toploader55
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Funny... Front Loaders are Junk
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If front loaders are junk, why have they been successfully used in Europe and other parts of the world for decades? HMMMM?
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Could not tell who was squawking the most, her or the parakeet with dirty water. Time to have some new supports installed before the trailer gets completely knocked of its foundation. I love front loaders.[this post was last edited: 3/6/2011-15:14]
Could not tell who was squawking the most, her or the parakeet with dirty water. Time to have some new supports installed before the trailer gets completely knocked of its foundation. I love front loaders.[this post was last edited: 3/6/2011-15:14]
Oh My..!!!
Shes missed the pre-fix out of "SOME" and even then...
Is it UNDERLOADED
Is it on a Suspended Wooden Floor ( I see tiles but know people cover board) out the window doesnt seem ground level...
But Hey we`ll never satisfy everyone!!! ...Lol
She needs to go and buy the latest upgrade patch version sudz v2.1 with added glowwhite that will sort it out!!!
Shes missed the pre-fix out of "SOME" and even then...
Is it UNDERLOADED
Is it on a Suspended Wooden Floor ( I see tiles but know people cover board) out the window doesnt seem ground level...
But Hey we`ll never satisfy everyone!!! ...Lol
She needs to go and buy the latest upgrade patch version sudz v2.1 with added glowwhite that will sort it out!!!
pierreandreply4
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sorry but i for one am one that don't love front loaders call me old fashion on this but i think that top loaders are more wash efficiant than front loaders and vibrate least on the final spin as well as saving time when it comes to washing a 14 minute wash is more than engough for wash time than having a 40 minute wash sorry but this is my 2 cent on this
cfz2882
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i like mine...
i have 3 front loads,2 on daily driver row-i like mine,especially the maytag
neptune 3000-i know a lot of people don't like the neptune,but mine had been
great-did figure out it had to have a level and stable footing or it would
not get to top spin speed with an imballanced load,leveled up with a solid
footing it handles imballanced loads very well.
when i bought the neptune in non-working order,there were several things
wrong with it but the fixes were easy and the"dirty sneaker"odor it had has
gone away....
i have 3 front loads,2 on daily driver row-i like mine,especially the maytag
neptune 3000-i know a lot of people don't like the neptune,but mine had been
great-did figure out it had to have a level and stable footing or it would
not get to top spin speed with an imballanced load,leveled up with a solid
footing it handles imballanced loads very well.
when i bought the neptune in non-working order,there were several things
wrong with it but the fixes were easy and the"dirty sneaker"odor it had has
gone away....
3beltwesty
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Looks Like my LG WM2501HWA
Interesting.
It looks just like my LG WM2501HWA I got in November 2010.
Mine will vibrate like that If it was just placed in a different area and one did not level it; ie not all four legs hitting the floor.
I suspect that the machine was never set up at first at all and just shoved in place.
This machine has a better balance scheme than a lessor LG and will work on a 2nd Floor; a friend got one like mine and has it on a 2nd floor.
The machine only weighs 197 Lbs out of the box, real light compared to my 1976 westy which is about 260 to 270 Lbs.
Interesting.
It looks just like my LG WM2501HWA I got in November 2010.
Mine will vibrate like that If it was just placed in a different area and one did not level it; ie not all four legs hitting the floor.
I suspect that the machine was never set up at first at all and just shoved in place.
This machine has a better balance scheme than a lessor LG and will work on a 2nd Floor; a friend got one like mine and has it on a 2nd floor.
The machine only weighs 197 Lbs out of the box, real light compared to my 1976 westy which is about 260 to 270 Lbs.
3beltwesty
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If that washer is really in trailer;
she might have the unlucky combo where the washers natural frequency during the SPIN cycle aligns with the floor's natural resonance and thus one is driving the floor at its natural frequency
Thus trying a different spin speed might be tried.
she might have the unlucky combo where the washers natural frequency during the SPIN cycle aligns with the floor's natural resonance and thus one is driving the floor at its natural frequency
Thus trying a different spin speed might be tried.
haxisfan
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Spin speed?
I wonder what max spin speed these folks' previous TL washer had!
Frankly... I don't get it! In over a third of a century (or half a century in the case of my family) personal experience with FLs I am yet to see or hear of anything like this... nor have my friends or family!
Old FL had a tendency to jump or maybe scoot due to an occasional imbalance cos’ of the lack of an auto balancing system but the majority of them had heavy duty shock absorbers and springs and they were sturdy enough to cope with an internal ‘kick’ only when the spin cycle was being launched (with an unfortunate unbalanced load)... without causing any unwanted movements to the cabinet.
The new ones don't usually have this problem if they rely on a decent balancing system. A FL generally has a much harder job than a TL to cope with the potential vibes of an unbalanced load as they have to deal with gravity rather than spinning a statically positioned load of clothes rested on a turning flat surface, hence the presence in these of stabilizing weights and suspension system.
I posted two links below, in one you see how an FL washer without balancing system behaves (the spin cycles start from the 8th minute onwards) and in the 2nd link you see the lovely effects of an unbalanced load in a TL.
I wonder what max spin speed these folks' previous TL washer had!
Frankly... I don't get it! In over a third of a century (or half a century in the case of my family) personal experience with FLs I am yet to see or hear of anything like this... nor have my friends or family!
Old FL had a tendency to jump or maybe scoot due to an occasional imbalance cos’ of the lack of an auto balancing system but the majority of them had heavy duty shock absorbers and springs and they were sturdy enough to cope with an internal ‘kick’ only when the spin cycle was being launched (with an unfortunate unbalanced load)... without causing any unwanted movements to the cabinet.
The new ones don't usually have this problem if they rely on a decent balancing system. A FL generally has a much harder job than a TL to cope with the potential vibes of an unbalanced load as they have to deal with gravity rather than spinning a statically positioned load of clothes rested on a turning flat surface, hence the presence in these of stabilizing weights and suspension system.
I posted two links below, in one you see how an FL washer without balancing system behaves (the spin cycles start from the 8th minute onwards) and in the 2nd link you see the lovely effects of an unbalanced load in a TL.
haxisfan
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Sorry... the link above refers to the unbalanced top loader... below is the one for the unbalanced front loader.
3beltwesty
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Haxisfan;
that woman's FL washer might be in a house on wheels,
ie one that is a prefab trailer type house that once in place is on jacks/blocks; and usually its wheels removed.
Some of these "homes" are really 2 halves that are bolted together.
The floor on one of these is way less stiff than a slab house; which has a 4"/100mm thick concrete slab on the earth
Some prefab trailer type houses are like a flimsy 2nd floor.
that woman's FL washer might be in a house on wheels,
ie one that is a prefab trailer type house that once in place is on jacks/blocks; and usually its wheels removed.
Some of these "homes" are really 2 halves that are bolted together.
The floor on one of these is way less stiff than a slab house; which has a 4"/100mm thick concrete slab on the earth
Some prefab trailer type houses are like a flimsy 2nd floor.
haxisfan
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Hi 3beltwy...
but she must have had another washer there before... perhaps it was a lower spin model and did not create vibrations to such extend. I hope those birds won't die of thirst by the time the washer finishes the cycle
but she must have had another washer there before... perhaps it was a lower spin model and did not create vibrations to such extend. I hope those birds won't die of thirst by the time the washer finishes the cycle
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The LG WM2510HVA FL machine here looks exactly like hers and has no issues with vibration at any load level I have used from 1 to 24 Lbs, but here I have a slab house and I spent 1 minute to adjust the leveling feet.
If one of four the shipping bolts was still in place I would think her machine would vibrate more than her video's vibration problem.
A remote issue is there is a bad shock in her washer.
My bet is the unit is not level.
Sadly I did not even use a level; I just tightened the 4 feet on mine so they all contacted the floor and the gap from washer to floor looked the same. ie I assumed the slab is level
If one of four the shipping bolts was still in place I would think her machine would vibrate more than her video's vibration problem.
A remote issue is there is a bad shock in her washer.
My bet is the unit is not level.
Sadly I did not even use a level; I just tightened the 4 feet on mine so they all contacted the floor and the gap from washer to floor looked the same. ie I assumed the slab is level
haxisfan
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Well... I wish people would get their levelling sorted before putting stuff in bad light like that. I've seen many ppl (anywhere in the world) who use their machines without removing any of the transit bolts... let alone leaving just 1 in! Then, of course, they complain about shaking dramas!
One neat feature I noticed in some TL washers is that they have a levelling eye incorporated to the top of the cabinet. I've never seen this feature in FLs, probably it's generally assumed that the user would make some kind of arrangements to overcome stability issues... as it is, to say the least, imperative for a suspended tumbler to have its four feet firmly on the ground.
One neat feature I noticed in some TL washers is that they have a levelling eye incorporated to the top of the cabinet. I've never seen this feature in FLs, probably it's generally assumed that the user would make some kind of arrangements to overcome stability issues... as it is, to say the least, imperative for a suspended tumbler to have its four feet firmly on the ground.
no, no, no..
You know.. I made my old Candy jump, I put the whole wet bathrobe on the one side of the drum, and started spin without rotating.. It was literally jumping.. I even filmed it.. (link), but NO, there was NO WAY that you could feel it on the flor 5cm away from it.. not on the other side of the room like on this case!
But she is kinda funny.. I laughed while I was watching that vid xD
You know.. I made my old Candy jump, I put the whole wet bathrobe on the one side of the drum, and started spin without rotating.. It was literally jumping.. I even filmed it.. (link), but NO, there was NO WAY that you could feel it on the flor 5cm away from it.. not on the other side of the room like on this case!
But she is kinda funny.. I laughed while I was watching that vid xD
golittlesport
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funny
That floor is definitely not a cement slab. I thought to myself "she must live in a mobile home" when I watched her video. Same problem a lot of folks with older homes have if the laundry is on the second floor.
I have a second floor laundry and front load washer, but the house is newer and built very well. No vibration at all. And no odors either because I read the directions and know how to properly use it.
That floor is definitely not a cement slab. I thought to myself "she must live in a mobile home" when I watched her video. Same problem a lot of folks with older homes have if the laundry is on the second floor.
I have a second floor laundry and front load washer, but the house is newer and built very well. No vibration at all. And no odors either because I read the directions and know how to properly use it.
pierreandreply4
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my washer dryer is on the second floor and i can say that what i don't like about my front loader is the when it go into its spin sequance it not only vibrates but it echos as well so this is another thing that i don't like about front loaders but i rarely notice this when i had a top load washer so thats why in a way i am going back to a top load washer when the front loader i have breaks
toploader55
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From what I've read here...
The Front Loader "Stink" issue is due to Cold water washing and Nasty residue built up inside the Outer drum.
I do not own one yet as I was pursuing a Front Loader recently and that was one of my concerns. But as I said, I do not own one yet and never wash in Cold Water.
The way she is whipping around that Cam Corder, I am thinking she must have had a few "Beverages" during Laundry Day and has had it with Poorly Trained Techs.
Although yes, it could be the construction of her home as well.
The Front Loader "Stink" issue is due to Cold water washing and Nasty residue built up inside the Outer drum.
I do not own one yet as I was pursuing a Front Loader recently and that was one of my concerns. But as I said, I do not own one yet and never wash in Cold Water.
The way she is whipping around that Cam Corder, I am thinking she must have had a few "Beverages" during Laundry Day and has had it with Poorly Trained Techs.
Although yes, it could be the construction of her home as well.
