginning of GE dishwashers.
You are right in that the later models do not hold up as well. GE Artistry we had was about 6 years before it just died. Actually the wash motor still works fine but the draining makes a loud buzz, the heating element is dead (thus the water never stays hot), the racks are broken and there is rust on the outside. So the motor still held up better than the rest of the appliance.
Loose fans and seized seals were rare compared to the amount of GE and Hotpoint DWs in service. Noisy, I'll give you that. But they lasted and lasted. The newer PSC motors are much quieter however the seals still can't match the mid 80s pumps longevity wise. Also curious if the new motor bearings can do 40 years.
I strongly oppose becoming a site admin in hopes of banning anyone who has a technical disagreement or contradictory experience.
I strongly oppose becoming a site admin in hopes of banning anyone who has a technical disagreement or contradictory experience.
Newer PSC GE dishwasher Motors, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a bad seal on the new ones. It’s only the shift shaft for the drain pump and the solenoids keep burning up. That’s a crappy design too because you can only energize it for about two minutes before it goes up and smoke or when somebody keeps putting one in drain function, the solenoid just burns up.
We used to see the black shaded pole Motors, where the seal had leaked long enough that the shaft would actually rust enough to break off, never seen that with any other dishwasher, a couple DM machines came close, where the shaft was rusted to the point where you could use it.
There was only one thing good about the original shaded pole motor. It made so much heat and it blew so much air around that it would hide the fact for many users that the dishwasher was leaking badly underneath at least until they had water coming through the floor , or the kitchen floor buckled up and your flooring was ruined.
Next to DM dishwashers GE’s were the greatest leakers of all times.
Yes, chat when you make ridiculous allegations about made up shaded pole motors in whirlpool dishwashers and don’t retract it or back it up that would get you banned.
John
We used to see the black shaded pole Motors, where the seal had leaked long enough that the shaft would actually rust enough to break off, never seen that with any other dishwasher, a couple DM machines came close, where the shaft was rusted to the point where you could use it.
There was only one thing good about the original shaded pole motor. It made so much heat and it blew so much air around that it would hide the fact for many users that the dishwasher was leaking badly underneath at least until they had water coming through the floor , or the kitchen floor buckled up and your flooring was ruined.
Next to DM dishwashers GE’s were the greatest leakers of all times.
Yes, chat when you make ridiculous allegations about made up shaded pole motors in whirlpool dishwashers and don’t retract it or back it up that would get you banned.
John
I saw at least several main seal leakers in the scrap pile with the PSC motors in the late 2000s. I honestly don't think anything post 94 onward to today is better than the old. GE seriously tried and won in the 80s.
Yes all GE drain solenoids would burn up after 2 minutes of being energized- a common failure mode in post 96 models where the Siebe (IIRC) timer motors would fail after a cycle was finished and the user set the machine to normal or light next load. The manual starting point for the normal and light wash cycle was typically right where the drain solenoid engaged for the previous heavy or normal prewash. User would close the door, drain solenoid would engage but the timer would not advance. The solenoid would run until it burned open with melted plastic being pulled up by the armature. The combination of the failed timer and essentially needing to replace the entire motor and pump mech (yes you could just replace the solenoid assembly and bracket) lead to the dishwashers being scrapped.
Singer timer failures were very rare and the normal/Potscrubber wash did not start with the drain solenoid engaging.
Yes all GE drain solenoids would burn up after 2 minutes of being energized- a common failure mode in post 96 models where the Siebe (IIRC) timer motors would fail after a cycle was finished and the user set the machine to normal or light next load. The manual starting point for the normal and light wash cycle was typically right where the drain solenoid engaged for the previous heavy or normal prewash. User would close the door, drain solenoid would engage but the timer would not advance. The solenoid would run until it burned open with melted plastic being pulled up by the armature. The combination of the failed timer and essentially needing to replace the entire motor and pump mech (yes you could just replace the solenoid assembly and bracket) lead to the dishwashers being scrapped.
Singer timer failures were very rare and the normal/Potscrubber wash did not start with the drain solenoid engaging.
No other dishwasher ever had such a crappy design
Where the timer would cause a major component to fail, replacing both the timer and motor and pump assembly in one of these GE dishwashers often cost nearly as much as the machine of course they got thrown away.
GE even had to put a metal shield over these motors because when they would catch fire it could set the entire dishwasher on fire.
Chet, are you going to man up and admit that you’re just a follower making a ridiculous statement that whirlpool used one of these crappy motors in their dishwasher or are you just gonna let it lay there?
Whirlpool never used a shaded pole motor and I don’t believe anybody else did either, let’s see proof or you should retract your statement.
Where the timer would cause a major component to fail, replacing both the timer and motor and pump assembly in one of these GE dishwashers often cost nearly as much as the machine of course they got thrown away.
GE even had to put a metal shield over these motors because when they would catch fire it could set the entire dishwasher on fire.
Chet, are you going to man up and admit that you’re just a follower making a ridiculous statement that whirlpool used one of these crappy motors in their dishwasher or are you just gonna let it lay there?
Whirlpool never used a shaded pole motor and I don’t believe anybody else did either, let’s see proof or you should retract your statement.
Right- but timers rarely failed 1983-1994. GE nearly perfected a new design, then subjected it to shameless cheapening and deliberate obsolescence afterwards.
Can you site the reason for the metal shield? All dishwashers had a metal shield until Whirlpool did away with them around 2010 on their standard tubs. GE motors had a thermal protector between the both windings, and I don't think many of those motors shorted to ground albeit my last inference here is thin.
I'm still going on a limb and say both Whirlpool's dura wash and power clean had more early main seal and motor bearing failures than GE did. A motor or main seal isn't crappy if it can consistently last 14,000 hours or about 2-3 times its competitors.
Can you site the reason for the metal shield? All dishwashers had a metal shield until Whirlpool did away with them around 2010 on their standard tubs. GE motors had a thermal protector between the both windings, and I don't think many of those motors shorted to ground albeit my last inference here is thin.
I'm still going on a limb and say both Whirlpool's dura wash and power clean had more early main seal and motor bearing failures than GE did. A motor or main seal isn't crappy if it can consistently last 14,000 hours or about 2-3 times its competitors.
reactor
Well-known member
poor John
Don't worry about John's comments, Chetlaham. He is big on unsubstantiated opinion. As this and other posts show, he goes on the attack against anyone whose opinion is contrary to his. I have always said he wants to be king of this site and his comments are proving this. He wants to take control of this site and censor others who do not think as he does.
Look at the quote: "Chat, you need to think for yourself, and not follow others." Chetlaham, you are thinking for yourself, and you are not following John's grossly biased opinions, that is why he is chastising you.
What John is meaning is that you need to to think like him and follow him...only.
If John becomes administrator of this site, that will be its downfall. That will be the end of an open and free forum for those who love appliances. It will become John's vehicle to further promote his biases and opinions. John consistently fabricates to reinforce his opinions, uses exaggerations and false generalizations instead of data. He presents his options as if they were reality, and they are not. They are just opinions and nothing more. John has experiences to share, but they often mean little when they are expressed and colored through bias.
John is often a toxic presence on this site. This site is to not force one's opinions on others, nor to bully others when they don't agree with you.
He has just given evidence to thus, by his retaliatory comments to Chetlaham because he had the audacity to challenge John's biased opinions.
This is a wonderful site. We have so many talented individuals with knowledge and experience to share. We are here to learn, share and to help and be supportive of each other.
Robert has been an exemplary site administrator. His experience, intellect and leadership have allowed him to create a wonderful site. He is respectful of all the members and has earned our respect in return.
If John becomes site administratior, it likely will become the John Show, a site dedicated to building his ego and deleting anyone who disagrees with him. I am sure to be the first to go, ha. John has already asked for me to be removed asca member of this site. I am one of the few who stand up against John's badgering of others who disagree and the denigrating of our members who don't share his biases.
I am seeing more people who are standing up to John. His negative behavior is becoming more pronounced. As previously mentioned, I have been getting more supportive personal messages from members who tire of John's bombastic and disrespectful treatment of those who disagree with him.
A member should not have to be afraid to make a comment for fear of being humiliated by others. John's negative comments toward me don't bother me and I have no trouble calling him out for his disrespectful treatment of others. But other members do get hurt by his attacks. It's not right. It is not the members responsibility to build another person's ego and support their emotional insecurities. It's not their responsibility to have to endure humiliation and degradation when they post an opinion, and/or state facts, contrary to another member's.
We are all equal on this site and we all have an equal right to express our viewpoints and to share our opinions, and experiences. Now we have a member who is wanting to take control of this site, censor it and "control" (per his own words) it for his own personal edification. That is not right.
If Robert feels he needs to step down as site administrator, we can understand. He has created an extraordinary site, and has put an unbelievable amount on of time and energy into it. We all fully understand his need to take a break.
If we have to sadly say good-bye to Robert, then let's get an administrator who supports and respects all members of this site and does not use it as a personal tool to build his ego and force his biased opinions upon us.
We are here to share, care and learn... respectfully.
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Don't worry about John's comments, Chetlaham. He is big on unsubstantiated opinion. As this and other posts show, he goes on the attack against anyone whose opinion is contrary to his. I have always said he wants to be king of this site and his comments are proving this. He wants to take control of this site and censor others who do not think as he does.
Look at the quote: "Chat, you need to think for yourself, and not follow others." Chetlaham, you are thinking for yourself, and you are not following John's grossly biased opinions, that is why he is chastising you.
What John is meaning is that you need to to think like him and follow him...only.
If John becomes administrator of this site, that will be its downfall. That will be the end of an open and free forum for those who love appliances. It will become John's vehicle to further promote his biases and opinions. John consistently fabricates to reinforce his opinions, uses exaggerations and false generalizations instead of data. He presents his options as if they were reality, and they are not. They are just opinions and nothing more. John has experiences to share, but they often mean little when they are expressed and colored through bias.
John is often a toxic presence on this site. This site is to not force one's opinions on others, nor to bully others when they don't agree with you.
He has just given evidence to thus, by his retaliatory comments to Chetlaham because he had the audacity to challenge John's biased opinions.
This is a wonderful site. We have so many talented individuals with knowledge and experience to share. We are here to learn, share and to help and be supportive of each other.
Robert has been an exemplary site administrator. His experience, intellect and leadership have allowed him to create a wonderful site. He is respectful of all the members and has earned our respect in return.
If John becomes site administratior, it likely will become the John Show, a site dedicated to building his ego and deleting anyone who disagrees with him. I am sure to be the first to go, ha. John has already asked for me to be removed asca member of this site. I am one of the few who stand up against John's badgering of others who disagree and the denigrating of our members who don't share his biases.
I am seeing more people who are standing up to John. His negative behavior is becoming more pronounced. As previously mentioned, I have been getting more supportive personal messages from members who tire of John's bombastic and disrespectful treatment of those who disagree with him.
A member should not have to be afraid to make a comment for fear of being humiliated by others. John's negative comments toward me don't bother me and I have no trouble calling him out for his disrespectful treatment of others. But other members do get hurt by his attacks. It's not right. It is not the members responsibility to build another person's ego and support their emotional insecurities. It's not their responsibility to have to endure humiliation and degradation when they post an opinion, and/or state facts, contrary to another member's.
We are all equal on this site and we all have an equal right to express our viewpoints and to share our opinions, and experiences. Now we have a member who is wanting to take control of this site, censor it and "control" (per his own words) it for his own personal edification. That is not right.
If Robert feels he needs to step down as site administrator, we can understand. He has created an extraordinary site, and has put an unbelievable amount on of time and energy into it. We all fully understand his need to take a break.
If we have to sadly say good-bye to Robert, then let's get an administrator who supports and respects all members of this site and does not use it as a personal tool to build his ego and force his biased opinions upon us.
We are here to share, care and learn... respectfully.
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Reactor, well said. Thank you. People ought to be able to share their love of appliances without derision or fears of being banned. It is terrifying to think that someone is actively trying to become an admin for the sole purpose flexing power over those they disagree with. Or the hypocrisy of accusing others of making unsubstantiated claims when John routinely states options as facts without ever citing a reputable source even when asked. A reference that would prove John right and everyone wrong instantaneously.
I hope that if/when this site changes ownership the proceeding is done through a democratic process with checks and balances in place so the folks with the right intentions can run the site just as Robert is running it now.
I hope that if/when this site changes ownership the proceeding is done through a democratic process with checks and balances in place so the folks with the right intentions can run the site just as Robert is running it now.
bobbins
Active member
Drain Flapper seal failures
I tend to agree the 70-90's GE were fairly reliable dishwashers. The three level washing action was one of the best dishwashers for cleaning. The highest number of services calls I had were the drain valve flappers(seal) failing ....(little bit of water drain/siphon out during the wash cycle...resulting less water left in the tub for washing), some timer issues and noisy.
I tend to agree the 70-90's GE were fairly reliable dishwashers. The three level washing action was one of the best dishwashers for cleaning. The highest number of services calls I had were the drain valve flappers(seal) failing ....(little bit of water drain/siphon out during the wash cycle...resulting less water left in the tub for washing), some timer issues and noisy.
rinso
Well-known member
In 1993, my mom and dad sold their home which had a 1980's, passive filtration, GE Potscrubber with no electronics and a nice mechanical timer. It is still working. I've always hated the older GE dishwashers with no filter, but they did last practically forever.
neptunebob
Well-known member
I have been in trouble with John too...
Because I recommended he get more fiber in his diet. Now I think Chet needs more fiber in his diet too.
As for the GE dishwasher motors, the lasted a long time and roared the whole time too.
Because I recommended he get more fiber in his diet. Now I think Chet needs more fiber in his diet too.
As for the GE dishwasher motors, the lasted a long time and roared the whole time too.
Reply number seven
Wow, chat talk about making shit Up GE motors/2 to 3 times longer than other brands, last over 14,000 hours where do you make this shit up?
Nobody has that date including GE.
Almost no dishwasher motor had a lot of problems until water got in them, whirlpool Maytag KitchenAid have the best Motors of just about anybody until GE switch to PSC Motors, and then they never had any problems either only ever saw one bad PSC motor in a GE dishwasher.
The metal shield above the motor under a plastic tank is obviously there to keep the whole dishwasher from catching fire if the motor catches fire are you really that clueless Chet. You act like you know something about everything and then you don’t know the most basic things constantly.
I heard about Barry‘s rant from others, I’m not interested in taking over this site. I am not going to run this site
But I may have a hand in it and if I do people that start an argument like Barry and start name-calling will be banned permanently.
Barry has demonstrated beautifully that when you lose an argument, you start name-calling and he’s done that he started it. I admit that I got involved in it but I’m done. I don’t call people names. I will say what I think about appliances and if it happens to rub you the wrong way go ahead and block me
I looked up some background information on Barry and found out about his legal problems if he says anything else negative about me I’m going to post the information here.
John
Wow, chat talk about making shit Up GE motors/2 to 3 times longer than other brands, last over 14,000 hours where do you make this shit up?
Nobody has that date including GE.
Almost no dishwasher motor had a lot of problems until water got in them, whirlpool Maytag KitchenAid have the best Motors of just about anybody until GE switch to PSC Motors, and then they never had any problems either only ever saw one bad PSC motor in a GE dishwasher.
The metal shield above the motor under a plastic tank is obviously there to keep the whole dishwasher from catching fire if the motor catches fire are you really that clueless Chet. You act like you know something about everything and then you don’t know the most basic things constantly.
I heard about Barry‘s rant from others, I’m not interested in taking over this site. I am not going to run this site
But I may have a hand in it and if I do people that start an argument like Barry and start name-calling will be banned permanently.
Barry has demonstrated beautifully that when you lose an argument, you start name-calling and he’s done that he started it. I admit that I got involved in it but I’m done. I don’t call people names. I will say what I think about appliances and if it happens to rub you the wrong way go ahead and block me
I looked up some background information on Barry and found out about his legal problems if he says anything else negative about me I’m going to post the information here.
John
reactor
Well-known member
good news
That indeed is good news, that John does not want to take over this site as site administrator. However, it is difficult to explain his earlier words words about taking "control" of this site then.
Here is a copy of John's quote from an earlier reply, above:
"There’s a real possibility that myself and a few other people are going to take over control of this website." Quite contrary to what he just stated. Which statement is truth and which is one of his fabrications? It is difficult to comprehend what he means by "legal issues" unless he has inadvertently looked up another individual.
As others are beginning to step up and state their issues in reference to John's sometimes belligerent behavior, and frequent argumentation, indicates it is certainly not just my perceptions. Just look at his response to Chetlaham above, who dared to disagree with him.
Sadly, some individuals feel privileged to dish it out to others, but they can't handle it when it comes back to them.
Why someone has to get so angry whenever a member complements an appliance that is not one of John's favorites, or they express an opinion contrary to his, is beyond me. I don't dislike John as a person, I dislike his, all too often, negative treatment of others on this site.
We need to be accepting of the fact, we do not all think alike, nor do we view the world in a like manner. Trying to force one's opinions on another, and getting angry because someone disagrees with you serves no purpose, and distracts from the very purpose of this site.
If we were all alike, it would be a very boring world. Let's accept the fact that we are not all going to have identical views, identical likes and dislikes or identical opinions. What is important is that we learn from each other. Checking our anger, egos and desire for control at the door will make for a better experience for all of us.
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That indeed is good news, that John does not want to take over this site as site administrator. However, it is difficult to explain his earlier words words about taking "control" of this site then.
Here is a copy of John's quote from an earlier reply, above:
"There’s a real possibility that myself and a few other people are going to take over control of this website." Quite contrary to what he just stated. Which statement is truth and which is one of his fabrications? It is difficult to comprehend what he means by "legal issues" unless he has inadvertently looked up another individual.
As others are beginning to step up and state their issues in reference to John's sometimes belligerent behavior, and frequent argumentation, indicates it is certainly not just my perceptions. Just look at his response to Chetlaham above, who dared to disagree with him.
Sadly, some individuals feel privileged to dish it out to others, but they can't handle it when it comes back to them.
Why someone has to get so angry whenever a member complements an appliance that is not one of John's favorites, or they express an opinion contrary to his, is beyond me. I don't dislike John as a person, I dislike his, all too often, negative treatment of others on this site.
We need to be accepting of the fact, we do not all think alike, nor do we view the world in a like manner. Trying to force one's opinions on another, and getting angry because someone disagrees with you serves no purpose, and distracts from the very purpose of this site.
If we were all alike, it would be a very boring world. Let's accept the fact that we are not all going to have identical views, identical likes and dislikes or identical opinions. What is important is that we learn from each other. Checking our anger, egos and desire for control at the door will make for a better experience for all of us.
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neptunebob
Well-known member
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Here’s my two cents, being opinionated along with a ‘high and mighty’ attitude will eventually cause health issues, eventually will put you in the grave. Not naming names of people in my family, but there was a few people who were like that, ended up passing away in their 60’s, not even making it to age 70.
A family member on my mother’s side who was a nasty a vile person told himself “I’ll live to 100 since other people in my family lived that long”, he too didn’t make it to age 70 since he was a ‘high and mighty’ and uptight individual. Been almost 20 years since said family member passed away on my mother’s side of the family.
It’s real unfortunate to loose family members over the years, but at the end of the day it’s a lesson to not do certain things in life or go about certain things in life and refusing to listen to others and stick your head in the sand.
At the end of the day, it just makes me wiser to not be so stuck-up, or be uptight about certain things in life on top of having a ‘high and mighty’ attitude and ego.
A family member on my mother’s side who was a nasty a vile person told himself “I’ll live to 100 since other people in my family lived that long”, he too didn’t make it to age 70 since he was a ‘high and mighty’ and uptight individual. Been almost 20 years since said family member passed away on my mother’s side of the family.
It’s real unfortunate to loose family members over the years, but at the end of the day it’s a lesson to not do certain things in life or go about certain things in life and refusing to listen to others and stick your head in the sand.
At the end of the day, it just makes me wiser to not be so stuck-up, or be uptight about certain things in life on top of having a ‘high and mighty’ attitude and ego.
14,000 Hours
If you choose to ignore all the Potscrubbers in Homes, Condos and apartments still going to this day with no main seal or motor bearing failures. Also ignoring that the main seals 94 onward were redesigned to fail prematurely. It can be measured if you take a look at a NOS 84 seals and one from 98. The new wear ring is less than half the length of the original.
You're making an assumption about the metal shield. Where did you read it was implemented to prevent the spread of fire?
I'm also not sure why you're turning a debate on GE dishwasher longevity into threats of blackmail, that is unless you want to get a rise out of other members in hopes of getting this whole thread taken down so it doesn't remain the history books that someone successfully challenged your original stance. Thats not nice.
If you choose to ignore all the Potscrubbers in Homes, Condos and apartments still going to this day with no main seal or motor bearing failures. Also ignoring that the main seals 94 onward were redesigned to fail prematurely. It can be measured if you take a look at a NOS 84 seals and one from 98. The new wear ring is less than half the length of the original.
You're making an assumption about the metal shield. Where did you read it was implemented to prevent the spread of fire?
I'm also not sure why you're turning a debate on GE dishwasher longevity into threats of blackmail, that is unless you want to get a rise out of other members in hopes of getting this whole thread taken down so it doesn't remain the history books that someone successfully challenged your original stance. Thats not nice.
cfz2882
Well-known member
shaded pole DW motors
Westinghouse Used shaded pole motors around 1971-75?-There was an air duct from the motor that i think went to the DW interior for drying purposes.My grandma had a GE from about 1972-it lasted about 15yrs-not the most pleasant sounding motor:fairly loud magnetic whirring and the speed would vary up and down some from the changing load on the pump as it pumped "solid" water and surf.Also sometimes the pump would fail to start-just hum-shaded pole motor starting torque is low vs a split phase type. This was of course the early motor with the big stamped metal fan and threaded on pump impeller. The only dishwashers I have ever had trouble with is a 2010 Bosch when the ceramic wet bearings of the BLDC motor wore out and a 2015 GE when the seal stuck and the little PSC motor didn;t have the torque to break free-a little "push"fixed that situation.
Westinghouse Used shaded pole motors around 1971-75?-There was an air duct from the motor that i think went to the DW interior for drying purposes.My grandma had a GE from about 1972-it lasted about 15yrs-not the most pleasant sounding motor:fairly loud magnetic whirring and the speed would vary up and down some from the changing load on the pump as it pumped "solid" water and surf.Also sometimes the pump would fail to start-just hum-shaded pole motor starting torque is low vs a split phase type. This was of course the early motor with the big stamped metal fan and threaded on pump impeller. The only dishwashers I have ever had trouble with is a 2010 Bosch when the ceramic wet bearings of the BLDC motor wore out and a 2015 GE when the seal stuck and the little PSC motor didn;t have the torque to break free-a little "push"fixed that situation.
