Cold-Water Washer by Whirlpool

[arbilab]

Lively discussion

Brands? What are those? Those legacy names vendors used to build reputations on? But are now leased by everyone to anyone?

What are reputations? Like, everything bought from Walmart is 2 reputations below the same thing bought anywhere else and nobody seems to care?

Internet told me this was 2015. Not that that's trustworthy by itself but seems corroborated by pgh 1 & 2 and a lot of other stuff. Like a Fudgesicle (tm) has an ingredient list 4 times longer than my Xenolin (tm) skin lotion and 4 times less comprehensible. Something must have changed when nobody was looking.

Above:
Nothing wrong with OCD laundry habits. Name of the game.
Sebum-- the primary laundry contaminant-- is a semisolid wax below 90F and by its nature, hydrophobic. That is to say, if you thought it was insoluble as a liquid it's downright impervious to water as a solid.
Not that it's a crime to misunderstand the physical world, but try this test: Put a cup of Tide in a cup of 70F water. Put a candle in it. Wait a day/week/month/year/decade and see how much of the candle dissolved. Weigh it before/after if you don't believe your eyes.
The French may have a word for what less-than-90F water does to wax but I double-damn guarantee it doesn't translate as "wash" in ANY language.

<90F water can 'wash' dust from drapes. That's really about it. And even that doesn't work if the occupant smokes.

Maybe Whirlfool should relicense the RCA prefix like they did before when RCA was well on its way to irrelevancy as a brand name.

 

[gelaundry4ever]

Wait!

What - are they serious?

 

[mark_wpduet]

No thanks

Try washing greasy dishes in cold water.

Body oils and all that need hot water. Detergent might help some....but then add scent beads, fabric softener...probably overloading, too much or too little detergent...This will end up smelling like Seinfeld's car.

for this to even remotely work......you would need the absolute perfect conditions...right detergent, never overload, a very small amount of fab softener and at least ONE hot water wash with bleach.

It's bad enough that so many people already don't know how to do laundry....even with a really good machine. Give them this and LOOK OUT!!!!!

 

[warmsecondrinse]

"Try washing greasy dishes in cold water.

Body oils and all that need hot water."

There's a thread here somewhere discussing the temps needed to wash out skin oil and various other types of oil/grease based stains & dirt, assuming the use of products available in the average supermarket.

IIRC, the consensus was 'the hotter the better' if you just want to throw sweat and oil stained items into the washer and get them clean without any special treatment.
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To show ridiculous this cold water obsession is getting (otherwise there'd be no need for the product) I saw a commercial the other day, Basically it was:

"Do your clothes come out of the washer not smelling clean? Then just throw our 'XYZ Scent Crystals' into the machine along with your clothes and your problem is solved! Your clothes will smell fresh for days"

Apparently it no longer occurs to most people that if their clothes come out of the washer not smelling clean, then they are in fact not clean. Or at least advertisers think so.....

 

[gelaundry4ever]

It seems like

nothing has changed!

 

[mark_wpduet]

I just realized this thread is several YEARS old

 

[Chetlaham]

Is this washer still being made? Ultimately they should just build the temperature into the cycles like they did with BOL Kenmores. I like the idea, but to much push on cold and the Heavy duty should really be tap hot.

 

[geoff]

No worries

This is yet another revived thread by GELaundry4ever
. It's from 2015. They no longer make this washer. No offense or discrimination intended.

 

[lakewebsterkid]

Since we are reviving this thread.....

They actually do still make this machine! And the reviews on the website are hysterical! I can nearly smell the state of California from here.

 

[qsd-dan]

They actually do still make this machine!

I'll be darned, they sure do. Guess I shouldn't be surprised though.

https://www.whirlpool.com/laundry/w...with-water-selection,-9-cycles.wtw4715ew.html

 

[geoff]

Wow

I thought they killed this model years ago. I stand corrected.

 

[gelaundry4ever]

Thank you.

No hard feelings. It seems to me that energy restrictions are ever increasing I.E. more cold water washes. And I'll bet it's most brands doing this. I could see if you have dark colors.

 

[wayupnorth]

My neighbors have a front load Whirlpool that only uses a cold inlet but has a heater for a supposed decent temperature and a condenser dryer that takes up to 3 hours to dry a load of towels. Thanks, but I'll keep my 1984 Maytags.

 

[verizonbear]

Problem Solved

You would just need to hang around for the wash fill to complete

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[gelaundry4ever]

I hope whirlpool

tweeks the normal cycle to use warm water, but I'm not gonna hold my breath that they do. Same for the higher temp on the normal cycle on their dryers.

 

[ken]

Reviews on this washer are funny

Like lakewebsterkid stated above. Here are a few:

Great Features, NOT: Whirlpool Top Load Washer
Did not ever fathom despising a washing machine; purchased this six months ago, six months of misery with this thing, and I have used possibly/probably hundreds. This thing will give you pain and frustration as well as hard work (get a board and go to the river!)
Six months hence, "take it away" and also dryer although dryer is Fair to OK but want matching set; back to GE and FAST! Getting to be an expensive endeavor, but I could abide this thing NO longer!
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I am wasting my TIDE!!!
I am very disappointed in the performance of my new low- water washer!!! I just purchased this supposedly high Efficiency washer and i am working harder than my great grand mother to get the soap out of the dry cloths!!! And this is after the cycle is over!! I should be able to load the cloths the way the manufacturer tells me to, use the proper expensive detergent that is recommended for said product and wait for my clean cloths to come out to dry!! Instead i am working harder to wash cloths than i ever had to in my life$! It is very upsetting when you are expecting clean cloths but you receive cloths that was never touched by water!!! I shouldn't finish a cycle with detergent on my cloths period!!! Bad products!!! Never again!!!
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very disappointing - hunk of junk
I bought this washer a few months ago for a rental. Between renters, I am testing it. It makes terrible sounds like it is broken. It does not allow enough water to go in to rinse clothes properly. It does not distribute soap properly clothes comes out with spots of soap on it. I wish I had my old washer back.
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Not happy
We have had this machine for 3 years and it hasn't lived up to the expectations of a Whirlpool product. In the 3 years of ownership, the appliance repair people have been to our residence an average of twice a year. Most of the repair work has been to replace the motherboard that control all of the operations of the machine. They were out here today to fix the problems again and told us the repairs this time would be over 500 dollars. We are going to find a new machine to replace it; it won't be a Whirlpool.
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The nub they call an agitator
I moved to an apartment with all whirlpool appliances. The washer doesn't get but a trickle of water in it and they put a little nub in the bottom for an agitator then say don't cover it ...serious ..the only way to not cover it is do 3 pairs of socks a load only. the dishwasher doesn't wash dishes either.
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I included Whirlpool's response to this review. They actually suggested balling the clothes up to the size of a soccer ball before placing into the washer.

Horrible washing machine!
Water level doesn't even cover one load of sheets on the "sheets" cycle! If water doesn't fill in time, the cycle times out and then the cycle stops and you have to restart this stupid machine. Takes a good hour to wash a load of clothes.

Response from Whirlpool:
Social Care Team · 2 years ago
The Department of Energy standards state how much water any water-based appliances can use, and our washers meet all of their stringent guidelines. We would recommend balling up the clothing similar to the size of a soccer ball, and place around the agitator one at a time. We would also recommend stacking it up so it is around the sides and the agitator plate is visible with all of the clothing around it. Do not fill up past the 2nd to last row of holes in the basket to help avoid overloading. The bulky cycle will allow more water to enter the tub, but will not spin on the highest spin setting. We hope this helps.

 

[maytag85]

Whirlpool would be much better off if they started making machines like my 1963 RCA Whirlpool Imperial Mark XII set tomorrow and discontinuing ALL of their HE machines. There wouldn’t be much complaints about the wash performance in older belt drive design and customers would be much happier with a machine that actually cleans and does what is supposed to do as opposed to their newer HE machines and yes it would be more expensive to build machines like my ‘63 Whirlpools but again customers would be much happier with having a machine that actually washes and rinses like it’s supposed to do.

 

[pierreandreply4]

i think whirlpool should go back to classic machines

i think whirlpool should go back to making classic washers like this inglis washer dryer set like in these pics as well as bring back those classics maytag washer dryer sets

 

[qsd-dan]

The good 'ol machines are never coming back due to cost, weight, materials, labor, and government regulation. Go out and rescue those orphans as they become homeless.

 

[maytag85]

Unfortunately consumers and customers are too cheap to pay for quality these days but I’d bring back the old school Whirlpool belt drive washers if I could but I’d make them in limited numbers so the dumb EPA and DOE can’t say anything.

 

[maytaga806]

Gross, that’ll never last like the old direct drives. Why would anyone logically want something like that is what I cannot understand

 

[gelaundry4ever]

cold water washing

I know this thread is old, yet it is STILL relevant. The only time I use cold water is when I wash my dark colors.

 

[gelaundry4ever]

cold water subject

And while we are still on this subject, energy star is going to be reinforced, count on it. I have a feeling that the cold wash agenda is going to be pushed even more. It's bad enough that everything is being treated with a gentle wash action, even with the machine being placed on normal or heavy duty and deep rinse, on top of low water level washing.

 

[gelaundry4ever]

whirlpool direct drives

I'd bring back the whirlpool direct drives with clean touch controls that will fill up completely to the brim, along with a choice of tap hot, tap cold, and 50/50 for warm.

 

[gelaundry4ever]

energy crisis

It seems like the energy crisis is getting worse, so you know what that means... more cold water washers are being forced on us even more. It's only gonna get worse!

 

[georgect]

Americans Need To DITCH The Top Loader & Move To Front Load

Americans need to end their love affair with top loaders already.
The days are over of being able to fill up a huge tub of HOT water and getting your clothes clean in 30/45 minutes.
Now we have so many states with drought conditions that we really need to use less water.
A front loaders just makes sense. Europe has been using them for like ever and they work.
You can't wash everything in COLD. You actually need HOT and WARM water washes to clean/lift dirt, oil, sebum etc.
Europe doesn't use exclusive COLD water washes.
Educated use is all it takes. Use HOT on whites (and maybe some bleach) to keep your clothes AND machine clean.
My 7 year old Electrolux Wave-Touch (70 Series) washes great and has no foul odor at all.
I use HOT washes for whites with bleach and borax. Colors get Eco-Hot (warmer than warm but not full hot) or Warm.
When washing is done for the day, wipe down boot (door and gasket) leave door open, wipe down detergent drawer and leave open.
And when the washer calls for a Clean Cycle (every 50 washes), I do it.
Maybe I'm pro-front loader because I grew up with a Westinghouse front loader (that even used more water than today's front loaders) but still used WAY less than any top loader of that time.
Front loaders just make more sense.

 

[gelaundry4ever]

cold water washing pushing

Guys, they're still gonna push this cold water washing nonsense. Just look at all the washer offerings.

 

[wayupnorth]

My next door neighbors have a Whirlpool cold water washer but it has a heater. Both washer and marching heat pump dryer use regular 110 plugs and washer on;y has a cold water inlet. Dryer takes forever to dry a load and then you have to empty a tank of water.

 

[spinspeed]

TBH I don't like cold water washing. My F&P TL fills a little with warm or hot water and then cascades the concentrated hot/warm sudsy water over the load with the tub slowly rotating for about 5 minutes. It then fills up with cold to agitate. Always get great results.

In Japan they seem to exclusively use cold water washing. Their machines (mostly TLs) only have one fill hose for cold fill.

 

[launderess]

Since this thread was resurrected from the dead....

Cold water only washing machines are not exactly new nor novel idea. Many washing machines sold in Asia are cold fill only. This applies to Japan and few other places where not only do top loading impeller washers of all sorts hold major market share, but again they are usually cold fill only.

https://morethanrelo.com/en/washing-clothes-in-cold-water/

My little Haier HLP21N is a "cold water" only washer, advise of course one disregards. https://www.manualslib.com/manual/1309588/Haier-Hlp21n.html?page=17

https://www.amazon.com/ask/questions/Tx22V828UD1KKCB

Japan has a whole vast and bewildering array of laundry detergents, bleaches and so forth designed to work in cold water. They also sell huge amounts of washing machine "cleaners" and "disinfectants" designed to cope with what happens when using cold water only...

https://adayofzen.com/the-strange-truth-about-japanese-washing-machines