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I think what keeps me from liking the new HE top loaders is looking at the size of the drum and how little the loads are. I see a drum that size and I want to fill it up. What happened to the 18 lb. loads we got so used to doing? These all seem to work well swishing 5 lbs. of laundry around. I can see doing 4 loads in these compared to 1 in a front loader or an older style machine. Whirlpools commercials on TV are a prime example of this. A kid poops himself or barfs on a parent and 1 outfit is thrown in. They do this multiple times a day. That machine is running 4 to 5 hours a day washing such a minimum amount of clothes. They never show any of these machines I feel with a normal large load. I guess there must be a reason why.

Jon
 
we could have a field day with that one alone.....washer size, versus loads washed....

just to be clear, these TL HE machines will wash a huge load, no question about that...

and interesting how from the 60'/70's, we went from machines that only washed full size loads, to wanting variable water levels for smaller loads....

trying to wrap my brain around the concept of needing such a huge machine....most larger families got along with smaller capacities...

and also, paying upwards of 3000.00 for a set, to wash ONE comforter!...what?, maybe every two months.......a laundromat would cost roughly 10 to 12 dollars?....

having two king size beds myself, a standard 3 cuft washer, to a perfectly matched (double the size of the washers capacity) 7 cuft dryer......that is all you need!

todays HE machines need full size loads to balance correctly, and for the dryers sensors to sense the load as well....

but yeah, I do know people who will use a standard full size machine, full water levels, to wash one outfit at a time!

with that kind of thought process....makes you wonder why these families don't drive a school bus to cart around 2 kids and groceries!...

just thoughts of making purchases within your budget and practical needs....
 
I routinely wash full capacity loads in my Maytag Centinnial with an agipeller it handles these loads beautifully. We have a cal king bed and I can wash our heaviest bedspreads, comforters and blankets with ease, using the Bulky cycle.

All the other loads that are mixed small and large items are washed either using the Powerwash or Deep Water cycles, which also perform excellently. The amount of water used in these cycle is equivalent to the amount of water FL's used to use before governement regulatory intervention.

I used to be a big proponent of FL's and have owned 6 different FL's over my lifetime. The last one, an LG was a big disappointment for me. The only way I could get a sufficient amt of water was to use the Bulky cycle with water plus option,but them I was limited to med or slow spins speeds, so the superior extraction qualities of an FL's were compromised. After the cycle was complete, I would then need to run a separate spin cycle on high or extra high. To me the was just too much monkey business in order to enjoy the advantage of max extraction, and defeated the whole purpose of having an automatic washer.

If I need to babysit a washing machine to get what I want and need from it I may as well be using a wringer washer and get my whole weeks wash done in an hour, just sayin. But since I don't have the room for a laundry tub, or a bathroom big enough to roll a wringer washer to the tub for rinsing I'm limited to having an automatic. My Maytag HE TL suits me just fine.

Eddie
 
The real reason why people want HE washers, is they have a larger capacity. Traditional top load automatic washers don't have the biggest capacity, but that was back in the day when you separated everything from whites, to colors, to delicates, to permanent press, and by the time you separated everything, you did not need to have a washer with a huge tub! Speed Queen top load washers of today have the largest capacity for a traditional top load automatic washer, and are simple to use! I would rather wash my large, bulky bedding at the laundromat, then spend $3,000.00 on a washer and dryer that has the largest capacity!
 
I think it all boils down to preference and what you really want. Honestly, the reason I bought the LG made front load set I have was because it would actually wash a king size feather and down comforter and the dryer will dry it. I didn't want to go to the laundromat anymore because I consider that time wasted when I could be doing something else and it seemed silly to spend upwards of $20 every time I took it. Regardless of what anyone says, front loaders do a better job with bulky, heavy items like this and do a good job of cleaning and rinsing it. Consumer reports pointed that out in the 50's. In top load machines stuff like that tends to float and never get completely wet. The Maytag machine it replaced was not even capable of moving it around in the tub. I also think that HE top loaders simply cannot do the same job with a really huge capacity load. I have watched many videos of them and my machine will not only hold more, it does a much better job of washing, rinsing and extracting water from the clothes with NO lint problem at all. So for those who want to rave on about their HE top loaders, good luck to you. They just cannot do the same job a front load machine does with the same amount of water by DESIGN. Top load machine require much more water to do the same thing as a front loader does. They have managed to make HE top loaders that will do what some consider an adequate job and to many that is good enough. I have seen no evidence of that myself though.
 
HE top load washers are terrible! If they made front load washers with mechanical timers and controls, I would not mind having a front loader, but it is that electronic crap I don't like! I don't understand why they have to electronics on EVERYTHING, that is very annoying!!
 
I will say that the Whirlpool Calypso is a interesting HE top loader, and cleans better than most HE top loaders. Top Load washers will always be, The True Althentic Automatic Washer. Front load washers are not as automatic (except for vintage front loaders) as a Top Load Automatic Washer.
 
 
<blockquote>Maytag85:  Front load washers are not as automatic (except for vintage front loaders) as a Top Load Automatic Washer.</blockquote> In what way is that?  I had a Duet for a few weeks for testing after repairs.  Load clothes, add detergent, select cycle, press Start.  A while later take out clean clothes, transfer to dryer.  Same process as any toploader.  A frontloader would be my choice if I had to buy a new washer tomorrow.
 
Front loaders are automatic washers, but the front loader my folks bought I never trusted. It got off balance to the point where it would begin to jump, and and would move (yes the leveling feet were leveled) and it was scary! Top load washers get laundry done faster, than a front loader. Vintage front loaders are just as fast as a traditional top load washer. If I were to buy a new washing machine, it would be a Speed Queen top load washer. Speed Queen is the only company left that builds traditional top load washers.
 
 
<blockquote>"Maytag85:  Front loaders are automatic washers, but the front loader my folks bought I never trusted. It got off balance to the point where it would begin to jump, and and would move (yes the leveling feet were leveled) and it was scary!"</blockquote> To the contrary, the majority of frontloaders nowadays are overly sensitive to spin balancing to the point that they'll reduce the speed or abort completely instead of allowing the tub to impact the cabinet.
 
may not be everyones cup of tea....

but many FLers now hold up to three times the amount of what a traditional TLer would...

so if it were to take roughly 35 minutes to wash one load in a regular machine...times that by 3....your well over an hour and a half in time frame...that's also 3 times the amount of hot water and detergent....

factor in a wash and three rinses....plus a higher spin speed for less drying time

for some areas, water and sewer rates are outrageously expensive....saving where they can is a priority....
 
(au·to·mat·ic)
*(of a device or process) working by itself with little or no direct human control.*

My laundry process:

Sort laundry
Toss into washer
*PRESS START*
-Walk Away-
*RETURN WHEN IT PLAYS ITS TUNES-
-Toss wet load into dryer, start dryer, walk away-
-Remove dried laundry when dryer stops, fold/iron, store-
End.

I carried that procedure over from my old TL.
 
There is nobody who will "convert"me to a top loading washer. As you may know,My opinion from experience with many local and foreign made front loading and top loading washers is in favor of the fls. No agitator blades that wear and tare fabrics,less water,detergent,bleach,fabric softener and electricity. Fewer moving parts and/or a direct drive mechanism. The many I've had once brought back to life lasted me years with few,if any,repairs. I take care and maintain my machines teaching those who use them how to correctly use them. The doors of the washers stay ajat when not in use and do not get mildewed. My worst ones being the Neptunes. The best ones being the LGs. I've tinted fabrics,washed area rugs,car mats,shoes,pillows,stuffed teddy bears and table cloths with great results and no drama. Every top loading washer I've had tore up fabrics and left bleach marks on my clothes. They didn't spin as fast and I always had to use the second rinse for clear rinse water and no excess suds. They're quieter and more fun to watch. If I worked for EL, the front loaders they produce would have the same body design as the older Laundromats did but with the direct drive and a stainless steel inner and outer tub.
 
 
Washed 15 shirts in my Calypso yesterday.  44 mins, including the standard 5 rinses.  107°F wash, cold rinse.  4 tbsp Persil 2-in-1, 2 tbsp STPP, light dose of Snuggle lavender softener.  Dried perfectly on auto-sensor.
 
like it or not wasing machhines have change

i can officaly say that washing machines have officaly change the last old fashion top load washer is speed queen but how long before they decide to start making he top load washers sure they have the timer dial on there 432 model but mostly these days everything is electronic it also makes me wonder what will the washer dryer model line front load or top load will be in 2018 because models change over the year so what is top of the line today might be replace by newer model next year take for exemple the maytag frontload washer model 8200 5.2 capacaty might be the top of the line front load today but will it be in 2018 or will it be redesign that is to be seen

http://https//www.maytag.ca/en_ca/w...nd-powerwash-system-5.2-cu.-ft.mhw8200fw.html
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Hey Nick, I should point out this is a really thick comforter so it normally takes about 90 minutes to dry in the Harmony dryer, longer if I don't take it out and reverse it about 60 minutes into the dry cycle. I used the normal cycle in the LG which is 1:10 minutes. I don't understand why you cannot select the fastest spin on the Bulky cycle, makes no sense what so so ever. If anytime you need a super fast spin speed its with bulky items.

The 1947 GE top-loader finished in 33 minutes and with a 9 minute final spin at 1140rpm without needing any special routines to balance itself, it just simply spins. The sheets are so well spun out of that machine that they took less than 20 minutes to dry. For a total of 0:52 minutes to wash and dry. 10 minutes to make the bed 1:02, back downstairs to the basement with 8 minutes left to go in the LG.

I have little doubt that the sheets were perfectly clean, soft and smelled wonderfully from the GE. I thing the LG is excellent at cleaning, but I don't have very dirty things to wash overall. The dirtiest things I have are yellow micro-fibre cleaning rags from Costco. They never come out completely clean from any washer of mine even from the LG on sanitary-steam. So I haven't really noticed any marked improvement in cleaning ability using the LG over any of my other best vintage top loaders. Of course a lot of this can be attributed to major improvements of detergents over years. I mainly use white Tide-Free Pods and Liquid.

Also the idea of the sediment at the bottom of my solid tubs is very rare, a few of times a year I'll wipe something out with a paper towel, but again it hardly ever happens. I have never once needed to vacuum out a washer in 20 years of having these early machines.
 
Those HE washers have a 10 year warranty on the motor, but the electronics is what usually goes bad first. Speed Queen is the only company who builds their machines with a life time warranty on the inner and outer tub, and has a better than any other washer sold today. A Speed Queen doesn't cost as much as those fancy Samsung and LG top load washers, and they have the best warranty in the industry, and they are built to last!
 
SQ is good....and most preferred....

but as with anything made, your going to have a few glitches along the way.....

go back and search as we have a few members who would question that SQ warranty, and what they had to go through to get that warranty to cover their product....

a true test of a warranty, like insurance, is wait until you need/use it, then see what happens!...some are good with it, some are not....

best never to assume anything!
 

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