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jamiel

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Pshaw. Bad week with the dishwasher down and both cars laid up....anyway.

Have had a 100 series (plastic bottom) Bosch 2 rack for the last 12 or so years in Detroit. Been quite happy with it. White front control....cheap and cheerful

Returned from vacation to an E01 error. This tracks back to either heater or control board fault with pump. Disinclined to have a likely $200 fix on a $650 dishwasher.

Also will likely re-do the kitchen in the next couple years (celebrating our 20th year in the house). Not sure what the decor will be (alas).

Inclined toward another cheap white Bosch unless anyone has a good alternative. They have de-contented them pretty drastically (no longer a time display on the front panel--only 3 LEDs (>2h, <1-2>h, <1h). Consumer Reports still likes them, but NY Times Wirecutter claims they're not what they used to be and is recommending Miele or Maytag. Don't want to pre-suppose what our decor will be by choosing black or stainless (which opens up more options).

We put an 800 series Bosch in with the 3rd rack in Palm Springs...I don't like it any better than the 12 year old cheapo one....

The 100 series is available from Lowes with 2 day delivery--anything more ambitious (Maytag/KA) has a longer lead time.

Combined with both cars being in the shop (keeping me from visiting the stores) I'm struggling with ideas. Would love nothing more than just to sling one in the back of the station wagon and be done with it...
 
Best available dishwashers would definitely be the high-end KitchenAid and any Maytag dishwasher. I would definitely get one with the self cleaning power filter so you don’t have the messy filter that has to be removed and cleaned occasionally.

There have been several reviews over the last two years here on this site where people got these dishwasher not only do they hold a lot more dishes, but they do an outstanding job Eugene in Cleveland got one Mike electric country got one that he loves in Michigan and several other folks my partner, Jason just bought one about six months ago and loves it so far.

If you’re gonna go for a cheap dishwasher, I wouldn’t get an expensive Bosch, in fact, I would get the cheap whirlpool or Amana if you’re just trying to buy time, or of course, why don’t you just fix the one you have for a few years if you’re planning to do a kitchen remodel.

John L
 
The current 100 series should be pretty similar to your old 100 series one.

I personally wouldn't get one with the plastic bottom tub.
Those once were known to have issues with becoming leaky - but that apparently hasn't really been the case recently. They probably all have pump issues sooner than that.

Going higher gives better noise performance mainly.
Unless you go really high end and get a CrystalDry model - that gives you another level of drying performance.


However at lower price points, I don't see why a Maytag wouldn't suit the situation either.
The new Whirlpool wash system has been quite good for most people as well.
Not quite as efficient, but nothing horrendous either (unless you talk 1h cycle - the usage of the WP 1h cycle is just stupid...).
 
Honestly, a MOL Whirlpool or BOL KitchenAid would be great for most. The design with removable filter is more reliable and still does great. If you wan TOL, the KA machines with microclean filter have been decent. Though a large number of people will be hard pressed to find differences other than 3rd rack. We love ours and it has never skipped a beat, but does have very small little rust spots I’m not thrilled about.
 
I'd just get another 100 (ascenta) and call it a day.. Ours is 6 or so years old now but I did have that pinhole leak in the sump hose whenever it drained. I bought the part and fixed it myself. That was a bit disappointing to have happen. No one else I know with a Bosch has had it happen. my luck. Don't know why people bitch on the plastic bottom, it's never been of concern to me. why would it?
 
Whenever other alternatives exist most Europeans consider anything plastic inferior, cheap and tacky. Be it dishwasher tubs, Tupperware containers or God forbid plastic tumblers (yuck).
Plastic attracts oils and soil and can emit nasties like plasticizers whereas stainless steel and glass are considered clean.
We`ve had plastic interior dish washers too but they vanished from the marked in the 1970s. The cost cutting plastic bottoms we see now again is a step back not everyone is happy to see.
Call it cultural differences. LOL
 
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