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Pretty pleased, everything including the 5 day dried in ketchup was gone completely.

There was one little jibble of soaked meat residue in the airfryer basket.
Keep in mind though that I had the basket insert in the outer part AND that was in the upper rack AND basicly within that basket I had loaded one of the porcelain bowls so it was totaly shielded from every direct spray.

Couldn't catch the displayed usage, but since it didn't do the water softener recharge it was about 12-14l and 1-1.2kWh from a cold water feed.
 
 
Not much of a BobLoad® but it's what I had for this morning.

Pics 1, 2, 3, 4 is not debris in the plastic container, it's a bit of melting.  Employees sometime bring lunch from home and leave the containers (sometimes dirty) in the stockroom.  I snatch them after several weeks of negligence.  (A chlorine bleach soak is applied if needed).

The drain filter is from the lower drawer.  I clean them when needed by running through a cycle.

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Cleaning the filter

Wow Glenn, what a great idea, here I've been manually cleaning the filter with liquid dish soap and a forceful blast of hot water with the sprayer. Your method easy with a 2 drawer Dish Drawer. Lately I've been noticing how people around me are so smart! Others can have a better solution. Now I just need to remember this next time!
 
DaDoes - I'm not sure if I've made this remark before, but I LOVE those stoneware plates you have. My Mamaw and Papaw always had that exact plate and pattern, and everytime I see your dishwasher full, I have a little spark of joy thinking about them. I have no idea where those dishes went after they passed away back in 2011 and 2012. I'm actually working on building up a collection of the Mountain Brook(?) stoneware and the classic Corelle and Corning dishware they and some of my family had growing up.
 
Stereo WP Power-Clean DWs

Well being home and cooking and eating at home a lot a funny thing happened Sunday, I noticed that I was running out of glasses and forks and spoons etc. With two DWs I usually load one and unload the other but some how I loaded DW#2 and never ran it and now DW#1 was nearly full as well.

 

So last evening at exactly 9:15 I started both DWs, they are 14 feet apart, so I start one than the other and I go back and pause the 1st one for 5 seconds to get them synchronized, then you get to sit back and listen as they both go through the cycle in perfect synchronization.

 

Both DWs are pleasantly quite but you can still hear what is happening [ I would NEVER have a silent DW as it is actually dangerous ] I had a customer 12 years ago with a Bosch DW that the fill valve stuck open on. The customer had an instantaneous gas water heater and it flooded the basement apartment with more than 12" of all hot water, the DW continued to fill for almost 6 hours. Finally the fire&smoke alarms went off and woke her up, even though her bedroom was less than 12 feet away from the DW she said she never heard a thing. I told her that the Bosch was an easy fix as it was just a bad fill valve, she said Hell-NO get me a DW that you can hear so in went one of the last of the KM power-clean style DWs. [ The Bosch did over $60,000 worth of damage to the house as all the water was hot and the steam destroyed even the drywall on the basement ceilings ]

 

But back to the Stereo WPs, both DWs finished at 10:10 PM and started into the air-dry cycles. I estimate that each DW used between .8 and 1 KW of power and each used around 12 gallons of 130F water hasted by my storage type NG fired water heater.

 

You will see that my tableware does not practice Social Distancing , I love the convince of just dropping hand fulls of dirty silverware in the baskets, the day that I have the time to sort and arrange dirty spoons, forks and knives in the silly top trays of many newer DWs in when I will be ready for the funny farm, I think I would rather fold dirty socks and underwear than handle all the dirty tableware, LOL

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OK, let me try again.....

 

 

After my honey made Chicken Adobo for dinner tonight, there was enough stiff dirtied since running the Bosch yesterday morning, to justify running it again this evening.

 

Let's see of I can manage to get BobLoad certified this time (fingers crossed)!
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Photo progression:

1. some of the dirty stuff

2. starting to load the lower rack

3. the loaded lower rack

4. the upper rack

5. rack #3

6. the door

7. the detergent (in this case Somat brand my friend Mark brought me from Spain)

8. cycle settings

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F&D dishdrawers

I still miss mine it was sold on as I was having trouble finding powdered detergent and the pods and tablets were too strong and causing foam etc so went back to a boring dishwasher, Having said that I do prefer the top tray for cutlery as you never have to touch the dirty part just the clean handles but its what ever you are used to I guess?
 
Milky water

Hi Henene4,

Your air fryer had quite a bit of residual water which looked milky. I would say that this load needed an extra rinse cycle.

I programmed in an extra interim rinse and water plus through the service mode as I was experiencing this with my G6827.

All good now. The results are great.

Cheers
Rod

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Loading Flatware

The Flatware baskets on our WP DWs are very easy to load in or out of the DW, you never have to touch anything but the handles whether the items are dirty or clean.

 

I usually load from 1-6 pieces of FW at a time and when you just have one dirty spoon etc you only have to open the door a few inches and drop the item from countertop height [ approximately 36" above the floor ] you do not have to open the and pull the top FW rack all the way out to put one teaspoon in its perfect spot.

 

Poor rinsing is a major problem on many new very water efficient DWs, try setting a glass upright in the DW during the last rinse or take a turkey baster and suck water out of the sump after the DW has run and see what the water looks like, and would you drink what you see ?, and this cloudy water is dried all over your [ clean ] dishes, this is the main reason that a lot of newer DWs stink after they sit a while between runs.

 

John L.

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Finish rinse aid

Hi Henene4,

Have you tried using other rinse aids which don't have colour? There is Finish 0% or Miele. I've been using the DM brand and it's really good.
 
Milky Water and Miele

I have been using my Miele G 7590 SCVi K2O AutoDos more than one year (I even bought it in Germany, since they were later available in Switzerland). Previously I have used a Miele G 6995 SCVi K2O and for a very long time a 45cm width basic Siemens (from 2005) as well as V-Zug Adora S 55 (from 2004) and Adora 12 SL (from 1996). In another place I am using a fully integrated V-Zug Adora S from 2013.

The Miele G7000 is a beautiful dishwasher, nowadays still best quality for the private consumer market, V-Zug‘s new Line is just behind, while BSH is best price-value but quality in my opinion just ok. Far behind all the Electrolux and Bauknecht dishwashers when it comes to built quality.

I like the smooth sliding racks of the Miele (same does new V-Zug have), especially lower basket, the user interface (very straight forward), sleek design of interior including new pump and sump system and the AutoDos which is really convenient. My kitchen is without handles and I needed a model with automated door opening, that’s why I could not go with V-Zug. But in the end the cleaning performance is the most important factor to me. While I have been extremely happy with the V-Zug Adora 12 SL from 1995 that used around 15-25 litres water (4-6.6 gallons) and all spray arms a the same time with good pressure, I wast just less happy with the Adora from 2004 that maximally used 5 gallons in the normal cycle with the overall performance, you can just feel it when you take out the „clean“ dishes. Glass and stainless steel was not as shiny as from the older Adora. Then the small basic Siemens from 2005 which only had 4 programs and was always running on Intense 65 degr. Celsius, has delivered every single time outstanding results even with the dirtiest dishes fully packed. The nozzels at the spray arme and the pressure must have been really good, the water consumption was also quite high with around 5.2 gallons.
Then I‘ve been using the Miele G6000 TOL and there I just realised how important the proper amount of water is to get outstanding results. Several times I have packed the Miele completely full with greasy dirty dishes (no prerinsing, just scraping off) and glassware in the second tray and run the Intense cycle with and without short option. Same result I could expect according to the manual, but this was certainly not the case. While dishes looked clean in both cases, I could certainly feel a difference and right after the cycle while glassware is still a bit wet, one could see small particles (like very very small corns) on the glass thanks to the bright interior light. Water left in holes of stainless steel dishes or mugs was milky, same was the water in the sump and the sump was greasy. Have also tried using more detergent and different detergent, in the and it was always similar. The dishwasher has always indicated 2.9 gallons of water usage. V-Zug from 2012 on the other hand does with same load and soil level a Intense cycle in 1h40min with 1 up to 2 pre rinses, while always just one intermediate rinse, with overall usage of 4.5-5 gallons. To sum up: in order to deliver outstanding results, the dishwasher has to do minimum a pre-rinse to flush away just the big amount of leftover on dishes and to allow the detergent to work in the main wash to dissolve greasy and heavy dirt and not to crack leftovers in the same water. While a second intermediate rinse is not needed, it is important that the dishwasher uses a higher amount of water in the final rinse.

The new G 7000 had the extra clean option and the QuickIntense Cycle, which was probably the only reason to give Miele another chance and not to pick V-Zug. The G 7000 is efficient but takes too much time same as the G 6000 to finish a Automatic cycle (2h30 vs. 1h35 V-Zug). While the results are very good and dishes very dry considering the ultra low consumption I still needed to activate the extra clean option, which adds a pre-rinse in every program that would not have one and adds extra water with every filling and extends the cycle time, to get excellent results. My dishwasher is hooked to hot water supply. The QuickIntense takes only 50 Min. and uses around 3.1 gallons water without extra clean option while 1h28min and 4.2 gal. with option activated. QuickIntense only in combination with extra clean delivers outstanding impeccable results without any residues. Water in the sump will not be milky...even with finish rinse aid. I do not really like to use the 75 Intense, it is just too harsh and then I just do not understand that daily cycle such as the Automatic even with Express selected cannot be finished under 1h40min? I mean, I select the Express and I don’t mind if it uses more water and energy (as stated in the manual) but why does Miele not really shorten the cycle times as BSH can do?

Does any one know how I could raise the water level without increasing the cycle time through the service mode in my G 7000 Miele?

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