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This was in a laundry closet? From the before pictures it looks like it was in an outhouse. How anybody could mess up a machine like this is far beyond me. However, once again you amaze me with your God given talent to clean and spiff these washers up so they look like new again. Hats off to you for making this once ugly duckling into a swan that looks as if it arrived off the Sears delivery truck.

Have a good one,
James
 
Gordon it is amazing how so many people do have nasty washers!!
but you did a swell job on clean up and it is Puuurrdy lol.
I love the cycle modofier selections & auto water temp classic kenmore trait.
I did get the machines yesterday and will post later I hope you are happy with your machine Nice.

Darren k
 
The cycle modifier is

the best one ever; they put everything together--it's perfect.

See, the BOL King becomes a TOL Squire, a natural evolution at Aworg. After a while having a TOL or two become irresistible, no?

Interested in your recipe for the majestic clean-up.
 
Many options

It looks like you have many ways to customize your wash, with that Cycle Modifier and other options. I'll bet the owners manual is thick with explanations about how everything works, and when to choose which option.
 
Speaking of owner's manuals, I was thinking the same thing yesterday. Back then, there was an operator's instruction booklet for each model, including a two-page fold-out view of the control panel, with descriptions on how to use the features, knob by knob and setting by setting. That would be neat to find for sale on ebay. I've found a number of 1960's Kenmore literature items, but not 1980s yet.

Gordon
 
Mike -

I am still more of a MOL or BOL guy, but I remembered this model when I saw it in the 1980 catalog as a kid, then I paid more attention to it when I got copies of the catalogs again. Sears' focus at the time was on the electronic machines as their "Sears Best" fare, in fact in 1980 there were two electronic models offered, a left-over 1979 electronic machine (not a Lady K) and the 1980 Lady. By early 1981, the '79 model was done and only the Lady bested this machine. Since many people weren't interested in the electronic washers, this one was the TOL model in some people's minds, I'm sure.

What's cool to me is that there probably weren't very many people in town who were willing to give this washer a second glance once they saw how nasty it was, yet I have been wanting just this model, I enjoy the clean up, and it seemed to call to me. The service panel was rattling up a racket because one of the screws was missing, so if any prospective buyers tested the washer, just touching it then hearing the panel rattle could have been enough for many for say "Thanks, have a nice day" and boogie out of there.

The washer worked great during the wash of the clean-up rags, and it sounds very classically belt-drive. Once I feel like I have this thing as dissinfected on the inside as out, I think I will enjoy using it. BUT, next to it will probably be something BOL. In fact in storage I have a true BOL 1980 Kenmore, which would be neat to compare and contrast in my garage, with them both connected and serviceable.

As to my recipe for clean-up - this one took about 3.5 hours and a lot of various things to do the work, everything from a paint-scraper to Lysol disinfecting kitchen cleaner. I used 409 on the cabinet and tub ring, and saturated rags for the top. I used a Windex wipe with added Lysol for the control panel, but I usually use smooth-top stove cleaner for that as it leaves no streaks. I completely removed the panel to clean the gunk underneath. That detergent 'block' under the lid was not easy to get off. I figured it would just dissolve and fall into the tub. Well, maybe 2/3 of it did, but the rest was adhered to the top and had to be scraped off (thank goodness for porcelain, which looks un-scathed). The chunks that broke off sounded like glass or stones when I dropped them on the floor. I used Windex wipes on the knobs, which when I re-install I do so with a clean towel on my hand so as not to re-smudge them, :-) The only thing I don't like is the clear-coat issues on the woodgrain top, but I'm thinking about auto protectant to work that over.

I painted the porcelain chips, and it looks even better now. Just got to get over the 'before' shots in my mind. I've seen similarly dirty washers, in fact my 1977 Penta-Swirl machine was at least as bad, but it had been 18 years since it was used so it seemed less related to other people's "gross-ness" after all that time.

I think it safe to say that I appreciate this machine more than anyone else who would have bought it. It was offered on Craigslist more than a week before I got it, so I guess it was meant to be?

G
 
nice job on that one and a beatiful machine!
When i got my '86 70 series running i also had to run it twice
to get all the soap out of it-it tried to suds lock on the
first spin....
 
Funny! Suds locks are more probable on 1981 - 1986 Kenmore large capacity machines vs. the earlier ones, as their tubs use the much narrower drain outlet that was used on earlier standard tub models. The previous large machines use a wide-open drain hose that is probably 2 or 3 times as wide, and I'm not sure I've ever seen a suds lock in one of those. Suds locks for me in Kenmores are rare in general, but I have had them happen in models with those narrow tub drains.

Gordon
 
Windex! Thank you for your generous, satisfying post. I&#39

Was afraid that maybe the big :W: might be a bit too harsh, but it's what I use to keep the machines spiffy. So It's safe, I'm sure, if you are using it.

Very glad you got the machine. I think anyone here would love to have it. I know the MOL version very well, but it always seemed stronger and more powerful than its earlier siblings. The other day you wrote that at some point KM made a stronger transmission which these editions have. Glad to see it was not my imagination inventing their greater strength compared to the 63 LK.

Don't you get a kick out of the way the timer rushes to the rinse fill after the last spray, omitting the 2 minute spin? And when you get a chance, do these machines spin faster than their predecessors, or do they just wind up faster to 550?
 
I love your new Kenmore, will you be using this as your daily driver??? Also, was someone using this machine as it was? You did a fantastic job of cleaning it up, lots of luck. My mom used to work at a Sears Catalog Store, I remember looking at these machines when they first came out, it seems like everyone in the seventies had one version or another of the center dial Kenmores, I like this control panel style the best, before they started to color block between cycle selections, I think this was a much cleaner look, and what is the problem with the woodgrain, just curious.
Take care,
Mike

Mike
 
Gordon, I'm assuming the original dispenser had timed bleach & softner mechanisms. If not, kind of defeats the auto soak to wash detergent dispenser feature.
 
Great Job!!!

You cleaned that machine up beautifully! What was with all the soap residue in that Baby? I take it these people were some serious over soapers. When do we get to see a video of her in action?
 
Beautiful clean up on the Kenmore. Kind of cool to see "energy saver" labels over the controls. We were aware of energy costs back then, after waiting in line to buy gas. Then we went back to fantasy world for another 3 decades. This alone should make that Kenmore a collectible. alr2903
 
Nice work, Gordon! That was one nasty old girl but your makeover is stunning.

That machine and matching dryer was at an estate sale a couple of years ago. They were like new! I stared for a long time as it was one of the Kenmores I would loved as a kid - that detergent dispenser was just too cool. I looked all over for that box at the sale and couldn't find it. I didn't buy the washer but I did get my Ironrite there and a friend of mine now owns the house.

Good to see it again - congrats on a rather rare machine.
 
Looks like I've got a bunch of questions to answer...

I wasn't online at all yesterday, so I'm sorry I missed a few questions.

Yes, the machine was in service, but the house it was in was a rental and I don't know how long it had been empty. The woodgrain looks like it has some clear-coat peeling going on, which I've never seen before.

Bob - The detergent dispenser is timed and timer operated in the main wash cycles. The bleach is a regular hose-to-tub version, and the softener dispenser was agitator mounted.

As to over-soapers - I don't know if they were or not, I haven't removed the basket to see if there is any residue (or how much) in the outer tub. They were definitely careless with it though, as it was on every horizontal surface.

These machines were energy savers for their time - they even re-designed the mixing valve back then to use 50/50 hot and cold mixes, vs. the previous 60/40, which saved hot water use. Any machine I have that has an original valve is noticeably warmer...

Andy - YES, lol I want that other panel. You are still very much THE MAN! I'll put the second machine back together then I'll see which one calls to me loudest, and will offer the other to the club.

Thanks for all the comments folks - I like this rare machine!

Gordon
 
MickeyD.....

Dude, I missed one of your questions! :-(

The spin increment you're talking about in the timer was an evolutionary change made to all Kenmores in the first half of the 70s. This even affected some (not all) replacement timers for earlier machines. Instead of a two-minute first spin with sprays followed by a 2 minute regular spin before the rinse, the second 2-minute spin was eliminated in favor of a longer neutral drain period, to allow machines just like this one (with the biggest tub and slowest pump) to fully empty before they start to spin.

As an example, my 1972 Kenmore 60-series (I haven't talked much about it here) is a standard cap. machine with the old-configuration spins. It drains for two minutes then gets on with it and goes into spin. That same timer was used in a large capacity machine in 1973, and I am sure that in some machines with a long or up-hill drain hose, they used more than 2 minutes to drain. So, the machine was left trying to spin partially filled (TOUGH on a BD).

Replacement timers for both those machines now sub to a new version with shorter spin and more idle time, which eliminates the flooded spin. This also lessens wear on the centerpost bearings from essentially unnecessary spin time.

As to the spin speed, the large cap BDs actually spin a tiny bit slower in RPMs than the standard machines, BUT what most fail to consider here is that the larger diameter of the tub causes a significant enough increase in centrifical forse to extract BETTER than a standard tub model. WP even states this in their introduction of the 18lb. machines to the technicians in the late 60s.

Gordon
 
80s KENMORE belt drives

Hi Gordon, I've been trying to reach you. Do you still want the 1980 kenmore washer I have for you? Please give me a call or email me,and congratulations on your kenmores! Very best regards,Walt (585)735-5889
 

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