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Hi Veg
I want to wish you luck on your "quest" and hope you find happiness. Of course, you have this club and friends, so you already have a measure of happiness, right?
Make yourself available, but don't look too hard...love will find you when you least expect it. ;-)
Rich
 
2 LAYER CAKE

Only 2 layers, but I made both of 'em extra tall by using slighly larger proportions throughout the recipe (5 eggs, for example) and also adding 1 teaspoon gluten to give it good body. That's a Pineapple Carrot cake that I had just baked from scratch.
I also put icing under the bottom cake, so there's icing in 3 places. None on the sides makes it easier to get the cover on and off without getting icing inside the lid,,,and also allows you to see the carrots and nuts and raisins.

The point of it is - just because I can...like that guy on Mad TV....look what I can do..look what I can do...hehehe.

Bob
 
Veg

Here's my 2c (or 2p if you're British)

If I... a person who never was good at meeting girls, much less even asking them out, can do it, so can you.

Yes, I used Eharmony but I am straight. I don't know nuttin' about the gay scene but like I said. I thought *I* was the aw.org loser until finally found Helen.
 
I think the internet thing (I've never used it) can help take a lot of the pressure off.

I'm grappling with depression-related issues and am wondering if I'll ever get a chance to try it...:(
 
Unfortunately, gaylosers.com isn't a valid web address

ROLMFAO! I can not believe you put that!

Get you butt back over to Indy and we'll go man-hunting!

Just remember all the heartaches that you go through happen for a reason. When the time is right it will happen.
Send me their profiles before you meet them. If they make it past inspection... Well you know.

XO
 
Bethann, I need someone in my court like you too.

VEG, if bears r what your seeking, I'll let ya know where all I have profiles.

ralph, you speak so much truth about the bear community, for all those reasons and more, that's why I am glad I am one. But a lot of what makes us appealing and loveable, many of us still grapple with self-esteem issues because of "them". I know what I have got and think I"m basically pretty adoreable on the inside, but obviously I'm not many bears' "cup o' tea".
 
God bless Am....

.... i mean God bless Bears!!!!!

Aren't we just so warm and cuddly!!!

Very impressed in the amount of warmth, support and love this thread has generated from everyone. And all brought together by laundry equipment.

Love from the "Automatic Washer Bears Birmingham Fraternity"
 
for Kelly,

I've been reading and re-reading your post about "love with a lid"
I've been trying to apply those words to myself, and my own recent situation. Could you explain how or what you did differently that changed things for you?
I'm thinking I'm too much like that, I "run with it" as you say and I'd like to know what you did to not.
Thanks in advance
Jeff
 
I got a response!

From a guy who thinks I'm someone else!

Oh, this was SUCH a &*#!!(&ing good idea!

Next step: run up to Jessup and hang around the prison!

(Well, at least my sense of humor is starting to come back. Though I'm really not kidding about hanging around the prison...)

veg
 
Hnaging around a Prison...

Now Veg why would you want to go all the way out to Jessup when you've got the SuperMax right there on the JFX? ...lol..j/k. I am glad to see your sense of humor is coming back :) Don't worry I am sure it is going to get better for you.

Chris
 
Matty, it's not if someone has a hairy chest. There are other attributes that aren't physical. It also entails the heart and outlook and attitude (or lack thereof). But you have the moniker as it fitws you (remember pic of you on beach) as well as others. Bob

And Peter in Edinburgh, ...
 
Love With a Lid

Jeff
I met a gentlemen from SilverDaddies. My friends and therapist were bugging me to start dating and to have sex. I had been married 28 years. I finally connected with this guy and he said, "I am never going to be in a relationship, I'm never coming out, some day I will have to get married, but I have learned this is just another way to express sexuality." I figured he was cheaper than a surrogate and I had to start somewhere. He was nice, I was green and boy did I have a lot of work to do to be present during sex and do the mental work of changing it to a thing of joy.
We met in July, I had surgery and diagnosis of terminal cancer in Septemeber. I figured the chances of finding love were out the window, but at least I had this opportunity to be with a nice guy and have physical contact. In October he hestitated a bit and then said, "I have no idea where this is coming from, but I love you from the bottom of my heart." The world, for me began to change, as the only the real thing I ever wanted to know in this life time, was love.
However, he was still never coming out or getting into a larger expression of relationship. Everytime he said I love you or suggested travel together or buying a house etc, my mind would run with it and I was sure it meant he was coming out. After a year of this, in frustration I said, "Our relationship is defined by sex. I only see you when the lights are off." (Not true, but I wanted dramatic effect) It almost ended the relationship because it demeaned his real love for me, which is at considerable risk. When I was able to love with a lid on it or no future it all began to change. Not expecting that any expression of affection or time spent together to mean anything more than that, he was freed to shower me with time, accessibility, gifts and togetherness because he was not afraid I would rush to conclusion that pushed him to a place outside his comfort zone. By just accepting, supporting and loving from a neutral position our love has deepened 10 fold and I know see him 3 times more. We date, meet for lunch and he is spending more and more time here, because he is free to do so. We both are free to love.
Kelly
 
...and Peter in Edinburgh....

What? Am I missing something? Yes Lack of attitude is a large part of the culture but also not without issues. Some take it morw seriously than others and have in a way, segregated themselves from the gay community. Sad really.

Matty, what is this about a photo of you on the beach????? did I miss that??

Peter
 
Love with a Lid

Jeff,
To make sure you have the proper chronology, we met in July 05 and the shift to, Love with a Lid was in October 06. I was the sickest I have ever been following my last week of chemo. It was so comforting to have him here. I will always be grateful I set him free, because I gained freedom in the process.
Kelly
 
Thanks Kelly

I had kinda figured that was what you meant. Your words have great meaning for me, as I see now that I'm a "run with it" kinda guy myself. I don't know that I necessarily mean to, just a natural reaction.
Thanks for the help. it is much appreciated.
Jeff
 
Update

Too old for one guy.

Too ugly for another.

Surprised? Let me see a show of hands... None.

In desperation, I joined manhunt which seems to be pretty much just a meatmarket.

I figured out the D/D means drug and disease, but what the heck does D/L mean? PNP?

veg
 

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