I seem to remember some talk of using Cascade (I think) on whites? Is this right? If so, what kind of Cascade? I wanna try this... I have the Cascade Pure Rinse formula...
Cascade on your whites
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I've heard some people have tried Electrosol on white clothes with good results. Electrosol has chlorine bleach in it and is likely to be higher alkali than standard laundry detergents which helps to cut grease and oils better.
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I believe regular Cascade it what you would use
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Jamie,
We've been using Electrasol in our whites as the bleaching agent for a while, and it works quite well. If I ever get around to uploading those pictures...
We've been using Electrasol in our whites as the bleaching agent for a while, and it works quite well. If I ever get around to uploading those pictures...
Automatic dishwasher detergent is highly alkaline and quite caustic, would NOT recommend using it on any sort of laundry.
There are those restoring vintage linens or for stain removal who swear by using automatic dishwasher detergent. Most of these are using old formulas which in addition to being very caustic, contain high amounts of chlorine bleach. Well ANYTHING left soaking/washing in strong chlorine bleach and is highly alkaline will come out "clean". Problem is one is very much weakening the textile fibers. This quite true if the material is cotton or linen and the bleach is not totally removed, something which is very difficult without an "anti-chlor" bath.
L.
There are those restoring vintage linens or for stain removal who swear by using automatic dishwasher detergent. Most of these are using old formulas which in addition to being very caustic, contain high amounts of chlorine bleach. Well ANYTHING left soaking/washing in strong chlorine bleach and is highly alkaline will come out "clean". Problem is one is very much weakening the textile fibers. This quite true if the material is cotton or linen and the bleach is not totally removed, something which is very difficult without an "anti-chlor" bath.
L.
mickeyd
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When phosphates were bannned, the local large community of Mercy nuns told everyone to use dishwasher detergent which they used to keep their head, neck and shoulder coverings, which were made of heavy cotton, immaculately white. Dazzling.
mickeyd
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another alternative
They never said what kind, probably whatever was on sale. It's the phophates that does it. Of course, they no longer wear the head gear, but Man, i swear by powdered Tide with bleach, hot water, and a long soak: an hour or overnight. I get asked about my t-shirts every now and then; it always surprizes me.
Good luck. I love Frigidaires, too.
Mikey
They never said what kind, probably whatever was on sale. It's the phophates that does it. Of course, they no longer wear the head gear, but Man, i swear by powdered Tide with bleach, hot water, and a long soak: an hour or overnight. I get asked about my t-shirts every now and then; it always surprizes me.
Good luck. I love Frigidaires, too.
Mikey
Automatic dishwasher detergents are not affected by most if not all state bans on phosphates. In fact was just at a site today which listed the phosphate content (as of 2005) of most major automatic dishwasher detergents. Sadly it was not was one was looking for, so did not save the page.
Automatic and commercial laundry detergents were exempted from the phosphate ban because their makers showed NOTHING could replace them. For automatic dishwasher detergents in particular, one wishes the water to sheet and keep food particles/grease in suspension so it can be washed away. Otherwise besides unsighly dishes, all sorts of health problems come to mind.
Look at the box of dishwasher detergents next time one is shopping, you will see all but the "green" brands like Ecover, contain phosphates.
The point of all this palaver is that yes, those nuns probably had the whitest coifs in the area, but that is because of phosphates. Anything, especially white laundry will look whiter, cleaner and brighter when laundered in phosphate built detergent.
L.
Automatic and commercial laundry detergents were exempted from the phosphate ban because their makers showed NOTHING could replace them. For automatic dishwasher detergents in particular, one wishes the water to sheet and keep food particles/grease in suspension so it can be washed away. Otherwise besides unsighly dishes, all sorts of health problems come to mind.
Look at the box of dishwasher detergents next time one is shopping, you will see all but the "green" brands like Ecover, contain phosphates.
The point of all this palaver is that yes, those nuns probably had the whitest coifs in the area, but that is because of phosphates. Anything, especially white laundry will look whiter, cleaner and brighter when laundered in phosphate built detergent.
L.
mickeyd
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coifs and gamps
Did you mis-read me? I said it was the phosphates which remained in the dishwasher detergent. You knew the name of the head cover--coif. I bet you also know the name of the so-called "bib" :gamp.
If we could get that hot rinsing Blackstone--what a coup that would be.
You should a send your complaint to E-bay about that greedy anus.
XXOO
Mikey
Would you divulge where in the USA you hail from? I'm new here.
Did you mis-read me? I said it was the phosphates which remained in the dishwasher detergent. You knew the name of the head cover--coif. I bet you also know the name of the so-called "bib" :gamp.
If we could get that hot rinsing Blackstone--what a coup that would be.
You should a send your complaint to E-bay about that greedy anus.
XXOO
Mikey
Would you divulge where in the USA you hail from? I'm new here.
In proper terms "coif" applied to the head-dresses worn by certian orders of nuns/sisters. Think the winged head gear worn by the Sisters of Charity or "The Flying Nun"
Wimples are the head coverings that laced up the back which covered the head down to the neck and perhaps under the chin to throat as well. Over a wimple a veil(s) or coif (sometimes both) were worn. There was also a "crown band" as well for some habits.
"Gamps", you mention are called "Capuche" or "Guimpe".
All this was part of what is called "Latin Rite" habits, most long since abandoned since Vatican II. Even before Vatican II many orders abandoned large coifs for saftey reasons. Though they were great for helping keep "custody of the eyes", the nuns/sisters also could not see to the left or right very well, nor in some cases hear what was around them. In a quiet cloister/convent this might not have been so bad, but as the world quickly went from horse and buggy to the motor car/truck, many accidents and even deaths resulted from the nuns not being able to know what was going on around them.
Final bit of trivia: most "Latin Rite" habits were based on medieval mourning costumes for women. In fact there is a great film staring Sophia Loren and Chareston Heston (El Cid?) where Miss. Loren appears in full black mourning at a medieval king's court. The costume almost excactly resembles a nun's habit, though highly doubt many nuns filled out their habits like Sophia Loren.
L.
Wimples are the head coverings that laced up the back which covered the head down to the neck and perhaps under the chin to throat as well. Over a wimple a veil(s) or coif (sometimes both) were worn. There was also a "crown band" as well for some habits.
"Gamps", you mention are called "Capuche" or "Guimpe".
All this was part of what is called "Latin Rite" habits, most long since abandoned since Vatican II. Even before Vatican II many orders abandoned large coifs for saftey reasons. Though they were great for helping keep "custody of the eyes", the nuns/sisters also could not see to the left or right very well, nor in some cases hear what was around them. In a quiet cloister/convent this might not have been so bad, but as the world quickly went from horse and buggy to the motor car/truck, many accidents and even deaths resulted from the nuns not being able to know what was going on around them.
Final bit of trivia: most "Latin Rite" habits were based on medieval mourning costumes for women. In fact there is a great film staring Sophia Loren and Chareston Heston (El Cid?) where Miss. Loren appears in full black mourning at a medieval king's court. The costume almost excactly resembles a nun's habit, though highly doubt many nuns filled out their habits like Sophia Loren.
L.
mickeyd
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In proper terms
Touche--but I delight and celebrate admitting when I'm wrong.
As far as I know, the garment covering the head is the coif--wings attached or not (only the Sister of Charity did that). The Sisters of Mercy wore a very distinctive and dramatic one, that extended well below their chins ending in two points that rested on their gamps. "Mr Daneeoo thinks my coif is too tight." said Sister Redempta in eight grade, after I motioned under my chin in sympathy.
The Gamp, anglo-saxon or americanized from the French "Guimpe" is the large white chest covering that often covers the shoulders, like medieval armor which some theorists say it is meant to emulate; starched heavy cotton or linen rather than metal. On day, as some fellow seventh graders were drinking hot chocolate in the convent's basement after raking leaves, sister Vincent said to Sister Karen who was working garment through a mangle: "Mary Karen you've torn your gamp! You'll get killed." That was the first time we heard the word; we always referred to it as sister's bib.
The wimple :"Underneath her wimple she has curlers in her hair" from the Sound of Music . Think of the habit Peggy Woods wore when she sang, "Climb Every Mountain" A proper wimple is a one piece affair that combines the coif and guimpe into one garment, very common during the Middle Ages. Think of the servants' dress in the Shakespeare's play. Or try to remember the three sisters who removed the carburator from the Nazi's vehicle as they attempted to trap the Von trapps.
Finally, sometimes wimple and coif are used synonymously, but that is imprecise.
You're amazing, and since you line-dried the percale sheets outdoors today, can I rule out the Northeast as the place from which you hale?
Touche--but I delight and celebrate admitting when I'm wrong.
As far as I know, the garment covering the head is the coif--wings attached or not (only the Sister of Charity did that). The Sisters of Mercy wore a very distinctive and dramatic one, that extended well below their chins ending in two points that rested on their gamps. "Mr Daneeoo thinks my coif is too tight." said Sister Redempta in eight grade, after I motioned under my chin in sympathy.
The Gamp, anglo-saxon or americanized from the French "Guimpe" is the large white chest covering that often covers the shoulders, like medieval armor which some theorists say it is meant to emulate; starched heavy cotton or linen rather than metal. On day, as some fellow seventh graders were drinking hot chocolate in the convent's basement after raking leaves, sister Vincent said to Sister Karen who was working garment through a mangle: "Mary Karen you've torn your gamp! You'll get killed." That was the first time we heard the word; we always referred to it as sister's bib.
The wimple :"Underneath her wimple she has curlers in her hair" from the Sound of Music . Think of the habit Peggy Woods wore when she sang, "Climb Every Mountain" A proper wimple is a one piece affair that combines the coif and guimpe into one garment, very common during the Middle Ages. Think of the servants' dress in the Shakespeare's play. Or try to remember the three sisters who removed the carburator from the Nazi's vehicle as they attempted to trap the Von trapps.
Finally, sometimes wimple and coif are used synonymously, but that is imprecise.
You're amazing, and since you line-dried the percale sheets outdoors today, can I rule out the Northeast as the place from which you hale?
Yikes, I'm with Launderess on this one; I wouldn't use automatic dishwasher detergent on clothes. Of course, I never thought I'd do laundry in cold water, either...
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Good night, Toggle. Good night, mikeyd. Good night, Robert. Good night, Launderess. Good night, Versatronic. Good night, SactoTeddyBear. Good night, washaholic. Good night, retromom and westytoploader. Good night, gansky. Good night, Bethann. Good night, Pulsator.
I have used Cascade,
even recently as a detergent booster, but when I do, I use an extra rinse.
The phosphate and enzymes make me happy.
Lawrence/Maytagbear
even recently as a detergent booster, but when I do, I use an extra rinse.
The phosphate and enzymes make me happy.
Lawrence/Maytagbear
mrcleanjeans
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Years ago,when this tip was originally given,Cascade regular powder was chlorine bleach based,hence the "sheeting action".Now,only the regular Cascade liquid contains bleach,all of its other formulas use enzymes instead,which still is great,but for bleaching,Electrosol powder would fit the bill.
Years ago,when this tip was originally given,Cascade regular powder was chlorine bleach based,hence the "sheeting action".Now,only the regular Cascade liquid contains bleach,all of its other formulas use enzymes instead,which still is great,but for bleaching,Electrosol powder would fit the bill.
air-waycharlie
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What about just using.........
Maybe I am out of the loop or just crazy, but why not use dishwashing powders/liquids for dishwashing and something like, say........Clorox for beaching whites? Seems to work wonders in our household.
Maybe I am out of the loop or just crazy, but why not use dishwashing powders/liquids for dishwashing and something like, say........Clorox for beaching whites? Seems to work wonders in our household.
I prefer phosphates and enzymes to chlorine bleach, I just can't stand the smell of bleach!
My Two Cents Worth....
I hate liquid chlorine bleach. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that a bottle of it was accidentally left in my trunk and leaked through to the gas tank! OY!
I have been using Electrosol for my whites for the last few months. I have no complaints. The stuff is easy to use and the clothes come out white. Now I buy a box for the kitchen and one for the laundry room.
If both liquid bleach and the dishwasher detergent eat the fibers in my clothes...so be it. I'll just walk around in holey underwear; at least they'll be clean (you know what moms always say about clean underwear).
(Is it getting drafty in here?) -
Venus
I hate liquid chlorine bleach. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that a bottle of it was accidentally left in my trunk and leaked through to the gas tank! OY!
I have been using Electrosol for my whites for the last few months. I have no complaints. The stuff is easy to use and the clothes come out white. Now I buy a box for the kitchen and one for the laundry room.
If both liquid bleach and the dishwasher detergent eat the fibers in my clothes...so be it. I'll just walk around in holey underwear; at least they'll be clean (you know what moms always say about clean underwear).
(Is it getting drafty in here?) -
Venus
