I Bit the Buillet -- The Matag A407 is Mine

[hippiedoll]

Eurekastar:

DARN!

Sorry the hairdryer trick didn't work for you.

Another thing you can try is shoving a towel down the barrel of the agitator and then pour the boiling water down the barrel so the towel soaks up the hot water & sits at the bottom of the barrel, warming up the paddock to soften it some. After about 5 minutes, try pulling up on the agitator. See if maybe you have luck with that tip?

Keeping my fingers crossed for you...
)

 

[eurekastar]

Agitator from Hell!

Well, I tried everything I know to do to get that darn agitator off, including a slide hammer that I borrowed from a friend. However, it wouldn't budge! So I'm in the process of destroying it little by little. It is determined to stay on but I'm slowly winning.

I found a used replacement on Ebay. But would there be a suitable upgrade to a higher performing agitator or would it be best to stay the original?

Thanks again for all the help and advice! After I finally got the tub cover off, I was surprised to find almost no rust around the lip of the outer tub. I hope that is a good omen! 

 

[eurekastar]

Success!!!

The agitator fought like hell, but it didn't win!  It was no match for patience, my Ryobi mutli-tool saw, and a hammer and nail bar.  I gave it a blast of PB Blaster and I'll let it set until tomorrow afternoon.  Then I'll clean up the shaft and tub nut with a wire brush.  We'll see how stubborn the tub nut is!

 

[good-shepherd]

We'll see how stubborn the tub nut is!

After the battle the agitator put up I would just split the nut with sharp cold chisel and save your strength for the mounting stem.

 

[hippiedoll]

DANG....

That agitator got KNOCKED THE F*CK OUT!
LOL...
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[eurekastar]

What am I looking at?

I want to make sure I understand what I'm seeing before I begin chiseling away at the tub nut.  There is so much build up that it is difficult to tell if what I'm seeing is the same as what I've seen in a few Youtube videos!

 

Am I seeing the top part of the mounting stem, then the tub nut and then the washer below it?  I brushed away a lot of build up to reveal the lugs on the nut and gave it a few whacks with my spanner wrench and hammer.  Of course it didn't budge.  I'll try again tomorrow before I try to break the nut with a chisel.

 

Again, thanks again for any insights!

 

[good-shepherd]

I want to make sure I understand

Yes, you're seeing it correctly, that nut is what you want to split with a chisel.
A new one is included with the replacement mounting stem

 

[eurekastar]

Yay! I finally got the spanner nut chiseled off!

Because I had to chisel off the spanner nut, I won't be surprised if I end up having to cut off the mounting stem.  I have it soaking in PB-Blaster.  Tomorrow is a day off, so we'll what happens!

 

[good-shepherd]

Whew,, that looks like an archeological excavation with all the years of crud on there.

Bet that machine saw lots of cold washes in hard water.

Don't forget to remove the set screw.

 

[eurekastar]

One More Step Down!

It's been a cool, rainy day in the Texas Panhandle but a perfect day to tackle that mounting stem with my angle grinder and a couple of metal cutting blades.  I was really afraid that I would cut into the threads on the transmission shaft but managed to avoid that.  The boot seal was completely rotten too, so a leak was in its future.  I'll remove the outer tub and transmission tomorrow.  Monday is a holiday, so I'll tackle the transmission then.  Yay!

 

[eurekastar]

Outer Tub Is Out!

I finally removed the outer tub this evening, revealing quite a mess that needs to be cleaned up.  The tub supports need some extra attention to clean up forty-four years of crud and rust.  I had to chisel off the bearing sleeve and discovered that there are THREE relief channels.  One was filled with so much crud and grime that it was almost unrecognizable! 

 

I think I'll tackle the filth inside the cabinet, the inner tub, and wash basket before getting into the transmission.  All that mess is bugging me!

 

Thanks again to everyone for all the help and advice too!  This has been a fun project!

 

[combo52]

Great Progress

Unfortunately the agitator shaft is so corroded and pitted you need another transmission [ or at least a cover and agitator shaft ] if you want this washer to work for long with a new seal and tub bearing.

 

We always save good transmissions from the many Maytag's we scrap every year when they are in great condition. This is the challenge of trying save a washer that has been so badly abused by poor washing practices for so many years.

 

John L.

 

[good-shepherd]

the filth inside the cabinet

Might as well try to unscrew the cabinet from the base at this point, much easier to clean that way.

Maybe John could sell you one his salvaged Helical Drive transmissions?

 

[eurekastar]

Transmission Purchase

I would certainly be glad to buy a transmission if the price is right.  I really don't want to install an orbital drive transmission if I can avoid it.  I found a helical drive on Ebay but it appeared to be for a standard tub model. 

 

[combo52]

Transmissions for Maytag helical drive washers

Hi Bill your machine has a Pitman transmission now you can also use the orbital transmission. helical drive does not refer to the type of transmission in the washer. You can use either transmission in a helical drive Maytag Washer.

John L

 

[combo52]

Transmissions for Maytag helical drive washers

Hi Bill your machine has a Pitman transmission now you can also use the orbital transmission. helical drive does not refer to the type of transmission in the washer. You can use either transmission in a helical drive Maytag Washer.

John L

 

[eurekastar]

Well, the archaeological excavation project turned into a major mining operation!  I'll treat the rust with POR-15 and the outside tub should be good to go!

 

[good-shepherd]

for a standard tub model.

You could swap the top plate from the eBay trans onto your trans case.

 

[eurekastar]

Ebay Transmission

This is a photo of the Ebay transmission.  How does it look?  The seller is asking $60 plus $40 shipping.

 

[good-shepherd]

Looks decent, very little corrosion. But who knows what the condition of the bearings are.
I'd ask the seller to check for any play on the agitator shaft.