lightedcontrols
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Glad that I stayed in Atlanta with family over the Thanksgiving holiday! Take a look! Mark
If you travel at all, you need to see this!
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I understand that the point of all this is that hotels aren't necessarily clean .. but as for the glasses, I've never stayed in a hotel or motel that had glasses for guest use. I'm a budget-traveler, LOL, there have always been disposable plastic cups.
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Yuk! I'll better remember this next time I'm in a hotel!
I have seen glasses in hotel rooms
but I'll never drink out of one again thats for sure!
But lately I've only seen plastic wrapped cups.
We once had a cleaning woman fill the toilet bowl with cleaner and swosh a towel in there, then used that to clean all the surfaces of the bathroom,then a quick flush and the whole room was done and "spotless"!
Thats gross!
but I'll never drink out of one again thats for sure!
But lately I've only seen plastic wrapped cups.
We once had a cleaning woman fill the toilet bowl with cleaner and swosh a towel in there, then used that to clean all the surfaces of the bathroom,then a quick flush and the whole room was done and "spotless"!
Thats gross!
Last year while staying at a hotel in downtown Washington, D.C., I confronted the director of housekeeping with this and a few other issues.
The root of the problem is the hotels are exploiting the cheap labor force that exists amongst the illegal invaders from south of our borders.And they will continue to ignore the law untill it is forced upon them. And of course, as long as the "Smirking Chimp" and his corrupt cronies occupy our Whitehouse, little will change. Greed hath no boundries.
Most of those folks are peasants and may only know the most basic of personal hygenic skills,(some only bathe once a week as it is!) never mind how to properly sanitize dishes and utensils. Many have never even been taught to wash their hands after using the bathroom so it is not likely they will "get" the concept of cleaning items in a hotel room. They are only in it for the money, and do what they feel they must do to get through their back-breaking day.
Hotel management is VERY aware of what goes on, hence the one hotel chain mentioned in the news report that "refuses to comment".The hotel chains are just exploiting the cheap labor and won't even bother to teach the peasants the most rudimentary of personal hygene skills. The corrupt county politicians who pretend to be surprised at the findings are laughable. Like all other politicians, for a price they will turn the other way. And, in the local Atlanta area the politicians are famously corrupt.
As long as the business continue to hire the flood of illegal peasants who posess no sanitary knowledge this will continue.
BTW it also applies to restaurants. I personally have witnessed time and time again (in Atlanta area restaurants), where restaurant employees would enter the restroom while I was in there and would do their business, zip up and walk right out the door to the kitchen to resume their work----as dishwashers or cooks. Don't eat the salad!
And while I'm on my soap-box, this is the same reason we keep having these problems with E.Coli and other infections from fresh vegetables. The peasants working the fields don't stop picking the vegetables and flag down a Cadillac to take to a pristine restroom facility where they can use a proper bathroom and clean up afterwards----------oh no----they just relieve themselves right there in the field so they don't miss a moment of work/pay and keep right on going-----no telling whats on those hands either.
So that is why we are being told wo be careful and wash all vegetables and fruits so well. I personally use a product called "Veggie Wash", but I know people who literally wash everything in a sink full of Dawn spiked wash water and then rinse them. If one already has a reduced immune system, it is even more important.
Personally I don't trust anything that hasn't been cooked anymore, boyfriends included. FEH!
The root of the problem is the hotels are exploiting the cheap labor force that exists amongst the illegal invaders from south of our borders.And they will continue to ignore the law untill it is forced upon them. And of course, as long as the "Smirking Chimp" and his corrupt cronies occupy our Whitehouse, little will change. Greed hath no boundries.
Most of those folks are peasants and may only know the most basic of personal hygenic skills,(some only bathe once a week as it is!) never mind how to properly sanitize dishes and utensils. Many have never even been taught to wash their hands after using the bathroom so it is not likely they will "get" the concept of cleaning items in a hotel room. They are only in it for the money, and do what they feel they must do to get through their back-breaking day.
Hotel management is VERY aware of what goes on, hence the one hotel chain mentioned in the news report that "refuses to comment".The hotel chains are just exploiting the cheap labor and won't even bother to teach the peasants the most rudimentary of personal hygene skills. The corrupt county politicians who pretend to be surprised at the findings are laughable. Like all other politicians, for a price they will turn the other way. And, in the local Atlanta area the politicians are famously corrupt.
As long as the business continue to hire the flood of illegal peasants who posess no sanitary knowledge this will continue.
BTW it also applies to restaurants. I personally have witnessed time and time again (in Atlanta area restaurants), where restaurant employees would enter the restroom while I was in there and would do their business, zip up and walk right out the door to the kitchen to resume their work----as dishwashers or cooks. Don't eat the salad!
And while I'm on my soap-box, this is the same reason we keep having these problems with E.Coli and other infections from fresh vegetables. The peasants working the fields don't stop picking the vegetables and flag down a Cadillac to take to a pristine restroom facility where they can use a proper bathroom and clean up afterwards----------oh no----they just relieve themselves right there in the field so they don't miss a moment of work/pay and keep right on going-----no telling whats on those hands either.
So that is why we are being told wo be careful and wash all vegetables and fruits so well. I personally use a product called "Veggie Wash", but I know people who literally wash everything in a sink full of Dawn spiked wash water and then rinse them. If one already has a reduced immune system, it is even more important.
Personally I don't trust anything that hasn't been cooked anymore, boyfriends included. FEH!
Oh---and don't forget-----
The blankets and pillows on those crowded aircraft!
If you don't unwrap them from a sealed plastic bag----assume they have been drooled upon, sneezed upon and used as a kleenex or worse, full of khitsoynim!
The blankets and pillows on those crowded aircraft!
If you don't unwrap them from a sealed plastic bag----assume they have been drooled upon, sneezed upon and used as a kleenex or worse, full of khitsoynim!
I know firsthand how "unclean" most places are. Restaurants, offices, homes - on an on. In my business, commercial and residential cleaning, I have seen most everything you can imagine. People are pigs, plain and simple. Those who think they are so proper and clean are some of the worst offenders when using a public restroom or even caring for their own homes. Women in particular seem to lose all sense of propriety when they aren't at home. I laugh to myself when I see people acting so pious and proper because I've cleaned their bathrooms and offices and know they are pigs like everyone else.
Walk down the cleaning supply aisle at any store in the country and you will be assaulted by a myriad of products in all colors, scents and styles to help you make the job of keeping house easier. One of the biggest problems for most people is that they are completely ignorant about HOW to clean. Spray and wipe is most all people are capable of. Don't even get me started on the Swiffer Wet Jet POS...
Compounding the problems are not only the ignorance and laziness of the general population but then you have PSA campaigns telling you to turn your water heater temps down and wash clothes in cold water and now, it's perfectly acceptable to wash dishes in a machine at lower temps. As Roger has said many times, Cold-Water Cascade is just around the corner if the trend continues. Dysentery in the dishwasher - lovely.
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Walk down the cleaning supply aisle at any store in the country and you will be assaulted by a myriad of products in all colors, scents and styles to help you make the job of keeping house easier. One of the biggest problems for most people is that they are completely ignorant about HOW to clean. Spray and wipe is most all people are capable of. Don't even get me started on the Swiffer Wet Jet POS...
Compounding the problems are not only the ignorance and laziness of the general population but then you have PSA campaigns telling you to turn your water heater temps down and wash clothes in cold water and now, it's perfectly acceptable to wash dishes in a machine at lower temps. As Roger has said many times, Cold-Water Cascade is just around the corner if the trend continues. Dysentery in the dishwasher - lovely.
Dysentery - Wikipedia
Better yet, grow your own.
My gripe sort of runs in the opposite face of all this. While I think cleanliness is extremely important, throwing gallons of toxic chemicals at the problem is not necessarily the way to go either. God equipped our bodies with an amazing feature called an autoimmune system that fights invading diseases amazingly well. Our autoimmune system is designed to fight off all sorts of disease and vermin that can enter our systems from the natural world. Yes, it can sometimes be overwhelmed and then you get sick. Prior to the advent of indoor plumbing, this issue was quite common. Yes, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. The thing is that our autoimmune system is actually quite capable of fighting what I would call a "normal" level of germ infection...the approximate level and combination of germs that one would typically find in a lush forest.
Now, with that being said, one of the problems of humankind is due to our own ingenuity we can easily exceed these levels and overwhelm our immune system. This is the point of cleaning. When cleaning, I believe it is best to remove the conditions that would be favorable for germs to grow in. The problem comes in when we take it too far and start attacking the germs with human-created toxic chemicals. When this occurs, two things happen.
First, is that chemical resistant germs and diseases crop up that cannot be killed off with the typical chemicals. This means that cleaning chemicals end up needing to be re-forumlated to be even more toxic. The worst of it is that not only are these germs resistant to the toxic chemicals, they are also resistant to our own autoimmune systems! The second problem is with the chemicals themselves. Our bodies were not designed to filter out and remove these toxic man-made chemicals, so while we may not get sick from infection, we end up getting sick from being poisioned!
Washing fruits and veggies is a good thing, but I wouldn't take it anywhere past washing with pure water unless the washing material says that it is all natural and you can identify all the materials it is made with. Yes, it's an excellent idea to wash the stuff to also remove all the pesticides and fertilizers that were thrown on the plants during the growth process...better yet, just buy organic! I didn't get a chance to see the video since it was removed, but Gyrafoam does have an excellent point...proper cleaning methods is an important way to prevent infection. Most people however do NOT know how to properly clean things, and just want to dowse things in heavy chemicals and let them do the work, especially the hotel clerks.
Now, with that being said, one of the problems of humankind is due to our own ingenuity we can easily exceed these levels and overwhelm our immune system. This is the point of cleaning. When cleaning, I believe it is best to remove the conditions that would be favorable for germs to grow in. The problem comes in when we take it too far and start attacking the germs with human-created toxic chemicals. When this occurs, two things happen.
First, is that chemical resistant germs and diseases crop up that cannot be killed off with the typical chemicals. This means that cleaning chemicals end up needing to be re-forumlated to be even more toxic. The worst of it is that not only are these germs resistant to the toxic chemicals, they are also resistant to our own autoimmune systems! The second problem is with the chemicals themselves. Our bodies were not designed to filter out and remove these toxic man-made chemicals, so while we may not get sick from infection, we end up getting sick from being poisioned!
Washing fruits and veggies is a good thing, but I wouldn't take it anywhere past washing with pure water unless the washing material says that it is all natural and you can identify all the materials it is made with. Yes, it's an excellent idea to wash the stuff to also remove all the pesticides and fertilizers that were thrown on the plants during the growth process...better yet, just buy organic! I didn't get a chance to see the video since it was removed, but Gyrafoam does have an excellent point...proper cleaning methods is an important way to prevent infection. Most people however do NOT know how to properly clean things, and just want to dowse things in heavy chemicals and let them do the work, especially the hotel clerks.
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its on youtube, just search "dirty hotel secrets".
i work at a full-service hotel. the housekeeping dept is equipped with a commercial conveyor style dish machine. i have NEVER seen it run. and ive worked there eight years.
also, i dont think its quite fair to place all the blame on the "illegal peasants" who service the rooms. getting clean glassware up to several floors worth of workers requires a team effort. like at my hotel. im sure more than one non-illegal peasant has to have noticed by now that the dish machine runs almost never. perhaps even a salaried employee or two. management is almost always aware of things like this. they allow it to happen because it saves hours and hours equals $$.
i work at a full-service hotel. the housekeeping dept is equipped with a commercial conveyor style dish machine. i have NEVER seen it run. and ive worked there eight years.
also, i dont think its quite fair to place all the blame on the "illegal peasants" who service the rooms. getting clean glassware up to several floors worth of workers requires a team effort. like at my hotel. im sure more than one non-illegal peasant has to have noticed by now that the dish machine runs almost never. perhaps even a salaried employee or two. management is almost always aware of things like this. they allow it to happen because it saves hours and hours equals $$.
I used to travel a lot - about four week-long trips a year. Mostly in the US, but also to Japan and Ireland.
I recall once calling housekeeping upon checking in and finding dirty drinking glasses in the bathroom. Other times I never suspected the glasses might not have been washed properlty. I assumed they were taken out of the room and replaced with glassware washed in a dishwasher - or at least in hot water with dish detergent in a sink.
oh, and by the way. I believe a little study was done a few years back about hotel room cleanliness in general. Know those great bedspreads that almost every hotel room bed has? Usually padded polyester with a pattern of some sort. Well, the investigating team brought a Wood's light into the rooms. The Wood's light emits a wavelength of UV that fluorecses bright blue-white if it finds semen. Guess what? Every damn bedspread they looked at had spots that fluoresced bright blue-white. Apparently hotel bedpreads are rarely, if ever, washed.
Think about that the next time you flop down on the hotel bed to take a nap before dinner!
I recall once calling housekeeping upon checking in and finding dirty drinking glasses in the bathroom. Other times I never suspected the glasses might not have been washed properlty. I assumed they were taken out of the room and replaced with glassware washed in a dishwasher - or at least in hot water with dish detergent in a sink.
oh, and by the way. I believe a little study was done a few years back about hotel room cleanliness in general. Know those great bedspreads that almost every hotel room bed has? Usually padded polyester with a pattern of some sort. Well, the investigating team brought a Wood's light into the rooms. The Wood's light emits a wavelength of UV that fluorecses bright blue-white if it finds semen. Guess what? Every damn bedspread they looked at had spots that fluoresced bright blue-white. Apparently hotel bedpreads are rarely, if ever, washed.
Think about that the next time you flop down on the hotel bed to take a nap before dinner!
Ah, the hotel housekeeping stories I could tell. But I don't want to gross you out. 
When I stay in a hotel, I always take the spread off and put it in the closet. And I NEVER EVER use the coffeemaker.
Other than that, though, I don't get too worked up about it. You can't live your life as a germophobe.
For what it's worth, the hotel companies I worked for were quite serious about making sure their employees were OK to work in the US. They used third party verification services to make sure that SS numbers and driver's licenses were authentic. Of course, most of them were union hotels, or paying union scale to keep the union out, so that helped quite a bit.
When I stay in a hotel, I always take the spread off and put it in the closet. And I NEVER EVER use the coffeemaker.
Other than that, though, I don't get too worked up about it. You can't live your life as a germophobe.
For what it's worth, the hotel companies I worked for were quite serious about making sure their employees were OK to work in the US. They used third party verification services to make sure that SS numbers and driver's licenses were authentic. Of course, most of them were union hotels, or paying union scale to keep the union out, so that helped quite a bit.
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Believe me the costs of that *CHEAP* labor are immense when
Nothing beats those plug-in heat-up "Air fresehners."
Masking scents sprayed into the air do not elimnate the undelying filth that causes odors and illness. They just cover those things up for the moment.
And BTW, why is a kitchen harder to clean than other rooms?
The greasy film that accumulates from gas combustion and from cooking and frying.
Those air fresheners leave a similar greasy coating on every surface in the room. BRILLIANT IDEA!
Nothing beats those plug-in heat-up "Air fresehners."
Masking scents sprayed into the air do not elimnate the undelying filth that causes odors and illness. They just cover those things up for the moment.
And BTW, why is a kitchen harder to clean than other rooms?
The greasy film that accumulates from gas combustion and from cooking and frying.
Those air fresheners leave a similar greasy coating on every surface in the room. BRILLIANT IDEA!
If you fill a country up with turd-world refugees, does it not become a turd-world nation?
Nothing has changed drastically and ovenight except what we know. This filth has always existed and always will. It's just becoming more common-place as there are greater and greater numbers of "practitioners."
I am beginning to believe home-economics, home-making, personal hygiene, general sanitation, manners, etiquette and social graces should be taught in school. Lawd knows if the adults don't have these skills, how can same be passed on to their issue (children / DNA replications)?
Nothing has changed drastically and ovenight except what we know. This filth has always existed and always will. It's just becoming more common-place as there are greater and greater numbers of "practitioners."
I am beginning to believe home-economics, home-making, personal hygiene, general sanitation, manners, etiquette and social graces should be taught in school. Lawd knows if the adults don't have these skills, how can same be passed on to their issue (children / DNA replications)?
GROSS!!think twice about camping out in any motel-hotel!Bring your own cups and bedspreads!also shine your UV lamp and see the rat-mouse pee trails and semen stains!
shine your UV lamp.....
oh please!
If there is any optical brightener / bleach at all used (in the detergent or a detergent supplement) to wash the bedding it too will fluoresce with UV light; especially where the undiluted detergent first makes contact with the fabric.
oh please!
If there is any optical brightener / bleach at all used (in the detergent or a detergent supplement) to wash the bedding it too will fluoresce with UV light; especially where the undiluted detergent first makes contact with the fabric.
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Due to the nature of my job, I tend to sleep in many different beds. Most hotels have a crew wing, or floor for airline crews. They SAY that it's set up to provide quiet and privacy when you stay there. But you see, your airline pays the hotel for so many crew nights, which is negotiated by contract. So you can see what this can lead to.
I think some of the crew rooms are vacuumed maybe weekly. The sheets most of the time get changed every night. But there have been occasions I have gotten into the bed and found a post it note down by my feet indicating that the last occupant was from X airlines two days earlier. Also while the guest rooms for full paying guests may be nice, the crew rooms usually have the ratty furniture (frayed fabrics, stained tables, etc.)
It used to be years ago we got to stay in the top hotels for our rest overs, but now we can stay in anything from a Marriott to a Motel 6. Now I will say that a lot of the hotels do a nice job, but there are a few which are terrible. The Marriott in SFO across the pond from the airport is one of the ones I dread the most. The crew rooms are at least 350 steps away from the nearest elevator, the hallway lights are only half lit up. But you do get a nice view of the airport runways from your room.
The first thing I do is take the bedspread off and throw it on the sofa in the room, if I have one.
I think some of the crew rooms are vacuumed maybe weekly. The sheets most of the time get changed every night. But there have been occasions I have gotten into the bed and found a post it note down by my feet indicating that the last occupant was from X airlines two days earlier. Also while the guest rooms for full paying guests may be nice, the crew rooms usually have the ratty furniture (frayed fabrics, stained tables, etc.)
It used to be years ago we got to stay in the top hotels for our rest overs, but now we can stay in anything from a Marriott to a Motel 6. Now I will say that a lot of the hotels do a nice job, but there are a few which are terrible. The Marriott in SFO across the pond from the airport is one of the ones I dread the most. The crew rooms are at least 350 steps away from the nearest elevator, the hallway lights are only half lit up. But you do get a nice view of the airport runways from your room.
The first thing I do is take the bedspread off and throw it on the sofa in the room, if I have one.
