Candidate for worst new dishwasher????

[gadgetgary]

My brother has the same dw in his kitchen

Installed in 1986 and still going strong. His racks are blue. The racks in mine are white. I picked up my 2800 from Ebay a few years ago. In 1992, I sold my GE 2800 to a relative and replaced it with my KUDS22 series dw which is still in my kitchen. I missed my GE 2800 a lot, and decided to get another one and use that in my rec room downstairs.

Here is my daily driver:

 

[johnb300m]

why?

why do companies no longer make cool computerized dishwashers? no more sensors and diagnostics?
Everyone's hell bent on hiding the controls now, I want a cool computerized dishwasher with a vacuum fluorescent display.
Something like that GE 2800 but with the wash system of a Maytag.

THAT would be cool

BWT, attn: I'm moving into a new apartment in a week or so. This means NEW DISHWASHER, and no more shitty HAIER.

It's a Frigidaire 1510 with the 5 level wash. I can't wait! Tower wash sucks!

 

[rolls_rapide]

johnb300m

I know what you mean about lack of innovation.

I discovered that Hoover/Candy sell dishwashers in France and Italy that are the top-line models, with sensors and liquid-crystal displays. (The HOD-9 and HOD-8 models).

The top model from Hoover in the UK, seems to be a mid-range model for the other countries!!! (HOD-7... and HOD-6...).

This really pisses me off.

And yet, you can find a company such as Bosch, who makes their range available to virtually all countries.

Companies like Hoover/Candy deserve to be washed down the plughole.

 

[goprog]

Friend's kitchen "flooded" last night. She has used the new
Frigidaire dishwasher in her apartment (after the previous
Frigidaire was replaced) 6 times. Model FDB130RGS1. I didn't
get details - seemed she was saying something about the center
pop-up cone. I opened it up an hour ago - thick piece of
cardboard might feel stronger than the door did. It is a BOL
model - very few options. Search came up with prices anywhere
from $199 - $349 on the net. Hmmm.

 

[tomturbomatic]

The older GE dws used a bunch of water changes because the pump retained several cups of water each time it drained because of the small impeller, large discharge opening & large housing. When the drain valve opened, there was a rush of water, but once the level dropped below the top of the pump chamber, the water was not pumped out. Later, GE, to get by with fewer water changes, put an auxillary drain pump in that was activated twice, after the main wash and one of the rinses. A little hose ran from the bottom of the main pump to this little pump and it sucked the chamber dry so that several cups of water from the previous portion of the cycle were not left behind to mess up the new water in the next portion of the cycle.

 

[lasvegasrox]

what about this dishwasher a maytag

 

[johnb300m]

those were good Maytags weren't they???

 

[lasvegasrox]

yah

the maytag would sense the presence of detergent,water temp,how fast the wash arm was spinning and of course soil level,,,they only had smart start,sani wash,quick wash,and rinse and hold for the options it has delicate wash,heated dry,cancel,child lock.much like the 2800 it would say blocked wash arm or drain that bolth beep and if suds were slowing the arm down it said wash arm,HEATING while heating water,locked,plus a low rinse aid light,and rinsed after the rinse and hold,and delay just too name a fiew

 

[johnb300m]

why do they not bother putting those neat computerized features in dishwashers anymore? Everything, even the top of the line stuff is all just push pads and MAYBE a few LEDs. Now you never have any idea where the cycle is or how long or what the machine's status is.
When we got our Triton XL in 2003, I grabbed the GSD6660, because it was one of the few upper line machines that still specified SENSING, WASHING, RINSING, DRYING, CLEAN, SANITIZED.
All other machines mostly don't tell you that stuff anymore.

WHY NOT?
Do people really not care what goes on in the box anymore?

 

[washerfanatic]

I know...

This is why we went with the MDB7600AWB TOL Maytag in 2/28/05. It tells you how long the cycle will continue on a digital display. Even the old Kenmore from 9/8/97 had a display. I want to see exactly how long we are in the cycle and what mode it's in.

 

[mrcleanjeans]

Kenidaire scare

the BOL Kenmore,made by Frigidaire with the pop-up wash tower is far and away the WORST dishwasher I've ever used.It may as well pee on the dishes with its weak wimpy pump.

 

[logixx]

Many manufacturers offer high-tech dishwashers.

AEG/Electrolux sells a dishwasher with LC-display, interior light, stainless steel racks,... They also have a 90 cm wide dishwasher with one rack (and a small rack for cups).

In Europe, Miele sells its improved LaPerla that, for example, will automatically open the door at the end of the cycle. It can also lock the door itself, has variable spray pressure, sensor-controlled drying and water-softening and a Turbo option.

Gorenje offers most of its TOL appliances with animated touch screen controls - unfortunately, they don't have TOL dishwashers.

Asko's TOL dishwashers is practically fully programmable: Super Rinse, Cool Touch, 3 drying levels, Express option. The DW allows you to individually set the temp (there are 9 to choose from) on almost every cycle. You can store custom cycles or let the machine perform a Mixed Wash with high-pressure in the lower and low pressure in the upper rack. There's also a sensor-controlled drying cycle and an interior light.

Blomberg TOL dishwasher with LC-display offers a Mix cycle that'll wash both baskets until the temp reaches 110°. It then turns the upper spray arm off, increases pressure by 60% and continues to wash pot & pans at 170°F.

Bosch/Siemens dishwashers have up to three Auto Wash cycles, a soil sensor that'll automatically adjust spray pressure (it even changes for different steps in the cycle) and a VarioSpeed option to cut the cycle time by 50%. A heat exchanger pre-heats the water prior to each water change. A high-resolution LC-display will tell you what's going on inside the machine: whether it's checking the sensor, washing at high pressure, sanitizing or whether the glass care system or heat exchanger are activated.

For the above machines, water consumption ranges from 9 to 14 liters (on the energy-label cycle), noise levels range from 40 to 44 dB. You can choose from 8 to 16 cycles - excluding all those extra options available. The Miele and B/S/H dishwashers can even be remote-controlled - even via cell phone.

Granted, many of these premium features carry a premium price tag...

Alex

http://www.siemens-hausgeraete.de/F...iles/se-filme-server/siemens-aquaVario-i1.wmv

 

[johnb300m]

very little, if any of that, Alex, is available in the United States anymore.

 

[logixx]

Well, some of these machine are also available in the US.

ASKO: http://www.askousa.com/dishwashers/model.php?id=D3531XLFI

B/S/H: http://www.boschappliances.com/product693.html

The Miele G2831SCi is actually pretty similar to the LaPerla - except for some software and mechanical updates.

Blomberg (international site): http://www.blomberginternational.com/en/

 

[gelaundry4ever]

award goes to...

the award goes to... the new whirlpool dishwashers with resource saver! Weak pumps, low temps even on the so-called high-temp wash, 7 hour cycles about a workday or nights sleep, stupid filters and worst of all the alternating spray arms! UGH!