Hotpoint Twinnies -Whats the difference, deluxe vs plus model

[hoovermaticpete]

Hi guys
Just wondered if you could tell me what the difference between the hotpoint supermatic deluxe (e.g. 9414) and plus (9404) models is? Do they both have same spin speed and autorinse etc.?

Thanks
Pete

 

[chestermikeuk]

Supermatics

Morning Pete

The difference with these machines is the "AutoRinse" feature, the 9414 has it the autorinse and has the hose connector on the back, I have seen 9404`s modified to have the circle rinse spray lid and the connector on the back for manual rinsing though!!!

The Hotpoint rinse system is a slower even spray around the clothes, I prefer the Hoover for speed, but its a very effective system, just slower!!!

Did you get the hoover??, Mike

 

[hoovermaticpete]

Hi Mike,

Thanks for the info. Yes, I did get the Hoover. Its great - I was really impressed how clean it gets things so fast, and its good fun. But guess what...?

Now I want another one as well! (Dangerous game this isn't it if you have limited space!!)

Quite fancied a Supermatic as I guess the wash action is gentler and its possible to do a half load with the agitator being bottom mount. Quite like the idea of the superfast 3100 rpm spin aswell and the shower rinse.
Thought I could get both going on the sunday washday - Hotpoint for the more delicate or tangleable garments (understand now why the Hoover's sometimes called the Tanglematic now!), Hoover for bedding, towels or any other dirtier garments.
Thats my "logical" justification I tried on my girlfriend anyway, not sure she was so convinced! Really just fancy one for the extra variety and fun.

By the way, saw youtube video of you with Adam Hart-Davis, fantastic selection of Hoovers (of the vacuum variety) you have got.

Pete

 

[launderess]

Hoover Tangles

Best way to avoid items becoming tangled during Hoover TT washing is to follow some basic steps. These are outlined in the owner's manual and the service/repair manual:

1 - Do not over load the wash tub. Only wash the amount of items that will turn over easily. You want to see the wash water whipping about.

2- Do not exceed the longest wash cycle time (approx 4 minutes). Long cycles can and will often lead to a tangles. Though IMHO have found if one has the proper amount of items in the tub, and get to the timer before it shuts the machine off, you can go one more cycle (for a total of 8 minutes), without too much problems. Again, key is to make sure the wash water and items are moving freely round and round. If thngs slow down and or the wash action stops.....

Thing about using a Hoover or any twin-tub, there really isn't a need to overload the unit. If one has a large volume of washing to get on with, just keep things moving between the wash and rinse/spinner tubs. That is what the unit was designed to do. Many persons get stuck thinking along an "automatic" type of washing, leaving thing too long in the wash and or over loading the wash tub in the hopes of getting more done faster. Trouble with the later is even if you did get a vast amount of items clean in the wash tub, the spinner won't handle it, or not without cramming and packing things down so tightly, you'll end up with very harshly creased laundry.

Remember for the spin rinse to work as designed, water must be able to reach down into the bottom of the basket and give all fibers a good soaking. Too much laundry in the spin basket not only makes this difficult, but also will strain the motor as the unit tries to cope with an overly heavy weight.

L.

 

[launderess]

Oh, And Another Thing

When using a twin-tub, one is going to have to return to habits of our grandmothers and pre-treat stains, and or pre-soak. The short wash cycles needed to avoid tangling aren't going to allow the enzymes in modern detergents enough contact time.

 

[hoovermaticpete]

Pre soaking

Hi Launderess,

Thanks for the advice, I haven't really found any need to pre treat or soak - the Hoovermatic with its vigorous action seems to get things much cleaner than the automatic even in 4 mins! Thats one thing I'm really impressed with. I haven't been using modern automatic detergent though, but good old phosphate based high suds detergent - maybe thats why?
You're right about the overloading - makes a real mess. I think I've got the wash loads about right but it does definitely tangle more and more vigorous than the Hotpoint appears to be. Its ok most of the time but put a few long items like shirts or some of my girlfriend's skirts with waist ties in and it still tangles them no matter how light the load. Guess its just the nature of the beast.

Pete

 

[launderess]

There are two schools of thought to loading a Hoover TT.

Some say to pile the laundry into the wash water, start the machine and let things go from there. Others, and must admit am in this category, start the washer and place items in one by one, until wash action seems to start slowing down. To me it is easier to do things this way, than to mess about trying to take items out of the wash tub in order to remedy any over loading problem.

 

[launderess]

Phosphate High Sudsing Detergent

Yes, that will do it! *LOL*

Great stuff.

Just make sure you are not causing suds lock in the spin tub. Your owner's manual should tell you the tell tale signs.

Find cannot use most American liquid detergents in my Hoover, as they create too much froth in the spin basket. Well that and they are very hard to rinse out.

 

[chestermikeuk]

Soap Sudz!!!

What powders do you use in the twinnies??, I switch between Persil for a boil wash and Daz, occasionally will I use Ariel automatic for quicker rinsing...

To cut down the foaming on the Hoover TT I spray some water in the spin can before placing in the clothes, sometimes a drop of conditioner as well just to cut the sudz, although not if using sudz return!!!

The beauty of these machines is that you are in control and can adapt to your ways of using it, no one right way as long as the clothes are clean & rinsed!!!

Just doing a Persil boil wash!!!

 

[hoovermaticpete]

ppwders

I've been using co-op own brand 'ultra' for twin-tubs, smells nice, not too strong and really foamy, did'nt like the ariel so much. Also tried instead of powder, grating coop household soap which appears just like fairy original. Put in some borax for the whites. The soap/borax worked really well actually. Don't put through the tumble dryer after though - any trace of soap left goes ransid smelling with the heat as it must be animal fat based. Clothes smelt like beef dripping!!