Wow what an outpouring, thank you everyone, Jimmy I had no idea you had been through the wringer so to speak with this guy as well.
I’ll add a few “inconsistencies” to the list:
I have a 2005 Dodge Dakota, all Dodge Dakota has a system called “Sentry Key”, it has dropped the rate of theft among Dakotas and other Dodge vehicles by 90%. The key has a computer chip in it to communicate with the car, it the correct key is not inserted into the ignition, there is absolutely no way to start or hot wire this car. The only way to steal it is to tow it to a safe and take it apart. Are you telling us that someone had towed this car with 775lbs of washers in the back??? Oh please.
I then drove from Aurora to O'Hare Airport where I had to wait until 3:50 to get a flight back to Dayton which cost me over $500. Then had to sit in Cincinnati for a 2 hour lay over.
You told me and others you are from Columbus, the 2nd largest city in Ohio. Are you trying to tell us that you couldn't get a direct flight from Chicago O’Hare to Columbus? So you had to fly to Dayton then fly to Cincinnati, then fly a third time to Columbus????? Oh honey please you seemed smarter than that.
I want everyone to realize that all along I was very suspicious of John, but I had spoken to him on the phone and as Jimmy said he seemed very kind and intelligent. I had spoke to him about five times and every time the story changed a bit. As I had previously told quite a few people, I figured there was less than 50% chance that this story was true, but since it is an Apex (yes supposedly two of them) and he described the machine rather well to me I would play along, if it turned out the be a big lie I was out nothing, but if it did turn out to be true I didn’t want to ruin it as I had no way of truly knowing. I also knew of the Westywashndry profile but still I thought I better just play along a little while longer to be sure. When he told me he would bring them out on Labor Day weekend I figured I would go along for just a few more weeks and we would then know the truth.
I have since learned that John had offered our Jamie (pulsator) 15 restored vacuum cleaners for absolutely nothing. I do not like the fact that he was lying to me, but it makes me crazy to know that he was lying to some of our younger members. Jamie I hope you didn’t get your hopes up too high or anyone else that has had dealings with John.
I received this heartfelt email from John late last night:
Well, I'm sure you have now heard my story if not a little of it. I did post it on the site. I was going to call you but after reading your post I decided maybe you wouldn't want to talk to me. Honestly Robert you are one of the nicest people I have ever met in my entire life and the last thing I would do is make shit up to hurt you. I thought over our many phone conversations you would realize I would not do something like what I guess I'm being accused of doing. My day has been one of total hell and disappointment. I've had the only joy in the last few months of giving you those machines destroyed. If you want me to talk to you about this I will.........if you want me to prove it to you I will......whatever you want I will do it.
So I will respond to John publicly and say, OK John we will give you just one more chance to prove it to all of us. If you can, I will be the first to apologize, but if you cannot then you will no longer be welcome here with us.
As for that comment about sexual favors, Don and I were being silly, it was just a joke from a previous John thread. See this overly DRAMATIC thread in the 2006 archives:
Thread #7185.
I have to tell everyone that it is great honor to be part of this group, we are a family and we do stick together. I just know that we are going maintain our washer community for the rest of our lives.
