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A full cycle video of a full load of mixed darks. Normal cycle, heavy soil option, cold/cool water temp, with extra rinse (just a spray rinse) and fabric softener option on.

The camera was on the little magnetic tripod that I also used in the dishwasher, and even with the wide lens correction turned on, it still has a bit of a fish-eye look to it, but it at least gives view of the entire tub as well as part of the dispensers. The video is from start to finish entirely, but feel free to use the speed options to increase it. It's actually cool to see how smoothly the blooming rollover is in fast speed.

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Bravos X,

I know, mine is belt drive vs. hall sensor rotor/stator. I still hate it. When it was new it shredded my T shirts, and put holes in them from the baskets holes.
Now it uses more water, and sounds like an old Tri-motor air plane.
 
Doesn't look too bad! Now all we need is a post over in DL modeling the contents of that wash cycle. (Tongue in cheek, of course!........or is it?)

But really, very nice looking washer!
 
Nice video, thanks

A suggestion: If you put a timeline in the description, like in the video linked below, YouTube automatically makes the timestamps into clickable links. Makes it easier for the viewer to skip to the next phase of the wash when he's seen enough of the current one...when watching on YouTube web page, anyway.

http://https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWFKC87aC9M
 
@lakewebsterkid - I am too. I'm not a fan of the new design having a gearbox for one thing. The direct-drive system in this Oasis design sounds so nice, and is aggressive enough to move the load around properly but gentle enough that I haven't had a single thread torn since having it for over a year. The Colors/Towels cycle has a much shorter Catalyst pretreat period, and the agitation time is shorter. It seems to use more water but the agitation stays around medium, so honestly I don't use it much.

@suburbanmd - The more you know!!! I had no idea it would do that! Thank you. :) I'll have to go in and add the times soon, and I'm glad I can know to do that for the future videos.

Seriously, I was going through the videos and only noticed then that the underwear stuck out like a sore thumb haha. I hadn't noticed at all because of trying to get the camera set up perfectly. Usually all the laundry goes onto the floor, and I'm usually making sure the buttons and zippers of shirts and pants are all fastened, so the last things left on the floor are usually a few pairs of socks and underwear. At least it gives a good point of reference to determine the rollover! How did I know someone would comment.. :P

I just filmed a PowerWash cycle full of towels today, so I should have that up in the next day or so. :)
 
Andrew,

Has Whirlpool discontinued the top load direct drive system the larger Cabrio and Bravos XL had?
The belt drive and splutch gear case is junk. It's fine for a compact washer. not a full size one.
 
The new Cabrio design is a bit of a fusion of the Oasis and the VMW platforms. I feel like I remember being told that it actually is called "Fusion Oasis", but that was quite a while ago. The BPM motor, same as the Oasis and F&P, is mounted directly to essentially the same gearbox used in the VMW. My guess is that it was to address issues that could arise with the floating basket design. The drawback is that instead of the quiet hum-whirr sound of the true direct-drive rotor-stator system, there's now the same gear whining the VMW machines have, which isn't the most soothing noise in my opinion.

That all said and done, I do think the machines are gorgeous. If they revise the gear system or at least make it more "Oasis-level" quiet and return to the cabinet mounted dispensers, I'll have a hard time resisting the urge to upgrade, lol. They do seem to use more water than the Oasis, however in the world they got away with it..

If you skip around in this video or others that can be found now, you can hear the difference between the new Cabrio vs. the Oasis like mine.

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New video!! Full load of towels, PowerWash cycle

Finally!! I've had the video for a little over a week but just haven't had the time to sit down and stitch everything together. Surprisingly, rendering an hour and 20 some-odd minutes of full 1080p video at 60 frames per second actually takes a few hours and a whole lot of computer fan power to process.

I think this is the best one so far, and towels loads are always my favorite because this machine especially excels at rolling them over smoothly, not that it doesn't do a great job with everything else, just that towels seem more satisfying to watch lol. I threw in a dark colored hand towel just for rollover reference.

This time I took suburbanmd's advice and typed in the time links in the description so you can jump to each phase, and it worked! Thanks suburbanmd!!! Feel free to set the video at a higher speed. It makes the rollover look like a small load in a DirectDrive "shredmore" set at small water level, but in reverse, ha!



Note** You'll hear that mysterious clunking sound a few times throughout the video. Still have no idea what it is, but the other machine did it as well, though much worse and with screeching. With this machine, it just comes and goes but never seems harmful, so I've dismissed it. It is not the suspension rods or joints, or the basket touching anything, or any loose bolt or agitator. Like the previous machine, it will still pop occasionally even with the agitator and basket removed entirely down to the bare driveshaft. My assumption at this point is that perhaps the bearing ring or one/a few of thesteel balls have just enough of a microscopic imperfection that it will occasionally cause a "jump" inside the rings, just like a bike pedal with bearings or an office chair that leans back and pops occasionally. So, as long as it continues like it does now, and just appears randomly and clears up just as quickly, I see no reason to fret.
 
It's not that bad actually. Wash times are longer but they spin so fast that drying times are greatly reduced. Pretty much every load I dried was done in 20-30 minutes...on low temp. lol.
 
cycle times;

Normal cycles is approx. 43 minutes from first lid lock. With a high spin speed of 800 rpm, dry time on normal or eco normal set at medium dryness is less than 35 min. on a moderate load.
 
Yeah I see your point too. Even better with the SQ because it's new. My GE Filter Flo is fast for washing but the matching dryer takes a solid hour to dry a load of towels on high. A new dryer would probably cut that time down. But now I'm waiting for the dryer to get done, as opposed to waiting for the washer to get done on the Kenmore 28102 I had. LOL
 
Not quite sure, but you'll need at least 2 loads to wash this load of towels in your SQ.

And thus, 2 loads in the dryer.

This means 27+40+40=107 minutes (1 hour and 47 minutes) which takes into account your 2nd load is running in the washer while the dryer is active.

While, once again, using about 2-4 times the water and quite some more energy.

And, further, the time argument is mostly invalid. The time your machine runs is not the time you are doing laundry. The time you take is loading, transfering, folding.
For example, with the time shedule I had to day I would THEORETICLY have done this: I came home at 5:30pm, would have loaded the washer as I come in, make dinner, eat it, put stuff in DW, and it's 7pm. Pop the load in the dryer, write this post, watch some YT, fold them.
With your SQ, I'd basicly have to do each step twice.
 
Your washer has a 3.4 cuft tub, if I remember correctly (haven't been on the SQ page for ages).
This is a 4.5 cuft tub. Without an agitator.

This tub is about full.

And there reasons put down for HE machines. Within this thread. Several times.

Again, I want to clarify:
You can have an opinion. I respect that opinion, even if yours differs from mine.
As soon as you bring up arguments pro&#92contra something that are based on a fact, and I'm not your opinion, I will bring up my arguments based on facts.
I don't want to change your opinion, as long as your opinion has a solid factual base.
If you can disproof me, I'll recognize that and say that you have better arguments.
As long as you don't have them, I won't.
So there is no reason to go rage-mode.
 
I'm not so sure about that Glomain

I'm the only one who does laundry, and I was sick a few weeks ago with the flu. I let the laundry pile up and when it was finally time to do it, I DREADED it.

If I had on old top load washer, I would have had 6 loads of laundry I'm guessing. I was able to get it all done in 3 loads in my Duet FL washer without overloading it, but they were large loads nonetheless. The dryer took a little longer because the washer can handle so much more than the dryer, but I get the feeling I got my laundry done faster than if I had had a regular quick TL washer from the past. Each load was 1 hour and 10 min's, with heavy duty/extra rinse.

Anyway, I came across this the other day. Would you just look at the amount of clothes he put in that machine? And cold water all the way.... but they seem to LOVE their machine.

http://https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSsWjgLzdXw
 
HE machines, especially the newer ones like Mark posted above DOOOOOOOOOO work. I get having opinions, but like Henene said, facts are facts. I've used just about every type of washer out there, new and old and from experience I can state that most do a great job. There are def some turds out there, but doing research and getting opinions (from people that actually have used the product or type) will net you good results. I don't need anyone to convince me that and old clunker is better than a new shiny machine...because I already know, they both work just fine. It's all about personal preference and THAT's IT. Gosh darn it. ;-)
 
@glomain - No, the load that was in the Bravos translates to exactly two full loads (loaded loosely/PROPERLY to the lip of the tub) in the 3.6 cu.ft tub of the Whirlpool agitator washer I have in the garage. Have tested it many times. The 4.8 cu.ft of the Bravos, paired with the fact that the agitator is low profile and also operates differently, (ie. not needing to swing broad paddles back and forth through dense clothing and water like a traditional machine) brings the total -safe- capacity of the machine to a little over twice the capacity of a typical 3.4 to 3.6 cu.ft agitator washer. If you want to stuff that much into your Speed Queen, be my guest, but I guarantee that you'll incur some heavy wear and possible damage to the drive system, and also your fabrics, and if not, the load will most certainly not go anywhere and won't come out clean or even rinsed properly.

Preferences are preferences, and everyone is entitled to what they prefer, but facts are a different story. Also, it is impossible to argue, when the evidence is right here, that a properly designed and properly used HE top loader fails to roll over and effectively move even a heavy load of clothing fluidly and continuously, as well as properly rinse and spin them dry enough to give ease to the dryer.

Also, personal point here, but I never see the big deal when someone complains about cycle times on a dishwasher or washing machine. I'm not really understanding who could be honestly biting at the chain to get the dishes out and put into a cabinet or the clothes put away. The machines are doing the work while you chill at the computer or TV, all you have to do is pop them in and out once they're done. They're not going to fly away if they sit for five minutes. I'd rather them run longer if it means saving energy in the long run and putting my valuable detergent to good use rather than spitting it down the drain in 5-8 minutes. My clothes are much cleaner than any traditional machine I've had before simply because the detergent is getting the time it needs to actually work.
 

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