Bob Load Thread anyone?

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VarioSpeed

Is an amazing thing really if you don't care to much about usage, but without knowing, I would say that depending on condition and model, usage could be up to doubled in terms of energy.
And with VarioSpeed on any chance of glass care is out of the window as there is basicly no heat transfer.

The G4000 series machine at my work is about on par with VarioSpeed in terms of short option cycle times.

The G7000 is really focused on efficency there.
Express won't raise usage much. And QuickIntense with extra clean on is basicly just the Auto cycle in short. Probably a warm prewash, main wash at 65C, rinse, rinse, short dry, everything with max fills. More fills with higher levels and maybe some enzyme staging would make the 30min extra quite reasobable - BSHs Auto cycle with VarioSpeed is actually about 90min, so...
And keep in mind any cycle there will still run Mieles glass protection pattern of just waiting for water to cool down naturaly before draining due to the lack of a heat exchanger - except for QuickIntense which is basicly a VarioSpeed+ Eco 50C ripoff.
That is also a reason why the glass care cycle always was really long on Mieles compared to BSH machines.

So to summarise:
BSH has their 1:05 VarioSpeed+ Eco 50C cycle which is equivalent to QuickIntense in cycle steps, care, time, performance and usage.
Adding Extra Clean turns Mieles QuickIntense into BSHs Auto cycle with VarioSpeed+ in basicly all regards.
Mieles Auto with Express keeps the cool down times as part of glass care routine, thus adds about 30 odd min and runs at a more reasonable spray pressure-
And than again the Auto cycles match up round about if no options are selected.

Dunno how to acess programming on your TOL machine, but mine just has another extra clean option in the service menu, not much to adjust, adds time as well I think.
 
Miele dishwasher

Hi All,
I would like to share the last load I did in my Miele G 6827 SCi XXL dishwasher. The last pic shows a beaker with some residual water on top but it is clear. I use Miele multi-tabs and Miele rinse aid set at 2 ml.

I have had this machine for shy of two years and before that, I had a G 5935 SCi XXL. I think the G 5000 series was very good and better than my current machine. When I first got the machine, I was experiencing milky water in the final rinse and the cutlery tray started to get stained with tomato residue. I put this down to low water consumption. I never had this problem with my G 5935.

I went into the settings and added a permanent pre-wash even if the short option was used. This did improve things and then I went into the service menu and activated water plus and second interim rinse. The results were much better and then started to play around with the options and settings.
I still have the machine on water plus and have taken away the second interim rinse. I always tend to run Automatic program with the short option, the duration is around 1 hour 26 minutes. The machine is connected to a hot water supply at 55 degrees celsius. The Automatic program with no options generally starts at 2 hours 45 minutes but finishes around 20 minutes faster.

Schulthess, to get into the service mode. I think you have to turn off the machine and then at the same time press the power and the back button together, release the back button and press it 5 times holding it down on the 5th press until you enter the service/programming mode. You should be able to find water plus and activate it.

Regards
Rod

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Sump water

The verry little water in the sump after todays cycle was clear.

The filter it self is pretty self cleaning.
The area around it tends to keep green particulates from herbs n such quite a bit, especially up around the top where the filter connects to the holder/filter screen and around the bottom of the shroud of the lower wash arm.

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I'd frequently get that milky water when using the Fast 65°C cycle. It would wash, rinse twice and dry within 55 minutes. It cleaned pretty much everything but burnt-on food. However, without a pre-wash, I'd often have milky water in areas that trap water. My usual cycles (either Auto or Intensive with Vario Speed) always performed a heated prewash to which I added a little detergent - no residue.

The small beast of a dishwasher, the Bosch countertop unit, uses comparable amounts of water to a full-sized machine. It leaves dishes spotless even without rinse aid.

Can't speak about the new Siemens as I haven't used it enough. Just case, there is an option to add an additional rinse.
 
Load of the day. Chicken drumsticks were baked in the casserole and rice pudding in the pot. Nothing too serious, though.

I will say that a cutlery drawer in a Euro-hight/ ADA compliant dishwasher does take up some real estate. Both baskets were pretty much loaded as high as possible. :o

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Hi Brigita!

Welcome to AW.org. This question is asked every couple of years or so by new members. A member answered this question very well back in 2016, so I will paste his answer here:

“Bob Loads are basically loading the dishwasher to its maximum where you don't think that anything else can be added to it. The only "pre-rinsing" that you do is just basic scraping of dishes before loading them with no water involved.

You have to be sure to post pics of both racks showing how they looked before the machine is run, and post pics of after running before you unload the dishwasher. Also, it would be nice to know what cycle & options you used along with which dishwasher detergent.

One of the members here is the one that "certifies" that you've BOB LOADED your machine. His screen name is APPNUT and his name of course is BOB.

The fact you mentioned BOB LOADING in your thread title will more than likely draw him here to check out how you did. The only thing you need to do now is post some after shots.”

I hope this helps! We all look forward to seeing pictures of your “Bob Loads”!

Bryan
 
Jerrod, I recognize your dishes.

I think they are either Villeroy and Bach, or Hutschenruether. Artist's name Yves Galgon? He designed some serveware for Lufthansa.
 
Dishes

If you are referring to the plates with a red pattern, the back of them says it was Van Beers. I have a set of these dishes that were made in Indonesia but I only use a few pieces. My kitchen cabinets are like a Wedgewood blue but a little lighter, so I use the blue set more. All of my dishes are from several years ago, and they are holding up well.
 
Ah, also a Dutch artist.

I also have whats left of a set of similar Sango "Indonesia" 4 service Flair pattern by Joan Lutz stoenware my Mom gave me for Christmas in 1994. I was resetting up housekeeping on my own again since 1983. 3 bowls left, 4 suacers, 1 mug, 2 dinner plates. Part of the everyday dish asst.
 
Bobload

Easter dinner dishes in our 2019 Maytag MDB4949, I'm extremely impressed with this dishwasher (that says alot considering this dishwasher replaced my Lady K power clean) and yes, they came out spotless! And my little helper was in picture pre-rinsing.

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1988 TOL Kenmore Ultra-Wash

In the museum kitchen has been getting a workout, it is normally only run every week or so however Jason and I have been staying in the office and reorganizing the parts room and I have been cooking every day so we don't have to go out to eat.

 

So the trusty KM UW has been run every few days with larger dirtier loads.

 

I even made two batches of peanut brittle in a little brake time.

 

John L.

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