Converting BD KM self clean to bed of nails filter

[potatochips]

Has anyone converted a self clean belt drive to the Kenmore bed of nails? I have a lead on a Kenmore BD that was my childhood machine, the only difference is this one has a self clean filter. And I know the self clean is the best of the best from my readings on here, but I can't get over how cool the bed of nails is. And plus, can't argue what I liked as a kid.

 

[yogitunes]

it can be done....in fact, RickR, who has this fantastic Whirlpool, installed both!....can't get any better than that....

 

[kenmoreguy64]

Yes as Martin has said, it can be done. The particulars as to the best way to do it would depend on the way the machine is configured now.

Over the years there have been various drain configurations, and four different pumps used in these, so it would be best and simplest to know what the machine is equipped with currently in order to advise what parts to obtain.

The late model BDs would be the easiest to covert, as it would require the fewest changeover parts.

Can you give us some pictures or data about the machine you are looking at currently?

Gordon

 

[potatochips]

These are a mid to late 80s Canadian BD model. I doubt this machine has a dual action agitator, as most of the machines in this era advertised it on the panel. If you look on the left side of the panel, it looks like there is a "Self Cleaning Filter" badge.

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-washer-dryer/bedford/kenmore-washer-dryer-pair-sold-ppu/1219422848?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

 

[barcoboy]

Nice machine! Have been looking to acquire the 8 or 10 program version of this era machine for quite some time now, like the one in the video linked below. Really like the brown control panel.

Even though it isn't on this control panel, I would be very surprised if this wasn't a dual action agitator... I don't remember seeing non dual-action Canadian machines in this style. Although you are right about it usually being advertised on the control panel, like the one in the video is.

http://https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=5a47x_2NsYg

 

[potatochips]

My mothers machine had the roto-swirl. I've seen a few of these brown panel machines on Kijiji, but it's rare to see a non dual action one. I too like this style. The one in the video you linked seems to be the most TOL I've ever seen!

 

[kenwashesmonday]

I live in a 99 year old house with a 99 year old drain pipe. A self cleaning filter is not considered "best of the best" under these circumstances.

 

[kenmoreguy64]

These are interesting machines, I've always wanted to find one down here in the U.S. that someone brought in from Canada.

They were built in the Inglis plant, correct?

The ad says these are sold, pending pick-up. Did you get them Kevin?

Gordon

 

[potatochips]

Yup! I believe these were made in the Inglis plant in Mississauga. I don't believe these came any more loaded that what Todd showed us in the link, extra rinse option and dual action.

Gordon, yup, I did buy them! I will do a video tour when I get them set up.

 

[yogitunes]

oddly enough, you could just that that self clean filter out, and by-pass it....with proper washing techniques, you wont know its gone...

the best part of the manual filter, is waterfall drama....

if you want to talk about a confusion of hose routing, think about this machine, where it not only had the self clean, but was also demonstrating that it was working....

 

[yogitunes]

the bed of nails is a cool manual filter....

my preference would be something like this, as it throws the water towards the center....

kudos to Ben for the video....

 

[yogitunes]

the Magic Mix Dispenser Filter was always a favorite....

 

[potatochips]

This is the filter I remember being in these machines, like the one in this video. It's the white bed of nails with the release tab in the middle.

http://https//youtu.be/1rEHFRrW28c

 

[yogitunes]

what you posted is nothing more than a string catcher....

that's nothing more than a pump change out to add that one.....you need a 3-port pump just to add this type....there are like 2 types, making sure to get the one that allows the plumbing for the self clean to work....you can still remove the self clean filter, and use a fitting to by-pass it...

now THIS is a 'bed of nails' filter that will fill up with lint....

 

[yogitunes]

depending on your exact belt drive machine.....

does it have the true self clean filter and plumbing?......or the filter comb mounted under the inner tub?.....

if its already the comb style, chances are there will be a three port pump already installed.....all you would need is a hose and splash shield with the filter installed...

 

[barcoboy]

I do think that the model in the video I posted was the last Canadian TOL belt drive before they switched over to direct drive. I always remember seeing it in the Sears catalog and wishing we had one! I did know someone who had the 8 program version. The 8 programs were: Auto Pre-wash, Cotton/Sturdy, Rinse, Pre-Soak, Extra Wash, Knits/Delicates, Spin Only, and Permanent Press. The 10 cycle model split up Cotton/Sturdy and Permanent Press into Whites/Colored, and also had the automatic temperature control setting as part of the wash/rinse temperature dial, which I believe the machine in the video has, but I don't think the 8 program model had. The only extra option that this washer could have had was suds saving.

The only thing I didn't like about these newer belt drives was the "new style" cool down sequence in the Permanent Press cycle... I prefer the "old style" version with the slow speed drains and simultaneous agitate and fill.

Glad that you were able to pick them up!

 

[potatochips]

Martin, if I can get my hands on a filter like the one in the last video posted, maybe in white?, then I would be sold.

Todd, I think the last iteration of the Canadian belt drives I remember were these. The "lazy" control panel as I like to think of them. No soul in these control panels.

 

[yogitunes]

yeah, they are available in white.....I had a machine that was converted before I got it....compared to that flat filter, I was glad they did...

was also easier to clean than the brush filter.....

but then again, everything has pros and cons

 

[barcoboy]

Ah Kevin, you are right. I forgot about the "graph paper" consoles. I guess it was because like you, I never liked them either.