ronhic
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Why on earth would anyone need (or want) a 5hr cycle?
Euro wash times vs. US wash times...
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It's all about advertising. By using the Super Eco cycle, Whirlpool can claim to have the most energy efficient 60°C cycle on the market. Of course, there is no mentioning of the extremely long duration.
By the way, Whirlpool also has the longest cycle on a dishwasher: the Overnight cycle.
By the way, Whirlpool also has the longest cycle on a dishwasher: the Overnight cycle.
ronhic
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Bloody hell!
That cycle is also nearly 5hrs....!
I'll think twice before having a moan to salesmen (who generally know next to nothing) about cycle times on any machine again...
That cycle is also nearly 5hrs....!
I'll think twice before having a moan to salesmen (who generally know next to nothing) about cycle times on any machine again...
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"Older" European front loading washing machines is that many heated water by time and not temperature. That is just as with vintage and some modern dishwashers the thermostat is not routed through the timer. Rather a set period of time is alloted for water to heat regardless of incoming water temp and or when (in some cases if) the water reaches set temperature.
My Miele W1070 has two sections on it's timer for heating water. One for the longer "normal" and another for "short". Even when wash water has reached the proper temperature a set on the thermostat, timer will not advance until alloted time is up.
Say if one chooses 120F as wash water temp, and fills the machine with warm water at about 110F, the thermostat clicks off quite soon. If one selects 100F and fills with the same or higher water, again the thermostat shuts off, however in all cases the timer does not advance out of the heating portion of the wash cycle regardless. Happily since this is a mechanical timer all one needs to do is nudge the thing along, and it goes into the main wash cycle.
Am not certian, but think this is what Miele calls "cycle gaurnantee" in the owner's manual. Damn fustrating.
Am wondering if modern totally electronic controlled washing machines have wash times controlled by temp, or allot a set period of time to heat water.
Still, the mind reels at the damage and wear that must happen to laundry being tumbled about for two, three or even five hours, all with very little water to help cushion all that rubbing and beating.
Oh yes, will keep my old Miele running for as long as one can! *LOL*
"Older" European front loading washing machines is that many heated water by time and not temperature. That is just as with vintage and some modern dishwashers the thermostat is not routed through the timer. Rather a set period of time is alloted for water to heat regardless of incoming water temp and or when (in some cases if) the water reaches set temperature.
My Miele W1070 has two sections on it's timer for heating water. One for the longer "normal" and another for "short". Even when wash water has reached the proper temperature a set on the thermostat, timer will not advance until alloted time is up.
Say if one chooses 120F as wash water temp, and fills the machine with warm water at about 110F, the thermostat clicks off quite soon. If one selects 100F and fills with the same or higher water, again the thermostat shuts off, however in all cases the timer does not advance out of the heating portion of the wash cycle regardless. Happily since this is a mechanical timer all one needs to do is nudge the thing along, and it goes into the main wash cycle.
Am not certian, but think this is what Miele calls "cycle gaurnantee" in the owner's manual. Damn fustrating.
Am wondering if modern totally electronic controlled washing machines have wash times controlled by temp, or allot a set period of time to heat water.
Still, the mind reels at the damage and wear that must happen to laundry being tumbled about for two, three or even five hours, all with very little water to help cushion all that rubbing and beating.
Oh yes, will keep my old Miele running for as long as one can! *LOL*
ronhic
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I believe
...that there are some washing machines that will vary the cycle time depending on various factors...
- Absorbancy of load (more water = heavier load = longer cycle)
- turbidity of water (especially for rinse...e.g. mieles will add another)
and I am sure there are other factors too....
These are a few of the things I miss about my old Hoover Electra.
- Hot and cold intake. Our HWS is less than 3 feet from the tap
- Higher water levels...the wash particularly
- Top speed interim spins (OK it was only 800rpm, but they were effective)
In its defence though, the Westinghouse does top up just before the end of the wash cycle on the quick programmes and has high level rinsing on quick cycles with intermittant spins (cotton)
...that there are some washing machines that will vary the cycle time depending on various factors...
- Absorbancy of load (more water = heavier load = longer cycle)
- turbidity of water (especially for rinse...e.g. mieles will add another)
and I am sure there are other factors too....
These are a few of the things I miss about my old Hoover Electra.
- Hot and cold intake. Our HWS is less than 3 feet from the tap
- Higher water levels...the wash particularly
- Top speed interim spins (OK it was only 800rpm, but they were effective)
In its defence though, the Westinghouse does top up just before the end of the wash cycle on the quick programmes and has high level rinsing on quick cycles with intermittant spins (cotton)
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