My nomination is the Roper single arm POS that is installed in the furnished apartment I am in having newly relocated to Fort McMurray, Alberta. I guess things wash OK on the bottom rack, but everything on the top is still dirty, or encrusted with bits of food, necessitating a lot of pre rinsing. For another $100 they could have installed something that works IMHO.
Candidate for worst new dishwasher????
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spincookery
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Worst new dishwasher
I couldn't agree more with what you're saying. This ROPER is made by Whirlpool in Canada. It uses a centre spray cone to get water to the top rack and it just doesn't work too well. I had a portable one branded under the Kenmore name. I got rid of it pretty quick and bought a Moffat (Camco now Mabe Inc. GE knock off). What a difference. 3 level filtered wash, heated rinse and lots of cycles. The rack layout is good but I think Frigidaire racking is better. It's more like the original Westinghouse design - you could pack those babies full!
I couldn't agree more with what you're saying. This ROPER is made by Whirlpool in Canada. It uses a centre spray cone to get water to the top rack and it just doesn't work too well. I had a portable one branded under the Kenmore name. I got rid of it pretty quick and bought a Moffat (Camco now Mabe Inc. GE knock off). What a difference. 3 level filtered wash, heated rinse and lots of cycles. The rack layout is good but I think Frigidaire racking is better. It's more like the original Westinghouse design - you could pack those babies full!
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From what i've used/seen any BOL frigidaire sucks bad, as they don't have enough power to do anything more than wash already clean dishes
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worst dishwasher
the worst dishwasher we ever owned was a whirlpool bought in 2001 and given away in 2002. the wash times were long and the dishes rarely came out clean. Bits of food still left on plates and pans and it was noisy aswell. The best dishwasher we bought and still have is the hotpoint aquarius nice hot washes plenty of rinses and nearly always spotless dishes
the worst dishwasher we ever owned was a whirlpool bought in 2001 and given away in 2002. the wash times were long and the dishes rarely came out clean. Bits of food still left on plates and pans and it was noisy aswell. The best dishwasher we bought and still have is the hotpoint aquarius nice hot washes plenty of rinses and nearly always spotless dishes
I have to say our Bosch should be on this list. I've discovered that even on the longest wash possible, I still have to pre-scrub everything or everything comes out with bits of food on them. Mom is not happy! She thinks our TT KitchenAid did a better job, while I don't think it's that extreme, the Bosch definetly needs to go!
mayken4now
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Any plastic tub BOL - MOL (ALL OF THEM) are a POS in my opinion.
Frigidaire, Roper and GE are about the worst I guess.
Anywho, thats a landlord being cheap. Bet his/hers is not the same one you have in your apt?
Steve
Frigidaire, Roper and GE are about the worst I guess.
Anywho, thats a landlord being cheap. Bet his/hers is not the same one you have in your apt?
Steve
exploder3211
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I have a BOL Hotpoint and it gets stuff much cleaner than my TT Kenmore did
rinso
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Worst dishwasher? My mom's RCA made by GE, I think. It had nothing in the system to seperate the food particles from the water during wash & rinse. The user's manual said just to scrape large food particles from the dishes before loading. What a joke! Unless you rinsed everything off the dishes before loading, it would end up being distributed to all the other dishes in the tub.
Actually, My Roper Washes Well
My BOL Roper dishwasher (standard equipment in my 1999 condo) has done a good washing job overall. But I have found several things
1. Proper loading is the key to clean dishes; making sure the items get in contact with the water.
2. Before I run it, I turn on the hot water and run the disposer for about a minute.
3. ALWAYS use an enzyme-based detergent (I use Wal-Mart's Great Value powder; it does the best job for me and costs the least.)
I plan on replacing the Roper....when it breaks down!
My BOL Roper dishwasher (standard equipment in my 1999 condo) has done a good washing job overall. But I have found several things
1. Proper loading is the key to clean dishes; making sure the items get in contact with the water.
2. Before I run it, I turn on the hot water and run the disposer for about a minute.
3. ALWAYS use an enzyme-based detergent (I use Wal-Mart's Great Value powder; it does the best job for me and costs the least.)
I plan on replacing the Roper....when it breaks down!
In a pinch boil 3 quarts ( 3 litres )of water in a pan and dump in machine at the beginning of the cycle. (assuming the machine does not pump out/drain first.) Dilute detergent in it if preferred. It helps. Be careful not to over-fill the machine.
Make sure the water at the adjacent faucet runs hot before the machine is started. One can even do a "rinse and hold" with detergent to purge the lines of cold water, then add the boiling water to a normal cycle.
Make sure the water at the adjacent faucet runs hot before the machine is started. One can even do a "rinse and hold" with detergent to purge the lines of cold water, then add the boiling water to a normal cycle.
Agreed
~I use Wal-Mart's Great Value powder; it does the best job for me and costs the least.)
Also love Electrasol(not lemon)
~I use Wal-Mart's Great Value powder; it does the best job for me and costs the least.)
Also love Electrasol(not lemon)
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Gary:
We use the Walmart Great Value and alternate with Electrosol non-lemon too.
It seems that this last box of Electrosol doesn't work as well as previous boxes did. The powder is fresh and not clumped (not moisture contaiminated). We ran loads the last two days and we had food still stuck to the glasses. Of course we are using a BOL GE. But it usually works really well. The difference was so great that I actually checked the machine while it was running to ensure that the wash arm was moving and the tower was popping up. (It was).
One of the tests I use is pancake batter stuck on a clear glass pyrex mixing bowl. I just put it in the dishwasher unrinsed on the top rack. Usually it comes out spotless. Yesterday it came out with most of the batter still on it!
We use the Walmart Great Value and alternate with Electrosol non-lemon too.
It seems that this last box of Electrosol doesn't work as well as previous boxes did. The powder is fresh and not clumped (not moisture contaiminated). We ran loads the last two days and we had food still stuck to the glasses. Of course we are using a BOL GE. But it usually works really well. The difference was so great that I actually checked the machine while it was running to ensure that the wash arm was moving and the tower was popping up. (It was).
One of the tests I use is pancake batter stuck on a clear glass pyrex mixing bowl. I just put it in the dishwasher unrinsed on the top rack. Usually it comes out spotless. Yesterday it came out with most of the batter still on it!
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ElectraSol powder detergent is not enzyme based like their tablets or Great Value. That might explain the difference in results.
rolls_rapide
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How old is your Bosch? Modern ones have the following problem.
Here in the UK, there is a common fault with Bosch and Siemens dishwashers: that of the blocked 'fill tube'. This tube allows water to enter the tub via the sump.
This is a corrugated tube that comes down from the heat exchanger/fill matrix on the left-hand side, and enters the sump wall, tangentially, at the sump's front wall. It has a habit of clogging up with grease and food deposits.
To clean this tube, isolate the machine from the mains electricity supply. Remove the lower basket. Remove the filters.
Carefully leaning into the machine, with a battery torch (flashlight), you may be able to see a small hole about the width of a finger, set into the vertical sump wall at the 6 O'Clock position. This needs to be GENTLY rodded out, using slim bottle-brushes.
DO NOT use excessive force, as the tube could come adrift, or be punctured.
The tube leads off left, upwards and backwards, and terminates at the water level pressure vessel. Even a small amount of crud can cause weird water level problems.
How old is your Bosch? Modern ones have the following problem.
Here in the UK, there is a common fault with Bosch and Siemens dishwashers: that of the blocked 'fill tube'. This tube allows water to enter the tub via the sump.
This is a corrugated tube that comes down from the heat exchanger/fill matrix on the left-hand side, and enters the sump wall, tangentially, at the sump's front wall. It has a habit of clogging up with grease and food deposits.
To clean this tube, isolate the machine from the mains electricity supply. Remove the lower basket. Remove the filters.
Carefully leaning into the machine, with a battery torch (flashlight), you may be able to see a small hole about the width of a finger, set into the vertical sump wall at the 6 O'Clock position. This needs to be GENTLY rodded out, using slim bottle-brushes.
DO NOT use excessive force, as the tube could come adrift, or be punctured.
The tube leads off left, upwards and backwards, and terminates at the water level pressure vessel. Even a small amount of crud can cause weird water level problems.
Our Bosch dishwasher is brand new! From the first use, it has produced poor results, I now have to not only prescrub, but preWASH all of the dishes before putting them in on the LONGEST cycle the machine has to offer! Glasses still come out with spots on them! I use Cascade oroginal powder and Jet Dry rinse aid, I've tried varying both to see if anything helps. No matter how much detergent or rinse aid I use, glasses still come out covvered in spots that will come off if scrubbed after they come out of the dishwasher! The worst is the silverware rack, I've tried putting silverware in with the handles up and the handles down, I've tried to little organizing grid for silverware and still, all of my silverware comes out with food dried onto it! BLECH!
Try adding some phosphates (STPP), works wonders.
Granted one shouldn't have to add anything, but these days it is all some dishwashers can manage what with water restrictions and all.
If you do not have a supply of STPP handy, drop me an email and perhaps can send you a bit in a ziploc baggie, or some such small container. However if the postal police/Homeland Security show up at your home asking about loose white powder in your mail, you are on your own! *LOL*
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Granted one shouldn't have to add anything, but these days it is all some dishwashers can manage what with water restrictions and all.
If you do not have a supply of STPP handy, drop me an email and perhaps can send you a bit in a ziploc baggie, or some such small container. However if the postal police/Homeland Security show up at your home asking about loose white powder in your mail, you are on your own! *LOL*
L.
