rexaircollector
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Now there are 2 Artichokes
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Plain and simple............
I like it just the way that it is. <br
I have never felt discriminated here, even though I am a minority here (a woman and hetero, as well as being in my mid 30's). Everyone answers my appliance questions with the respect that each of us deserve and expect. Yes, occassionally there are a few "whackos" that come and post (and thankfully leave), but for the most part, it's perfect. Some people may prefer older appliances above newer appliances but that's the beauty of this site, everyone is different and unique. In the end, it's you that you have to be happy with and if you are not happy with yourself, then go away until you get to that "special place". Otherwise you will just expect the world to revolve around your wants and needs and guess what? It's not going to happen. <br
I wanted to pick D for artichoke but I love artichokes so I am picking C, since I do that quite often while driving!
I like it just the way that it is. <br
I have never felt discriminated here, even though I am a minority here (a woman and hetero, as well as being in my mid 30's). Everyone answers my appliance questions with the respect that each of us deserve and expect. Yes, occassionally there are a few "whackos" that come and post (and thankfully leave), but for the most part, it's perfect. Some people may prefer older appliances above newer appliances but that's the beauty of this site, everyone is different and unique. In the end, it's you that you have to be happy with and if you are not happy with yourself, then go away until you get to that "special place". Otherwise you will just expect the world to revolve around your wants and needs and guess what? It's not going to happen. <br
I wanted to pick D for artichoke but I love artichokes so I am picking C, since I do that quite often while driving!
andrewinorlando
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You know, Louis makes an excellent point, folks....before dreaming up ways to change this site, please consider the time its creator has to put into maintaining and making those changes. Having done this myself, it's no easy or simple task....it's time consuming, requires much programming and testing to get it right and then maintain. It's truly a labor of love, 'cause he sure ain't gettin' paid for it! <br
So let's keep on enjoying it, and appreciate what we do have here. We don't always have to agree (and God knows we don't), but we can at least show our appreciation by respecting Robert's time. Erik, I know you didn't mean anything derogatory by your e-mail, but you sure could have written it a lot nicer!
So let's keep on enjoying it, and appreciate what we do have here. We don't always have to agree (and God knows we don't), but we can at least show our appreciation by respecting Robert's time. Erik, I know you didn't mean anything derogatory by your e-mail, but you sure could have written it a lot nicer!
<i>The intent of the letter stands and I STILL have not had answers to the questions.</i
I don't believe I ever did gave any specific reasons for stopping the archiving of the Super Forum, just like I didn't give any specific reasons for removing the background wallpaper from the Super Forum postings, just like I didn't give any specific reason for recently changing the code to prevent Google or any other search engine from crawling and listing posts out of the Super Forum. I had my reasons for doing all three and they were all related to one another. I believe my reasons for making those change are prudent to the long term health of the site as well as my reason for not discussing my decision about them openly was also prudent. I have told a few select people exactly why I decided to do that and they have agreed with my reasoning as well, that's good enough for me. So in other words, it’s staying exactly as it is and no further explanation is necessary <br
<i> Otherwise the way the site is set up now it is discriminatory.</i
I don’t agree with that <br
<i> Or if we don't want to provide a forum for people to ask service questions, post on the front page that we are not a free advice giving site.</i
Boy you do have some nerve don’t you, what’s this “WE” shit, I’m the one who has to do all the work. And for your information I would never post something like that on the front page, that’s even more rude than the tone of you original email <br
<i> Lately, there has been blatant false information handed out, especially in the pink forum.</i
Like <br
<i> Also, I don't believe there is an area of the site that gives credit to those members who have put together the site. It would be nice to know for whom we all should be giving credit.</i
Well let’s see
I researched how to create a website and thought myself how to do it
I thought myself Perl, JavaScript and HTML so I could write the site
I designed the site from scratch,
I wrote the code from scratch because all the canned programs I thought were boring and I wanted this site to stand out and be special,
I scanned and put together everything you see on the site
I maintained and continue to this day to do the work of maintaining this site 24/7/365
I funded 100% of the costs to run this site out of my own pocket, with the following exceptions
1. One year I asked for donations to pay the server fees, which covered most of the fees but it was more trouble that it was worth so I never asked again, it’s just easier for me to pay for it, and..
2. For about three years the videos of the site (this is in the pre-YouTube days) were stored on another server and paid mainly by Jon Charles (Jetcone), Glen (Dadoes) also contributed financially to the video site at the end. But now since bandwidth has become so much cheaper, everything is simply stored on the aw.org server, which as you see is paid for 100% by me <br
So my point is there is no need for a button giving credit, because I have no desire to ring my own bell so to speak <br
But truly the real credit of the success of this site goes out to all of it’s members and how they contribute to the site with the postings in all three forums, without that this site would be absolutely nothing more than a bunch of videos and pictures of vintage washers <br
Now I’m done with all this, and by the way everyone, I sure do appreciate everyone’s help with dealing with people like this. This is the kind of help I REALLY do need in running this site as I really do not have the time nor the desire to deal with crap like this
I don't believe I ever did gave any specific reasons for stopping the archiving of the Super Forum, just like I didn't give any specific reasons for removing the background wallpaper from the Super Forum postings, just like I didn't give any specific reason for recently changing the code to prevent Google or any other search engine from crawling and listing posts out of the Super Forum. I had my reasons for doing all three and they were all related to one another. I believe my reasons for making those change are prudent to the long term health of the site as well as my reason for not discussing my decision about them openly was also prudent. I have told a few select people exactly why I decided to do that and they have agreed with my reasoning as well, that's good enough for me. So in other words, it’s staying exactly as it is and no further explanation is necessary <br
<i> Otherwise the way the site is set up now it is discriminatory.</i
I don’t agree with that <br
<i> Or if we don't want to provide a forum for people to ask service questions, post on the front page that we are not a free advice giving site.</i
Boy you do have some nerve don’t you, what’s this “WE” shit, I’m the one who has to do all the work. And for your information I would never post something like that on the front page, that’s even more rude than the tone of you original email <br
<i> Lately, there has been blatant false information handed out, especially in the pink forum.</i
Like <br
<i> Also, I don't believe there is an area of the site that gives credit to those members who have put together the site. It would be nice to know for whom we all should be giving credit.</i
Well let’s see
I researched how to create a website and thought myself how to do it
I thought myself Perl, JavaScript and HTML so I could write the site
I designed the site from scratch,
I wrote the code from scratch because all the canned programs I thought were boring and I wanted this site to stand out and be special,
I scanned and put together everything you see on the site
I maintained and continue to this day to do the work of maintaining this site 24/7/365
I funded 100% of the costs to run this site out of my own pocket, with the following exceptions
1. One year I asked for donations to pay the server fees, which covered most of the fees but it was more trouble that it was worth so I never asked again, it’s just easier for me to pay for it, and..
2. For about three years the videos of the site (this is in the pre-YouTube days) were stored on another server and paid mainly by Jon Charles (Jetcone), Glen (Dadoes) also contributed financially to the video site at the end. But now since bandwidth has become so much cheaper, everything is simply stored on the aw.org server, which as you see is paid for 100% by me <br
So my point is there is no need for a button giving credit, because I have no desire to ring my own bell so to speak <br
But truly the real credit of the success of this site goes out to all of it’s members and how they contribute to the site with the postings in all three forums, without that this site would be absolutely nothing more than a bunch of videos and pictures of vintage washers <br
Now I’m done with all this, and by the way everyone, I sure do appreciate everyone’s help with dealing with people like this. This is the kind of help I REALLY do need in running this site as I really do not have the time nor the desire to deal with crap like this
Nor should you have to!
I just read through this whole issue and I just don't get it... This site is just great and I truly enjoy the content. The way I see it if there are members who don't like the content, then let them go elsewhere
Robert, I appreciate all the time and effort that you have put in to it and I say don't change a thing!
Oh yeah, the hollandaise sauce recipe would be the perfect thing to serve on mr. artichoke!!
I just read through this whole issue and I just don't get it... This site is just great and I truly enjoy the content. The way I see it if there are members who don't like the content, then let them go elsewhere
Robert, I appreciate all the time and effort that you have put in to it and I say don't change a thing!
Oh yeah, the hollandaise sauce recipe would be the perfect thing to serve on mr. artichoke!!
Oh dear... Looks like I am too late to vote, but I'm glad there is PLENTY of artichoke dip left...
It looks like somone is unclear on the concept. For many of us, the great dream was to finally be able to see, touch and use the appliances that fascinated us in our youth. I do not believe that dividing the discussions into two broad time bands is discriminatory. It gives the site some chronological organization and it provides a great opportunity for younger members to have a forum devoted to what they remember about appliances as they grew up and a place to share those experiences with some of us older and more feeble members, who yes, might have caught the brass ring, a few gold rings and other precious treasures, but remember that grabbing the brass ring got you another ride for free. In the Turquoise forum, we also discuss today's machines both domestic and foreign and a person's age is totally irrelevant for that. Just because everyone does not share an interest in a type of appliance or a brand of appliance or a time period does not mean disrespect nor does it constitute discrimination against the person or appliance. How is everyone having different interests discriminatory? It would be a boring, as well as cutthroat, club if everyone liked the same thing. Thanks to the discussions devoted to older appliances many younger members have been able to read about and see the marvels of design that were introduced 50 to 60 years. A completely unexpected stroke of good fortune because of the club was the discovery that there was interest in our appliances by people almost all over the world. They have shared information about the history of appliances in their countries and, in some cases, have been able to come to our gatherings and then became regular visitors with members here which has resulted in many great friendships as well as international detergent smuggling. The same is true for the members here who visit with friends & members in other countries. Even people who have never met have come to feel that they have friendships with certain members and a welcoming community. The ability of non-members to post questions to us has resulted in some wonderful appliance finds and transactions that added to our various collections. <br
I am glad that I do not have to wade through some vast forum spanning 60 years to find a member's account of an amazingly fortunate find, nor do I think it's improper to separate major appliances from smaller appliances. I like the fact that I can share my interest in housewares and small electrics with others and that we do not have to go searching all over the site because we know we have the yellow forum for that. Why do we need to make the vacuum collectors' site one with ours? What about the equally fascinating sites for collectors of beautiful mixers and irons? We can share our vacuum, mixer, etc. acquisitions triumphs within the proper forum here and are equally free to join groups that specialize in vacuums, mixers, irons and other items that are of no less value than washing machines, dryers and dishwashers. I like cookware and pressure cookers as do some other members, but we don't feel slighted by discussing them in the yellow sandbox which is not a joke or something disgusting like yellow snow <br
But beyond this and just as important is that you or any member feels shut out or slighted. I did not know about it, nor did I mean to do it except that it sometimes happens when I start discussing those damn bounties on the wanted dead or alive lists. Those can really work against all of our members. As for comparing newer appliances with old, I believe Consumer Reports set a precedent for comparison when they compared the newer GE to the original model and noted the features that were no longer offered. I miss fluorescent lights, germicidal lamps and fewer opportunities to indulge in dial pushing, although we are finding ways to thwart the manufacturers on that also. In 1985, IIRC, when John and I toured the Henry Ford Museum with other members of his family, we noticed that it sort of stopped short of our period of collecting in many areas, roughly at the end of Ford's ability to build his collection. Johns said at that time that to make the then only dreamed of museum and club continue into the future, young members would have to be exposed to the wonders of the older appliances by having a place to see them operate and the marvelous appliances from more recent times would have to be given space and consideration as well, otherwise it dies with us. It's like the ancient wooden washing machines and the wooden dishwasher at the Ford Museum; interesting, but not things I would want. On the other hand, the vacuum coffee makers that I was collecting in the early 1960s sort of swept through the club once people saw the beautiful shapes, watched the drama and tasted the coffee they produced. I waited years to find my first Coffee Master and today, they, as well as almost every type of vacuum coffee maker, are available on the Internet for all interested parties. <br
I do not see how a genuine enthusiast needs to put down someone or any type of appliance to feel secure about his or her own appliances. I would be intereted in seeing some of the language from which you inferred that this was a group that was unwelcoming to younger members. Hell, if you know anything, you know that a group that was started by gay men would be sensitive to alienating people. Furthermore, whether you are gay or straight, you would have to know that gay men appreciate many definitions of beauty and that hardly anyone would be made to feel unwelcome because they are younger or older, male or female. I do not understand how one can say that we have not welcomed anyone who has shown an interest in appliances and who has not engaged in poor behavior. I thought that, in general, we all got along, found enough flexibility to discuss our interests and had great fun together.
I am glad that I do not have to wade through some vast forum spanning 60 years to find a member's account of an amazingly fortunate find, nor do I think it's improper to separate major appliances from smaller appliances. I like the fact that I can share my interest in housewares and small electrics with others and that we do not have to go searching all over the site because we know we have the yellow forum for that. Why do we need to make the vacuum collectors' site one with ours? What about the equally fascinating sites for collectors of beautiful mixers and irons? We can share our vacuum, mixer, etc. acquisitions triumphs within the proper forum here and are equally free to join groups that specialize in vacuums, mixers, irons and other items that are of no less value than washing machines, dryers and dishwashers. I like cookware and pressure cookers as do some other members, but we don't feel slighted by discussing them in the yellow sandbox which is not a joke or something disgusting like yellow snow <br
But beyond this and just as important is that you or any member feels shut out or slighted. I did not know about it, nor did I mean to do it except that it sometimes happens when I start discussing those damn bounties on the wanted dead or alive lists. Those can really work against all of our members. As for comparing newer appliances with old, I believe Consumer Reports set a precedent for comparison when they compared the newer GE to the original model and noted the features that were no longer offered. I miss fluorescent lights, germicidal lamps and fewer opportunities to indulge in dial pushing, although we are finding ways to thwart the manufacturers on that also. In 1985, IIRC, when John and I toured the Henry Ford Museum with other members of his family, we noticed that it sort of stopped short of our period of collecting in many areas, roughly at the end of Ford's ability to build his collection. Johns said at that time that to make the then only dreamed of museum and club continue into the future, young members would have to be exposed to the wonders of the older appliances by having a place to see them operate and the marvelous appliances from more recent times would have to be given space and consideration as well, otherwise it dies with us. It's like the ancient wooden washing machines and the wooden dishwasher at the Ford Museum; interesting, but not things I would want. On the other hand, the vacuum coffee makers that I was collecting in the early 1960s sort of swept through the club once people saw the beautiful shapes, watched the drama and tasted the coffee they produced. I waited years to find my first Coffee Master and today, they, as well as almost every type of vacuum coffee maker, are available on the Internet for all interested parties. <br
I do not see how a genuine enthusiast needs to put down someone or any type of appliance to feel secure about his or her own appliances. I would be intereted in seeing some of the language from which you inferred that this was a group that was unwelcoming to younger members. Hell, if you know anything, you know that a group that was started by gay men would be sensitive to alienating people. Furthermore, whether you are gay or straight, you would have to know that gay men appreciate many definitions of beauty and that hardly anyone would be made to feel unwelcome because they are younger or older, male or female. I do not understand how one can say that we have not welcomed anyone who has shown an interest in appliances and who has not engaged in poor behavior. I thought that, in general, we all got along, found enough flexibility to discuss our interests and had great fun together.
mickeyd
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Hi Robert, I hope all is going well with you
Say, I was just wondering why you don't just shut this whole site down. Don't you thing it is agonizing for us to realize and admit every single day how much smarter you are than the rest of us who would not even know where to begin to start up something this big--all the parts involved in this huge enterprise. It's mind boggling and humiliating for us poor sorry bastards who wouldn't know a megabyte from anal wart <br
Also, you're way too handsome to be such a computer geek. You have the most perfect arms of anyone in the club. It just isn't fair to all of us pudgy pale couch potatoes who sit home sniffling over our Tupperware and Procter-Silicies. <br
Worse you show up in the picture thread in your basement or kitchen squatting and barefoot, so unimaginably beautiful and sexy that we can't breathe, ugly warted toadies that we poor pitiful slobs are! Ahhhrgg <br
And you've got to stop being 40 when most of us in the club are well into our sixties. It's too painful to see you bounding all over Minneapolis, working all day, tweaking machines all night and running this site, going to the gym, estating and clubbing on weekends, making a home for gladys and Neil--why is too exhausting while we sit home arthritic, wheezing, and taking enemas and penile implant <br
You're too much of a personIST and I'm going somewhere grayer <br
Goodbye, Robert, you're just too much for me
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Say, I was just wondering why you don't just shut this whole site down. Don't you thing it is agonizing for us to realize and admit every single day how much smarter you are than the rest of us who would not even know where to begin to start up something this big--all the parts involved in this huge enterprise. It's mind boggling and humiliating for us poor sorry bastards who wouldn't know a megabyte from anal wart <br
Also, you're way too handsome to be such a computer geek. You have the most perfect arms of anyone in the club. It just isn't fair to all of us pudgy pale couch potatoes who sit home sniffling over our Tupperware and Procter-Silicies. <br
Worse you show up in the picture thread in your basement or kitchen squatting and barefoot, so unimaginably beautiful and sexy that we can't breathe, ugly warted toadies that we poor pitiful slobs are! Ahhhrgg <br
And you've got to stop being 40 when most of us in the club are well into our sixties. It's too painful to see you bounding all over Minneapolis, working all day, tweaking machines all night and running this site, going to the gym, estating and clubbing on weekends, making a home for gladys and Neil--why is too exhausting while we sit home arthritic, wheezing, and taking enemas and penile implant <br
You're too much of a personIST and I'm going somewhere grayer <br
Goodbye, Robert, you're just too much for me
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bethann
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OMG Mike!
You seriously have me laughing so hard I'm ready to pee my pants <br
He is hot!
You seriously have me laughing so hard I'm ready to pee my pants <br
He is hot!
mickeyd
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thank you, Gorgeous
Just send the wet panties to Veg
Just send the wet panties to Veg
Ugh, Mike you are really tooooooooo much LOL. I think I might need to get out the boots and it's a good thing that I can wash them in the Whirlpool Combo with 220 volt boosted hot water!
~sudsshane
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Mike
you are too much..LO <br
=)
you are too much..LO <br
=)
Wow...we love the site like it is, and it's rather apropos that the one making the squawk was the only person who's ever said something we considered rude in reply to one of our posts. This is obviously a case of "Consider the source." <br
While we aren't part of the "inner circle" around here, we truly enjoy the humor and love that are so abundant here, and of course, the vintage eye-candy that seems to spring from out of nowhere to delight us. We also try to contribute by pointing out goodies for sale when we find 'em. We got our Maytags because of y'all, and our KDS-20, as well. Don't change a damn thing, Mr. Robert, sir. ;-)
While we aren't part of the "inner circle" around here, we truly enjoy the humor and love that are so abundant here, and of course, the vintage eye-candy that seems to spring from out of nowhere to delight us. We also try to contribute by pointing out goodies for sale when we find 'em. We got our Maytags because of y'all, and our KDS-20, as well. Don't change a damn thing, Mr. Robert, sir. ;-)
mickeyd
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Don't taunt me with the mentionof that fabulous Whirlpoo
It's the only front loader I'll ever want, and only because of the jetstream <br
You said Ugh but I hope you laughed <br
Thanks, Shan
Wait.....what am i still doing here. I'm going where the grass is grayer. Can't you guys take an I'm quitting threat seriously.
It's the only front loader I'll ever want, and only because of the jetstream <br
You said Ugh but I hope you laughed <br
Thanks, Shan
Wait.....what am i still doing here. I'm going where the grass is grayer. Can't you guys take an I'm quitting threat seriously.
<i>You said Ugh but I hope you laughed. </i <br
Of coursed I laughed, you are fabulous <br
***smiles at Mike***
Of coursed I laughed, you are fabulous <br
***smiles at Mike***
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ok~ lets try and put a positive spin on this shall we?
Robert~ you have my full and complete admiration for the time and effort you put into AW.org
Erik~ while I don't agree with most of your points in the email, I do believe your intent was not to insult Robert. I admire your courage in coming out and taking ownership of your words. I think Robert may have been more peeved with the tone of your letter that he was with some of your suggestions
Keven~ Your postings are always so insightful and I learn so much from them. Thank You
Heather~ I am glad you feel comfortable here, but please don't think of yourself as a minority. We are first and foremost human beings and age or race or gender should never be a factor in determining one's worth here
MikeD~ Your posts crack me up. Sometimes I don't get your humor like in the above posting,but your presense especially at times like this is needed
Bundtboy~ what would AW.org be without Bob and his bundtcakes <br <br
So my point is that yes, Robert is right. The people on this site add to the fun and excitement that is AW.org. We are different people in many ways. We come from different lifestyles,socio-economical backgrounds and have varying political opinions
But first and foremost, we are all human beings that happen to love appliances,vintage or modern.I believe in the end, this is what bonds us <br
Have a great day everyone...=)
Robert~ you have my full and complete admiration for the time and effort you put into AW.org
Erik~ while I don't agree with most of your points in the email, I do believe your intent was not to insult Robert. I admire your courage in coming out and taking ownership of your words. I think Robert may have been more peeved with the tone of your letter that he was with some of your suggestions
Keven~ Your postings are always so insightful and I learn so much from them. Thank You
Heather~ I am glad you feel comfortable here, but please don't think of yourself as a minority. We are first and foremost human beings and age or race or gender should never be a factor in determining one's worth here
MikeD~ Your posts crack me up. Sometimes I don't get your humor like in the above posting,but your presense especially at times like this is needed
Bundtboy~ what would AW.org be without Bob and his bundtcakes <br <br
So my point is that yes, Robert is right. The people on this site add to the fun and excitement that is AW.org. We are different people in many ways. We come from different lifestyles,socio-economical backgrounds and have varying political opinions
But first and foremost, we are all human beings that happen to love appliances,vintage or modern.I believe in the end, this is what bonds us <br
Have a great day everyone...=)
danemodsandy
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Thanks to Robert (and Fred Nelson):
There may be those with reservations about this or that around here, but I have to say that I've enjoyed both the sense of community here, and the practical advice. Same goes for Vacuumland. Thanks to the info and tips on both sites, I have replaced several problematic modern appliances with durable, reliable vintage ones. I know where to get parts and supplies for anything that might go wrong, and I know who I can turn to for repair advice. I'm more self-sufficient than before; I do not have to worry that the mysterious ailments of new appliances will cost me Big Bucks, because I can handle most things that could happen to my vintage appliances myself <br
This site and Vacuumland have saved me money, made me friends, and brought me peace of mind. You can't ask more than that of some HTML, or the intentions of these sites' creators. Thanks Robert, and thanks to Fred as well.
There may be those with reservations about this or that around here, but I have to say that I've enjoyed both the sense of community here, and the practical advice. Same goes for Vacuumland. Thanks to the info and tips on both sites, I have replaced several problematic modern appliances with durable, reliable vintage ones. I know where to get parts and supplies for anything that might go wrong, and I know who I can turn to for repair advice. I'm more self-sufficient than before; I do not have to worry that the mysterious ailments of new appliances will cost me Big Bucks, because I can handle most things that could happen to my vintage appliances myself <br
This site and Vacuumland have saved me money, made me friends, and brought me peace of mind. You can't ask more than that of some HTML, or the intentions of these sites' creators. Thanks Robert, and thanks to Fred as well.
mickeyd
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Shane, your usual razor intellect is off today.
Washertalk, whom I like except for his scraggly puritan beard, which is shaped like a turnip, and who is really funny, says in his email that this site is mainly for 50 and 60 year olds and :" If this is your primary audience, please let me know. I will find greener grass elsewhere. " Hence the satirical: I'm going where the grass is grayer, etc, <br
People always threaten to leave, and then they stay which always amuses me <br
No one's going to stop anyone from leaving.
Why would anyone want to leave?
Younger guys think the theat is meaningful; older guys know better. No one cares <br
I hope Washertalk stays.
Washertalk, whom I like except for his scraggly puritan beard, which is shaped like a turnip, and who is really funny, says in his email that this site is mainly for 50 and 60 year olds and :" If this is your primary audience, please let me know. I will find greener grass elsewhere. " Hence the satirical: I'm going where the grass is grayer, etc, <br
People always threaten to leave, and then they stay which always amuses me <br
No one's going to stop anyone from leaving.
Why would anyone want to leave?
Younger guys think the theat is meaningful; older guys know better. No one cares <br
I hope Washertalk stays.
Damn! And all this time I thought I had megabytes...
~sudsshane
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Shane, your usual razor intellect is off today.
I know, it's called 'brain fog" lol
I know, it's called 'brain fog" lol
