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Robert that sucks!
Sorry about that!
I agree like everyone else here though, one will turn up!
John, would love to hear your story.
Brent
 
Keeping things in perspective................

I too feel bad for Robert that the machine didn't make it to Minneapolis, and yes, we will all help Robert find his dream machine. Let's not forget what is really important here folks. Another Apex will find us and we will move on. The tragic loss this weekend is not a bouncing basket Apex, but the sexual favors that were offered--all down the drain like yesterday's rinse water. Now they will be hard to find again.
 
I guess Mark and I will have to just RUST.

Let's hear it John. You have kept this man under wating and wanting for his dream machine for a long time now. So, bud, whats the story???????

Hang in there Webmaster, it will come true.

Steve
 
The tragic loss this weekend is not a bouncing basket Apex, but the sexual favors that were offered--all down the drain like yesterday's rinse water. Now they will be hard to find again.

Well maybe not that hard Don ;)

Thanks everyone, oh god all this drama, Search for Tomorrow couldn't have done it better.

I'll let John tell the story of how the machines were "tragically stolen". [Insert Organ Music Here]
 
Robert, I'm a trained hypnotist. I am going to clap my hands twice, and when I do, you will forget all about the Apex. It will be erased from your memory bank, along with the disappointment.

CLAP-CLAP!!

Did it work?
 
no eugene, that wont work! the only remedy is for robert to sit down with us and tell us EVERYTHING that happened. only then can robert begin to heal.
 
My side of this aweful tail......................

Well I have yet to actually talk to Robert. As discussed with Robert two days ago I left Columbus yesturday afternoon. I got as far as Aurora IL. before I decided to stop and get some sleep. This morning I got up got ready and walked out of my motel and...............ah....something was missing. Such as a new 2006 Dodge Dakota pickup that I had rented the day before...as well as everyting that was in it such as my laptop..cell phone charging cable...small bag and notebook containing phone numbers and everything. And yes two Apex washers and a RCA washer that were promised to Robert. After having a small melt down in the parking lot I spent the entire morning filing a police report....which was fun seeing as how not only was it labor day and every cop was on a highway somewhere clocking people but I also didn't know the plate numbers or its vin number for the truck since all the rental papers were in the glove box. My cell phone battery died of course and I didn't have a charger and of course there were no stores open......so no way to get any numbers or to contact anyone except for Kim pleading for him to get ahold of Robert somehow just before it died. After that, one of the hotel desk clerks dropped me off at the only car rental place that would be open on Labor Day and I sat outside for an hour till they opened. I then drove from Aurora to O'Hare Airport where I had to wait until 3:50 to get a flight back to Dayton which cost me over $500. Then had to sit in Cincinnati for a 2 hour lay over. I just got home at about 9 from what I can honestly say is one of the worst days of my life or at least in the top 3. Now I'm sure Robert is upset with me as is everyone else on this site but honestly..............what am I supposed to do. I could honestly sit down and cry it has been such an aweful day. I can appologize to Robert till I'm blue in the face and I can ask everyone here to understand. If you don't want me around anymore I will leave and not come back. I won't even lerk. But honestly...................from the bottom of my heart........the last thing I wanted to do was hurt anyone especially Robert. He has been super kind and very cool about everything. He has helped me with a few problems I've had with getting machines and so forth. I guess I can only ask that you try to understand my side of this....this is all I can say...
 
I'm so disappointed for you

But I promise you that if I ever find one, I will get it, and then get it to you come hell or high water.

Guess what's even better than that: there's a pretty large community of people all over the country who will do the same for you when they find one.

Someone IS going to find one and send it off to you when you least expect it.
 
Ummm I have a question...

John,
Not meaning to sound B**CHY or anything but living in Greater Chicago for most if my life I have one question: What the F**K were you doing out in Aurora? Aurora is nowhere near being on the path from Columbus to Minneapolis?
So you're saying you went 35+ miles out of your way for a motel and some rest?
Sorry dude I'm not buying into your "awful story"
 
Curiosity...

Did you get a copy of the police report?

How did you possibly fit three washers into a Dodge Dakota? Robert has a 2005 Dodge Dakota and it's a comfortable size for two appliances but you must have had a giant shoe-horn to squeeze three machines into it let alone one of them being a 29 inch wide (or more) RCA Whirlpool.

After mentioning to Robert that you were "loading your minivan" what was the need for renting a truck?

I see the question of a side-trip to Aurora, IL has been posed, but it's curious that if one were to arbitrarily choose a point in the Chicagoland area, it would be prudent to at least pick one on the path to your final destination.

After reading your "laundry list" of vintage machines you had found in your original posting a couple of months ago, why have you never bothered to offer one bit of evidence, photographic or otherwise that they actually exist? Especially after being asked for pictures repeatedly and having your credibility questioned, most would have moved heaven and earth to find a way.

Going all the way back to that original posting and your asking questions like; "who wants..." and "who is going to help me divvy them up?" a few times, I find it absolutely incredible that you were offended to get emails from club members interested in machines. Since you clearly responded to NONE of those emails, you then were shocked and traumatized to have people actually point out the fact that you ignored them. If, as you claimed, the language, tone and content was less than appropriate, when asked for the copies and/or sender's info from these emails, you failed to provide them.

Your utjj99 profile doesn't list the machines you have found but another profile under "westywashndry" does list a strikingly similar list of machines but different contact and personal info. Who are you?

I know you are probably feeling vicimized and picked on, but this brief list of questions is intended to clarify your story for everyone of us, most especially Robert. Since your antics have directly involved not only our webmaster and friend, whom I'm sure you can see will be fiercly protected by the group, but all of us that have waited for the latest tidbit of information, pictures and the emminent arrival of these machines. We deserve the truth. I hope, for the sake of your reputation and standing in this group that what you say is true and you have legitimate and truthful answers.
 
Who would leave a laptop in the truck instead of with ones person in the hotel room?

Surely the rental agency would have all the details needed about the stolen vehicle....

If you "spent the entire morning filing a police report," one could figure the time would then be 11 AM to 12 PM. Why would you have to sit "outside for an hour till they opened" at the car rental place?

It shouldn't be too hard to spot a sparkling new pick-up truck loaded with three old washing machines.

Assuming the perps dump the machines ... which one can reasonably figure they will, because who would want three old washers ... perhaps they'll be rescued.
 
Having watched this whole drama unfold, I have remained silent, hoping that utjj99 John Johnson was credible and upright and honest. I am not offering my public opinion on that but will let you draw your own conclusion, based on MY experience with him.
He had posted several weeks ago about certain machines he was looking for. I contacted him and we exchanged a couple of emails. (Yes, I saved all the emails !!) I thought it best to talk to him in person to try and verify his credibility, and we talked several times on the phone. He seemed like a nice person, spoke well and seemed to have a level of skill associated with repairing things and the love of vintage laundry appliances. He wanted to buy my Bendix combo, a 1-18 Frigidaire set that I had just rebuilt, a 1960 Maytag set, and I had an early Bendix bolt down that I told him he could have for free, upon picking up the other machines. He claimed to be in the process of moving from Toledo to Columbus Ohio, Polaris area and could make the trip to my house with the "truck" he had, on his way down to Columbus. OVER THE PHONE, we set a time and date for him to arrive at my house.
He didnt show. No word, no phone call the whole day. One always begins to imagine the worst, such as an accident. I finally got an email later that evening that he couldnt make it and would do it the following Saturday instead, one week later.
One week later, HE DIDNT SHOW AGAIN. I waited all day, no word, no message until later in the evening that he "couldnt get the truck" to pick up the machines. By this time he is starting to look less and less credible but he claimed to still want the machines. Also to note, that what he wanted to buy kept changing. Still being in contact with him, but privately questioning his credibility and character I made specific guidelines he had to meet to buy the machines. (They had to be paid for in 7 days, total due $1100.00, I would hold them for 30days, he could not pick them up until the check cleared the bank). He agreed to it, and I received an email from him that "he had put a certified check in the mail to me yesterday" and I was to notify him when the check arrived. NO CHECK EVER ARRIVED. At this point I emailed him and he stopped all communication with me. I tried phoning him, but his phone number had been disconnected.
It was very disappointing to say the least. I felt very duped, taken advantage of, and the loss of what I thought was going to be a local Ohio collector that could have been a potenial friend. Just a flake? Draw your own conclusion...........At this point, at the thought of causing hard feelings, be accused of making trouble, or just more drama than its worth, I stopped even trying to communicate with this guy. Lord knows unstable people exist, why add more drama to my already complicated life?
His ebay name is JJ165 and his feedback is less than honorable. Not long after my dilemma with him, I noticed a NEW Applianceville member posting: WestyWashnDry in "Massillion". For those outside of Ohio, there is nearby the city of Massillon where several of my friends live. The profile of machines for Westywashndry as Gansky notes is indeed strikingly similar to what utjj99 claims to own. I found this very interesting along with the fact that he has Massillon spelled wrong on his profile. Who spells the name wrong of the city they live in?
SO NOW THE MESSAGE IS TO YOU JOHN JOHNSON: Why did you stand me up not once but twice? Why did you tell me you put a certified check in the mail, which is no good to ANYONE but ME, and not answer my emails about never receiving it?
Why did you claim to receive nasty emails from club members and yet these supposed emails have yet to surface and prove your claim? Why do you have more than one Applianceville profile and name?
This is not just a cyber community here but a close knit family group for many of us. All do not always see eye to eye on everything, as we are human with human faults and frailites. From time to time toes get stepped on, fragile personalities get hurt, but the underlying bond is the love of appliances and the joy of collecting them that has brought us all together. We all respect Robert and his efforts that have made all of this possible for us.
Hope all had a Happy Labor Day! Jimmy
 

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