GE PDT750 Takes John's (combo52) Peanut Butter Test

[frigidareu]

I've had my GE Nautilus tower DW for over 14 years now and it has performed flawlessly. It's loud, uses a boatload of water and cleans like a SOB. The only time something has not come out clean is because of loading errors.

 

[frigilux]

Good grief. The glass from my first load looked not much cleaner than this at the end of a two hour cycle. Yours looked like this after the prewash! The configuration of the lower rack would drive me nuts, but you can't argue with results like that. Glad to see so many people doing the peanut butter test!

 

[gansky1]

The top that's versatile

Yes, the lower racking in a GE is a challenge and it seems like it doesn't hold as much as it logically should. The silver basket is large and has a fold-down cover for small items which is occasionally useful but I believe the six compartments are too large allowing flatware to fall over and lay on the sides of the compartment. I have a 60's basket from a Silver Shower machine I want to try, a little taller sides and smaller sections.

What is lacking in the lower rack is partially made up for by that gargantuan upper rack. This load had one of the huge SS mixing bowls perched over smaller items and there was still room for more. I recently had a 7 quart stoneware Crock Pot dish, nested over smaller items again and it came out perfect with no pre-rinsing or scrubbing.

GE could make a decent dishwasher that performed well, they weren't all landfill fodder. John (combo52) gave me one of the newer, quiet motors and I insulated the thing all around and below when I installed it back in August, so it's really quiet. I don't mind the little bit of noise for fast and fabulous results

This is a pic of the machine the day I installed it, the lower panel is loose because I was waiting for the adhesive on the insulation to set before putting the kickplate on.

Now, back to our regularly scheduled peanut butter challenges. Come on guys and gals, let's see those pics.

 

[jerrod6]

I smeared four tall glasses and one small one with peanut butter on Saturday morning.  I let the glasses sit and then included them in a load I did Sunday afternoon.  The load was dishes from Friday night thru Sunday lunch and included dishes soiled with stuck on mash potatoes and steak, broiled salmon, tofu, pasta from Saturday night, and a glass casserole pan used to bake blackeyed peas and collard greens.

 

Wasn't sure how it would turn out because my incoming water to the DW measured at 113F for the wash so the machine had to heat the water the rest of the way to whatever temperature it was going to use.

 

I placed the four large glasses in each corner of the rack and you can see the small glass in the center near the back behind a red lid and next to a red mug.  I used a Finish Quantum Max Shine Pac for detergent.

 

 

 

[washer111]

Now Its My Turn

And the results weren't perfect... Or anything close. 

 

In the machine's defence, I only used the Delicate cycle - 50C (122F) wash for 26 minutes, 3 rinses with the final at 60C (140F). Had I used the Heavy cycle - things would have improved, although I wanted to be fair given the soil of the dishes elsewhere.

 

There was no redeposition, as far as I can tell. The drain filter may have some PB in it though. 

 

First two are before shots, next two are after shots. 

 

 

[roto204]

Hey Nate ! Check this out

That is extremely impressive. It reinforces the experiences I had with our 1250--it had an almost magical ability to reach all portions of the top rack with that spray tower. I guess I'll have to give this a go in the Roto-Rack--although, to be fair, how would I put the glass in the corner?

 

[mark_wpduet]

I'm going to try this in my Maytag

but I just unloaded it and loaded a few dirty dishes. So it might take a couple of days before I run another load. I'm going to smear some peanut butter in a glass now and let it dry. I will post pics next time I run a load..I'm thinking Thurs or Fri.

 

[jkbff]

Reply #33: a Miele after my own heart!

I'll have to see what my maytag will do and what my g6365 at work will do.

 

[gansky1]

I've always wanted a Miele to play with, now even more.

I'm surprised at the F&P though, does the gentler cycle use a lower spray intensity?

I should try this at my mother's in her Bosch, I'll bet it would do OK. The only difference would be she's no longer the "Choosy Mom" she used to be and buys Wal Mart Great Value brand peanut butter

My sister has a low-end Frigidaire in their apartment now, dare I even ask her to bother?

 

[murando531]

I resisted as long as I could, but I couldn't let all these GEs and Frigidaires and Mieles get all the action!

Used JIF Naturals Creamy pb and put about a tablespoon's worth in each glass and smeared it from the bottom up the sides, and let it sit for about an hour or so. Loaded one in the very back right corner, one at the front left, and one in the middle right of the rack as a sort of "control" since jets would definitely pass under.

Set for Normal with Hi Temp Wash, estimated cycle time was 2:43, and started the machine at 8pm sharp. I listened closely for drains while we were watching Scream Queens, and the cycle ran as follows:

Prewash - 3 mins
Purge
Prewash - 5 mins
Purge
Main wash - 8:14pm-9:37pm
Purge
Rinse - 3 mins
Rinse - 9:44pm-10:30pm
Clean Light came on at 10:36pm

Also look at the awesome dish towel my Aunt Robin got me!!!

 

[murando531]

Results!

Okay guys, so honestly I was setting myself up to expect bad results, because I still have reservations that are stuck in my head because of all the bad rap new dishwashers have gotten over the past few years.

But this thing is determined to prove me wrong with every thing I've thrown at it so far!

There wasn't a bit of peanut butter left on the glasses, the spoon, or anything else in the machine. The only thing left was a slight peanut butter aroma, but it wasn't as strong as I expected it would be, possibly because of the stainless steel interior as opposed to plastic that I've been used to. There were also a few specks of kibble on a cup that was directly under the upper sprinkler, and since the water is directed outward, it probably didn't fall much into the top of it.

The only thing left was a tiny piece of mushroom that seems to have gotten lodged under the door, but even the filter was clean. with only a few dark specks in a few places. I'm still in shock.

The first photo is the main wash water draining out. A not so appetizing blend of detergent scent and hot peanut butter.

 

[johnb300m]

:-0

I am impressed with that Whirlpool!
AND the GE PowerTowers.
I have my own peanut butter glass resting in the PDT720 till it's time to run.

 

[logixx]

Apart from the crazy cycle time, the Whirlpool did well.

 

[washer111]

@gansky1

I use the Delicates because its more than enough for most all everyday soils, and even some casserole dishes thru the oven. Gentler spray, yes and an extra rinse, plus "guaranteed heating."

"NORMAL," despite the moniker cuts the wash time by at least 10 minutes every time for no reason, times out the water heating on the final rinse (again, for no reason other than time saving, I assume) and is just crap.
The time for Normal should work out to 84 minutes without fan drying time. IN reality, its right there with Delicates and doesn't do as good a job.

Heavy is good if you need temperature - which I suspect would have helped in this instanace, and nearly doubles the time of washing on Delicates.

 

[toploader55]

OK I'm in Too

4 glasses with Peanut Butter schmeared at 5 O'clock

 

Then I set them on the Radiator until 7:30

 

Top Rack each Corner

 

Load the Bottom rack Blocking every corner so no spray from the Bottom Arm

 

Note the "Monkey Dishes" placed in the cornors of the right side of the Lower Rack to make sure the Spray is Blocked.

 

The only place that is not totally blocked is the Left Front Corner as the Silverware rack is under that glass.

 

Pics continued on next page.

 

KenWhirl's Ultra Wash System

 

Both Cups filled with Cascade with Dawn and 1/2 tsp of STPP in each cup.

 

Cycle Selected... Normal Wash with HiTemp = (Ultra Wash Normal Setting)

 

The Steps... Prewash, Wash, Rinse, Rinse and then Heated Dry.

 

The Wash and Rinse Cycle Time is approx. 52 minutes. Then about 20 minutes of Heated Dry.

 

Let's see what happens. Should post the results around 9:20 PM.

 

Should they come out soiled, I'll just run them through tomorrow in either Kenwhirl's or the KDS-20's Lower Rack.

 

Stay Tuned.

 

 

[toploader55]

Pics Continued

Rest of Loading and the KenWhirl

 

[toploader55]

Results...

I'm impressed.

 

Back Corners... All Corners.

 

[mark_wpduet]

@ Toploader55

GREAT RESULTS from a GREAT machine - I've had a glass smeared with peanut butter just waiting for the dishwasher to need running. Before I do, I will take b4 and after pics. But, I'm only using ONE glass and It's going in the top right corner closes to the door. I'm trying to pick the weakest spot, although I don't know what this dishwashers weak spot is since I've never had a dirty dish come out other than peanut butter or dried micracle whip on a knife. It has no problem with dried peanut butter on a dish at all....but, I've never had it on a glass..

 

[johnb300m]

PB in the Profile

New machine! Ok I'm in too.
I let 1 glass of peanut butter sit in the machine for 2 days, in the back left corner of the top rack.
It was included in what's usually a typical load for me; mixed dishes, plastics and cookware.
It's only got 1 visible jet to give it attention, so I have no idea what to expect, and Reviewed.com said the corners on the GE machines were iffy.

Results in the morning!

More cycle coverage in the main thread here:

http://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?63347_15

 

[gansky1]

One Arm Wonder-Fail

Tried the test in the KitchenAid KDS-14 dishwasher tonight and had disappointing results.

The pictures don't lie...

Picture 6 is after the pre wash.

 

[frigilux]

@gansky1

 

[mark_wpduet]

OK , Here goes

Full machine as expected after about 3 days. Mixed dishes, NO rinsing at all except if there is peanut butter or mayo on knives (that's it) otherwise, just scraped, not rinsed and they sit in the machine usually 3 days. I put the peanut butter in a typical glass drinking glass a couple of days ago.

This Maytag is approx 1.5 yrs old.

I'm using the cycle I always use.

-auto clean
-Hi temp
-tough scrub (although I have zero clue what that does)
-NO heat dry

I'm using a wee bit of STPP, Finish powerball, a splash of bleach on the door before turning machine one.

the glass is in the top right corner nearest to the door - I'm NOT holding my breath for this to come totally clean! We will soon see and I will post results in a bit when it's done. The cycle usually runs 95 to 105 (ish) minutes.

 

[mark_wpduet]

Nope

but I still LOVE this dishwasher. Everything else was clean. Not sure how the results would have been if I had used Jet Clean/Steam. That runs a LONG time. But with Auto clean - no go. There was no peanut butter smell in the dishwasher at all though.

 

[frigilux]

Mark-- Your test was extra tough due to the peanut butter sitting for days. Mine sat for only a couple of hours and the first one didn't come clean. Was nice to see the control panel of your Maytag. That's quite a brew of chemicals you use, LOL!

 

[mark_wpduet]

Nah

aside from the powerball, only a little phosphate and a splash of bleach is all.
You're right, this was a hard test because peanut butter for days in a deep glass, top rack corner, packed full dishwasher. I probably should have used the jet clean steam cycle just to see what would happen. Perhaps I will next load and do it again. Honestly, there wasn't much left and the glass itself felt and looked really clean, except for that small spot of peanut butter left. I was thinking it might have a hazy half clean look to it, but it didn't.

 

[gansky1]

That's really interesting, Mark. I'm genuinely surprised that didn't come clean. Your dishwasher is nearly the one my parents bought before deciding to go with a Bosch.

I'll be at mom's this weekend for dinner, etc. and I'll slip a PB glass in before we start the dishwasher.

 

[johnb300m]

PDT720

Well, the GE Profile on AutoSense + Wash Boost was pretty disappointing I must say :/ I can't even say everything else was clean either.....more on that in my other thread.

 

[frigilux]

I've never used the AutoSense cycle on my PDT750. After seeing your results, don't think I ever will. The Normal cycle did a better job.

 

[mark_wpduet]

I've decided I'm going to do this exact test again

on the next load. Only this time, I'm going to use the jetclean/steam cycle. I've used this cycle a few times now (mostly by accident) - I will explain:

About once every two months, I use unsweetened lemonade drink mix which is loaded with citric acid to clean the dishwasher. I fill the main wash up and run the longest cycle. I have never timed it but it is significantly longer, I'm sure it's over 2 hours, but I don't think it goes as long as 3 hours, but I have never selected the steam sanitize option, that might increase time.....But the dishwasher remembers your last cycle, so after doing this, I end up pressing start only (which I'm used to doing) and it defaults to the last cycle used. There is a difference in sound during this cycle than auto clean. It definitely sounds like more water action to me...even though there is a lot of water action sound in autoclean too, but jetclean it's a little more pronounced.

I've never used the normal cycle on this dishwasher yet (LOL). If it did not have autoclean, that would probably be the cycle I used, but since it has autoclean, I've never ended up using it...It's a pretty fast dishwasher considering it's modern.

 

[appnut]

KDS14 results

I'm vindicated for having such a low opinion of one arm wonders after having such abysimal results from a brand new KDS16 in 1968 with rice in pan in bottom rack.  The Waste King and RotoRack did much better.