Hi Toka. I am one of the ones, maybe the first to say B.T. Justice may have been misconstrued because of a badly phrased/worded observation. He (in my mind) is innocent. Whoever XYZ is, IS the problem. You have presented a very sane and thorough opinion based on knowledge. I am present on this site as of yesterday for various reasons. I love old appliances, and live vicariously through members who own these gems. I also am a proud member of the gay community and wish to interact with others here in the hopes of establishing some sort of rapport (?) because I haven't any access to the local community, as I do not go to bars. I'm not anti bar, I don't drink. My friends who were sharing my interests in old things are gone from this town, having died mostly, or moved. I respect the straight world, all of my friends are straight and mostly women who are very gay tolerant. I'd like to add some men to the group, straight or gay. This place and the vacuum site are perfect for me in more than one respect. I totally respect Robert's decision in the future of any offending parties. I am a member of a Magnavox group and certainly never strayed off of that subject, but the group became useless because 100% of the focus is tube amps, anything else related to that product is ignored. On these two sites, everything related to their collectables are addressed and covered. I want to be a member in sites that stay open in the good way, and look forward to future dealings. HAPPY GAY PRIDE!!!!!