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The drum, same paddles as your Logic, which, in a way, I should've kept for the Logic Premier or any other possible Logic/EcoLogic Washer Dryer acquisitions.

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Final Pic

Last one... First pic of it I took, before I purchased it. Aristocrat badge a bit clearer, sorry bout the fuzziness in the previous pics, they were taken on a new camera.

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Bosch Logixx 1400 Washer Dryer WFT2800

Soon, I'm going to be acquiring my Uncle's Bosch Logixx 1400 Washer Dryer WFT2800, which I'm looking forward to, I'll try & get a vid or 02 of it running, next time I visit my Uncle.

It'll come in handy to have as a back up in case my Grandma's Hotpoint Ultima 1600 Washer Dryer WD860 floods the kitchen again, or it over heats or the pump gets blocked with leftover dryer fluff.

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My Crew

My Crew, minus the Aqualtis, which's my Mum & Dad's Washer Dryer.
From left to right.

01 Hoover Logic Premier 1250 Washer Dryer A8576
02. Servis Sapphire 1300 Washer Dryer 9635
03. Zanussi JetSystem 1600 Washer Dryer WJD1667W
04. Miele Navitronic 1800 AutoWasher W3985WPS

05. Hotpoint Aqualtis 1400 Washer Dryer AQM8D49IV

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My crew

A very impressive line up CJ, how lucky are you. If only i had a place like yours to keep machines, it would be full by now. Well which one do you rate more the Servis sapphire or the Hoover logic.
 
The Crew

Hi Craig,

In honesty, if it were a comparison, between the Logic Premier, Sapphire & Jetsystem, against the Aqualtis, I can tell you for definite, that the three of mine against the Aqualtis'd be higher in performance ratings, than the Aqualtis. (See Post# 574449, Reply# 37, for the pic of the Premier, Sapphire & Jetsystem).

I only compare them 04 together, because they're all Washer Dryers, whereas the Navi, EcoLogic & Ultima 9566're both AutoWashers & Tumble Dryer separates.

With my 03, in the dryer side, only 01-02 attempts to dry, the Aqualtis, between 03-05 attempts. Even Grandma's Ultima WD860 dries better, the only advantages of the Aqualtis, is the 08KG wash load, steam functions & full/standard size 06KG drying load.

I had a problem recently with the Ultima WD860, it flooded the kitchen for the 03rd time in 06 years, I'm on the look out for a Bosch Logixx 1400 Washer Dryer WFT2800, as a backup to the WD860, should anything dire go wrong with it, as it's not likely that my Uncle'll ditch his WFT2800 in the next year or 02.

Which's your favourite out of my garage line up? Excluding the Aqualtis, as that's my Mum & Dad's.
 
Servis

Without a doubt the Servis sappire. I've only ever come across 1 Servis quartz style machine in 14 years of working in my job, but i couldn't save it because it was in a very bad state of repair. My all time favourite dream machine still yet to be found, but i doubt i will never ever come across one is the very first automatic my parents owned which was a TI Creda rhythm spin square door. That was some washer, the spin & timer noises that machine made were so unlike any other washer. A very unique piece of engineering.
 
Hi Craig

Yes, it's a great Washer Dryer, the Sapphire, it does alarm me a bit when it makes a scraping noise, which depends on the load in the drum, if I were going to change anything about it, I'd definitely prolong the 1300RPM part of the spin from its 20 seconds like on the old Hotpoints. I'd also change its operational tendencies, e.g. on spin phases, to keep the user/owner of it guessing, other than me.

I'd increase the spin from 1300 to either 1700RPM or 1900RPM, increase H2O levels, incorporate spin phases during the wash & rinses, to boost washing & rinsing performance.

I've added the 03 links below, to give you ideas on my thoughts, to how the oparational & rogramming should've been programmed & I'd change them to.

Spin Wash example


Progressive spin example


RinseSpin example


ToBe...
 
CJ

Awesome line up. The Servis Sapphire is my fave - never seen one working though!

The Hotpoint 9566 reminds me of my nans later style WM41 which was just a washing machine - but an excellent one!

Is that the one that boschlover1997 - ilovemiele1- is getting?

Thanks

Jacob

P.S Just noticed your not that far from me :)
 
Sapphire Cycle Operation

Sapphire Cycle Operation - Now

01. Fill with water.
02. Heat H2O to selected programme set temperature interspersed with slow tumbles.
03. Wash laundry load.
04. Pump out wash water & spin at 90RPM (Distribution speed).
05. Fill & Rinse 01.
06. Pump out water/spin at 90RPM, ramp upto 1000RPM for 20 secs. RinseSpin 01
07. Fill & Rinse 02.
08. Pump out water/spin at 90RPM, ramp upto 1000RPM for 20 secs. RinseSpin 02
09. Fill & Rinse 03 (Fabric softener added).
10. Pump out water/spin at 90RPM, ramp to 600RPM, ramp to 1000RPM, ramp to 1300RPM for 20 secs. Spin Dry 1300
11. Slow down from 1300RPM & stop, or commence selected drying time period.

Sapphire Cycle Operation - My change in opperation sequence

01. Fill with water.
02. Heat H2O to 20°C interspersed with tumbles.
03. Wash laundry load at 20°C.
04. Heat H2O to 30°C interspersed with tumbles.
05. Wash laundry load at 30°C.
06. Heat H2O to 40°C interspersed with tumbles.
07. Wash laundry load at 40°C.
08. Heat H2O to 50°C interspersed with tumbles.
09. Wash laundry load at 50°C.
10. Heat H2O to 60°C interspersed with tumbles.
11. Wash laundry load at 60°C.
12. Pump out wash water & ramp upto 1000RPM for 40 secs.
13. Fill & drain cooldown rinse. Rinse 01.
14. Pump out water/spin at 90RPM, ramp upto 1300RPM, progressive ramp to 1300RPM, hold at 1300RPM for 02 mins, progressive ramp to stop, with filling as ramp down. RinseSpin 01
15. Fill & drain cooldown rinse. Rinse 02.
16. Pump out water/spin at 90RPM, ramp upto 1150RPM for 30 secs. RinseSpin 02
17. Fill & Rinse 03 (Interspersed spins to boost rinsing performance). Rinse 03
18. Pump out water/ramp to 1200RPM, progressive ramp to stop, with filling as ramp down. RinseSpin 03
19. Fill & Rinse 04 (Interspersed spins to boost rinsing performance). Rinse 04
20. Pump out water/ramp to 800RPM, progressive ramp to stop, with filling as ramp down. RinseSpin 04
21. Fill & Rinse 05.
22. Pump out water/progressive ramp to 600RPM, to ramp upto 1000RPM, ramp to 1300RPM, hold at 1300RPM for 04 mins, progressive ramp to stop. Spin Dry 1300.
23. Slow down from 1300RPM & stop, or commence selected drying time period.
 
HotpointFan

Hi Jacob.

The 9566, was, going to ILoveMiele1, but he had to pull out.
My Uncle had an 800 Electronic 9525W, he gave that to a friend of mine, the 9566 is going to my Uncle, once his bathroom has been revamped, the 9566's sat waiting in a friend's garage.
 
Water pressure

Gary,

The water pressure in my house is really strong now, but that was not always the case up until a few years back till i modernized the house & a new water main was put in. A keep sake picture of one of the furred up joints.

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Water Pressure

Craig,

When I first got my Logic Premier, I put it onto programme "F" Special Treatments, it filled ok, but when it got to the point of tumbling, it span too fast, roughly 0250RPM, causing the intaken water to be forced out of the drum vent slot at the back of the machine, lucky it was in the garage, not the kitchen, upon it being tested through a full test wash on programme "D" Non Fastcoloureds, it ran fine, no issues what so ever.

Once it returned to Grandma's, we tried testing for ourselves, it blew the main house fuse. We had Coopers (Repair shop we took it to, our local), come back to inspect it, The PCB/Module board had come adrift of the cabinet. Grandma's handyman, Dave, secured the board away from the suspension pillar - the cause of the fuse blowing, it's worked perfectly since, apart from a squeak when drying, maybe a dry bearing? Dave also fashioned a makeshift water connection, to connect it to the garden hose, but I'll be damned if I know where it's buggered off to, after Dad removed the connector, when he plumbed it back in here at home, but since the removal & where ig ot put, other stuff's been moved since then.

The original verdict over the Logic Premier's issue, before the loose board discovery, was, "The garage plumbing's too strong for a machine as old as this". I'm veering to it being the board that caused the over tumbling issue in the 01st place, what do you think?

I was absolutely heartbroken when Dad decided not to repair our EcoLogic 1200 AutoWasher, and there was one in Coopers too, when ours went up the spout, in the end it sat wedged between fridge freezer & sink cupboard unit, before being stripped for useable parts, Grandma got the inner drum, like your Logic's, for growing her Rhubarb in.

If I had a pic of the rear of the Logic Premier, I'd post it, but the auction I bought it from'll've been deleted from Ebay's records by now, but there're plenty of vids of it running, on my YT channel, my username's WD860.

Link to my channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/WD860?feature=guide

CJ
 
Hoover Logic 1200 wont wash or rinse but spins

Hi Optima i have a washing machine similar to yours.Put a wash on today it reached the final rinse and would not continue.I turn it to final spin which it did.When tried a new wash it only made sound as if it had just finished a rinse .Machine just wont wash or rinse.Any solutions PLEASE vonmal
 
Logic 1200

First thing i would do is to turn the thumb dial to the next off positon & press the start button, if it still clicks in that off position wait till it stops clicking then select a new wash programme, hopefully that will sort it Vonmal.

Any chance of a picture of your Logic, it would be great to see it.
 
Might be worth trying it on a few different wash programmes to see if it works on some but not others. It could be a burnt out solenoid coil in one of the water valves. If you have a multimeter you can check these on the ohms range (with machine unplugged from mains!). They should read about 3000 ohms so any reading infinity ohms have failed. You could also check the pressure vessel, as they sometimes get bunged up with soap powder residue. This is a small plastic bottle fitted near the bottom of the tub backplate. It can be removed and washed out.
 

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