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Now have to wait until the parts get here.
Good Lord!
This is pathetic! I remember how expen$ive those were. I can't believe a machine would be this trashed after such a short life, yet here's the proof right in front of us. The Neptune looked far more solidly built and easier to service to boot. Would you ever do this repair again on another LG of the same or a similar model?
There are no words to sufficiently express my disappointment at the quality of this washer's materials, construction, or non-service friendly design.
Thanks for documenting this (and the Neptune too),
Dave
This is pathetic! I remember how expen$ive those were. I can't believe a machine would be this trashed after such a short life, yet here's the proof right in front of us. The Neptune looked far more solidly built and easier to service to boot. Would you ever do this repair again on another LG of the same or a similar model?
There are no words to sufficiently express my disappointment at the quality of this washer's materials, construction, or non-service friendly design.
Thanks for documenting this (and the Neptune too),
Dave
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Very sad
I'm glad I got off of the LG bandwagon when I did and traded up for my Mieles.
Now I feel guilty for selling my LG's to the people that I did!
For reference, link below is of Thread # 30834 showing the Miele spider durability. Miele is one of the few brands that would last in my opinion.
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http://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?30834
I'm glad I got off of the LG bandwagon when I did and traded up for my Mieles.
Now I feel guilty for selling my LG's to the people that I did!
For reference, link below is of Thread # 30834 showing the Miele spider durability. Miele is one of the few brands that would last in my opinion.
Andrew[this post was last edited: 11/17/2010-12:04]
http://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?30834
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Well...while I wait for parts->time to explore other regions of the machine. There are flaws elsewhere. So far the Neptune repair was a walk in the park. Things come apart nicely, no soft metal, etc. This one is more like walking through the swamp part of the Florida Everglades! Be ware of the snapping turtles!
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The spider and bolt arrived.
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Spider is cast Aluminum
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Before the new spider is attached-> need to change the design a bit. Still waiting for bearings.
Well for one thing that was fast getting the parts that you needed to fix that washer. 2nd OMG the corrosion on that spider is unbelievable. I am wonder what they used for detergent and if they used chlorine bleach. I have to ask...the front counterweights are they cast iron? I always thought that Miele had used cast iron exclusively for its counterweights. Very interesting repair job...
Oh before I forget...is there a way you could put that liquid plastic on the spider to seal it or seal it in some way to prevent a repeat of the corrosion...
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Proposed Design Change
What changes do you have planned on the design? What I don't understand is why the hell manufacturers make spiders out of aluminum. They sport stainless steel drums, offer 10 year warranties on the motors (LG), yet they make the spiders out of materials that corrode.
When I was a kid, the Kirby dealer that we bought or Kirby G3 from came back and brought me 6 or 7 old trade in Kirbys. Long story short, I ended up throwing some of them in the irrigation ditch behind our house, which they were 8 feet under water all summer long. That fall, I went and fished them out. The aluminum was totally corroded, pitted, and crumbling in spots just like the pictures of this spider. Aluminum is clearly not a good choice for what is truely one of the core components of a front load washing machine.
Blows my mind!
Andrew
What changes do you have planned on the design? What I don't understand is why the hell manufacturers make spiders out of aluminum. They sport stainless steel drums, offer 10 year warranties on the motors (LG), yet they make the spiders out of materials that corrode.
When I was a kid, the Kirby dealer that we bought or Kirby G3 from came back and brought me 6 or 7 old trade in Kirbys. Long story short, I ended up throwing some of them in the irrigation ditch behind our house, which they were 8 feet under water all summer long. That fall, I went and fished them out. The aluminum was totally corroded, pitted, and crumbling in spots just like the pictures of this spider. Aluminum is clearly not a good choice for what is truely one of the core components of a front load washing machine.
Blows my mind!
Andrew
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Mike,
Good idea on sealing the spider - probably wouldn't be able to keep all of the water off the spider due to cracks, wear etc, but it might keep the spider from getting to the dire state this one was in.
One thing I guess we should keep in mind is we have no idea how this machine was used previously - maybe the owner left the door shut on it and used the wrong detergent, caustic chemicals, etc.
Unless this washer has several thousands of hours of operation, the spider and bearings should not have gone out this fast. I'd bet money the spider corrision greately sped up the seal failure, in turn ruining the bearings.
Maybe seal the spider with about 5 coats of roll on truck bedliner.
Andrew
Mike,
Good idea on sealing the spider - probably wouldn't be able to keep all of the water off the spider due to cracks, wear etc, but it might keep the spider from getting to the dire state this one was in.
One thing I guess we should keep in mind is we have no idea how this machine was used previously - maybe the owner left the door shut on it and used the wrong detergent, caustic chemicals, etc.
Unless this washer has several thousands of hours of operation, the spider and bearings should not have gone out this fast. I'd bet money the spider corrision greately sped up the seal failure, in turn ruining the bearings.
Maybe seal the spider with about 5 coats of roll on truck bedliner.
Andrew
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As I was scrolling down the pictures, I was just waiting to see as you tore that machine apart what the spider would look like, cuz I knew it was going to be made out of aluminum. I think we would all be hard pressed to find a front load washer that doesn't make its spiders out of aluminum. I think they all do, with the exception of Miele or SQ......(Not sure about those).........But it is a mystery about those spiders; some people have front load washers with spiders made out of aluminum that are twelve years old and still working fine. I don't get it. I shudder to think what the spider in my six year old Duet must look like.
As I was scrolling down the pictures, I was just waiting to see as you tore that machine apart what the spider would look like, cuz I knew it was going to be made out of aluminum. I think we would all be hard pressed to find a front load washer that doesn't make its spiders out of aluminum. I think they all do, with the exception of Miele or SQ......(Not sure about those).........But it is a mystery about those spiders; some people have front load washers with spiders made out of aluminum that are twelve years old and still working fine. I don't get it. I shudder to think what the spider in my six year old Duet must look like.
Perfect thread illustrating how LG is all about bling-bling, color screens, end-of-cycle tunes etc. but not so much about quality.
I recently saw a documentary on TV that stated that the average Korean consumer replaces his cell phone after one or two years because its technology and features are "old" or simply because it's no longer in vogue. LG is probably trying to get the American consumer to replace their washers for the same reasons AND at the same pace... Too bad.
I recently saw a documentary on TV that stated that the average Korean consumer replaces his cell phone after one or two years because its technology and features are "old" or simply because it's no longer in vogue. LG is probably trying to get the American consumer to replace their washers for the same reasons AND at the same pace... Too bad.
