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From today's news. Better stick with whole birds and pieces imo:

Ground Turkey Study Finds More Than Half Of Samples Contaminated With Fecal Bacteria
By Carey Polis
Posted: 04/30/2013 4:05 pm EDT | Updated: 05/01/2013 12:43 am EDT

More than half of ground turkey samples are contaminated with fecal bacteria, according to a new study from Consumer Reports. In addition, the magazine found that more than 90 percent of the ground turkey samples it tested contained at least one of the five bacteria the test was looking for -- salmonella, Staphylococcus aureus, E. coli, enterococcus and campylobacter (though no campylobacter was found). The test covered 257 retail samples from 21 states and 27 different brands, all purchased in retail stores.

Sixty-nine percent of the ground turkey samples tested by Consumer Reports contained enterococcus, and 60 percent harbored E. coli -- both of which are associated with fecal contamination. Some of the bacteria found in the tested samples can cause food poisoning, as well as urinary, bloodstream and other infections.

Industry groups were quick to attack the Consumer Reports findings. The National Turkey Federation refuted the study as "alarmist" in a press release on Tuesday.

"The magazine reported high levels of certain pathogens on the samples tested, but it is important to note that the two most prevalent, enterococcus and generic E.coli, are not considered sources of foodborne illness," the federation wrote.

The American Meat Institute also offered its take on the study in a press release on Tuesday, saying that while "the magazine chooses to focus today’s story on four bacteria their labs did find, the more important story is about the pathogenic bacteria of public health concern that they didn’t find or found at remarkably low levels."

In addition to evidence associated with fecal contamination, Consumer Reports also found that many of the disease-causing organisms it tested were resistant to antibiotics used to fight them. Consumer Reports tested both conventional turkey meat and turkey meat from birds that were not fed antibiotics. Conventional ground turkey was compared to ground turkey labeled “no antibiotics,” “organic,” (which doesn't use antibiotics) or “raised without antibiotics” -- and all were found to be equally likely to contain the bacteria the magazine included in its study. However, bacteria on the antibiotic-free ground turkey was less likely to be antibiotic-resistant."
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This Accounts....

....For the foul taste.

I still shudder when I remember my mom's mid-'70s ground turkey kick, which she got on because it was lower in fat than the hamburger of the time, and because of the price, lower than hamburger's (remember that meat costs spiraled upwards during those years).

She put it in everything, totally ignoring the faces people made when they tasted it in formerly favorite hamburger-based recipes, saying, "You'd never know, would you?"

We knew, Mom. Trust me, we knew.
 
I know it's irrational, but ground turkey always seemed unnatural to me. Turkey was always sitting there on a frame, not all ground up. That's how I was introduced to it. It was served in slices and that is how I will continue to prefer it, with dressing, gravy and jellied cranberry sauce, not those busted berries in juice.
 
I agree with Tom. I like the texture of the meat (when it's made right) as much as the flavor. I suppose that's true of anything, e.g. I'd rather have a steak than a hamburger, and I'm not sure how much better commercial ground beef (or pork etc) would fare in these same tests.

But bottom line imo, anything ground turkey can do, ground something else does better.

And to Sandy, my mom's foray into the mid-70's ground turkey fad lasted exactly one meal in our house, before my dad forever relegated it to the yuck bin. Has anyone ever been at work and looked forward to coming home to a dinner of ground turkey?
 
There is a food venue on the ground floor of our building, and I regularly eat lunch there.  With one exception, their meatloafs have always proclaimed to be "western style" and included a bbq sauce.  The most recent offering however, was a turkey meatloaf, served with a gravy that was almost giblet in nature.  The dish wasn't bad, but once the food went into my mouth, the taste and the texture was almost exactly like turkey and dressing.  It was very strange - not bad, not offensive, but it won't hurt my feelings if they don't serve that dish again.

 

About coming home to ground turkey for dinner; I can't say that has ever happened, but I have distinct memories (bad memories) of coming home from (high) school, opening the back door and getting a faceful of the smell of rutabagas cooking.  OMG, that was almost enough to make me want to turn around and just go back to school.  There was certainly nothing to look forward to THAT night for dinner.  Even as an adult I remember when a family member said she had found a new recipe for rutabaga and as a result they would not be bitter.  NOT!!!!

 

lawrence
 
Karen had recently mentioned that a neighbor of ours had made a turkey meatloaf for the first time a few weeks ago. About 8 hours after they consumed it the woman and her husband both became violently ill. And it lasted for a few days. They had to go see a doctor.

We still use beef where beef is called for. Call me a midwestern boy at heart.
 
Made sloppy joes with ground white turkey one time, using my favorite sauce (Heinz), and threw most of it out.

I eat a lot of turkey, mostly in restaurants. My favorites are smoked turkey sandwich at City BBQ or turkey dinner at Cracker Barrel.
 
Any ground meat

its not just turkey that is suspect. Any meat ground in a commercial facility is potentially contaminated with bacteria. For that matter meat ground at home could be too, but at least then we have control of cleanliness....

I'm very leery of ground beef or pork too. If its not cooked through I won't touch it.
 
All the ground beef we buy is ground up there right in the store. Now I've seen those 5 & 10 lb huge containers of ground beef that were ground in some factory somewhere weeks earlier. I think buying one of those would be asking for it.
 
I have never cared for turkey period, much less the ground turkey.

For me I only use ground chuck, ground pork, ground veal, and on occasion ground lamb. I buy all my meat from the packing house and I watch them gring it and then neatly wrap it in white freezer paper
 
Spoze we all know.....

It's the mass production that makes ground meat dangerous (when undercooked). Store-ground beef (example, all I will buy) comes from one/few animals/carcasses. Internal cuts of beef have a low likelihood of contamination.

Mass produced ground beef OTOH co-exposes the meat from THOUSANDS of carcasses and it only takes one bad one to contaminate everything that grinder produces.

I've only been food poisoned once, in 1966, and it wasn't "that" bad. Just 24 hours of bathroom inconvenience. Not to say food contamination can be taken lightly.
 
Don't eat "factory" Turkey--wouldn't want to.The BEST turkey is one that you hunt and shoot yourself.Wild ones would be healthier.No chemical additives.Anytime I have ground meat-grind it at home.Least I know who cleaned the grinder and what was passed thru it.At the commercial place-was the grinder used to grind beef and not cleaned in between the grinds--you don't know.The grinder is supposed to be-but is it????So after grinding the pork-esp wild from a hunter-there may be trichanoisis mixed in with the beef.Best to grind meat at home with YOUR grinder.And YOU control the grind!The hunter supply catalogs sell BETTER ones than the kitchen suppliers do.And there are those dreaded turkey farms out here!!Don't want to know what goes on in those turkey barns!!
 
Even worse...

Turkey Bacon.

Wanna talk about processed ? When was the last time on Thanksgiving someone requested " May I have some of the Bacon when you get to it ?"

I buy all natural Chicken Breasts and grind it in the Cuisinart for Chili. I can see what I am processing.
 
Sam:

"I have never cared for turkey period, much less the ground turkey."

I'll second that. My only real liking for turkey is for a turkey sandwich or two from the Thanksgiving leftovers. I am not otherwise fond of the stuff.

I also hate the smell of turkey fat in the house from the roasting process. In years when I do not have a self-cleaning oven (my current situation), no turkey gets roasted, sorry. I have to run a cleaning cycle right away to get that dreadful odor GONE. I mean it makes me gag.
 
P.S.:

I also don't care much for roasting an entire bird, because I don't care at all for dark turkey meat. My choice on turkey is to roast a couple of whole turkey breasts - lots of white meat, less odor in the roasting and no coping with days and days of leftovers you didn't really want to eat in the first place.
 
If you want to eliminate that sickening odor when roasting, put sprigs of rosemary under the breast skin along with some minced garlic and pepper; remember Julia showing how to gently separate the skin from the flesh? Mom and I switched to turkey breasts years ago to have fewer leftovers, period.
 

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