Im new, and how do I get my mom to stop using cold water?

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Hey everybody, i'm new here and my first question is how can I get my mom to stop washing all of our clothes in cold water? we have a Frigidaire Gallery front load washer and dryer from 2009 and no matter what I say or do, my mom insists on using cold water for everything, not enough soap and no bleach. I usually wash everything in hot or warm, but when my mom does laundry it is always in cold. all of our colored towels have started to smell bad(I wash the white ones in hot water) and now my clothes are starting to smell funny. HELP!!!!
 
There is a way

Do all your own laundry, and do all your family's laundry. Or, at least, do your own, and turn the water temperature dial back to cold when you are done with your laundry.

Good luck.

Lawrence/Maytagbear
 
I have some friends that are the same way,,,in a recent visit they requested to use the washer...demanding cold water to set on the machine because "we NEVER use anything but cold water.". I snuck and at least put the Whirlpool on the sensor cold setting, that way it was warmed up a little bit.

I remember seeing their washer...of course totally nasty with bad buildup. Ick
 
actually,

my mom doesnt care if I use warm but she thinks hot is a total waste of LOTS of hot water(we have a front loader) and it is going to wear the clothes out, and she thinks you should wash anything colored only in cold because the color will fade if you dont... But I dont have time to do all of our laundry myself! also, what is a good, but not terribly expensive laundry detergent(liquid or powder) that will work in our washer? we have FAB powder right now but it doesnt get anything clean. me and my mom are allergic to Tide.
 
wow i use alot of cold water except for whites and sheets but NOT everything thats a bit overkill! i had a friend whose mother did the same damn thing however she used powdered detergent along with clorox 2 for colors and regular clorox for whites and there towels smelled fresh i swear to everything i know i used to stay over so many times the washer never had a funk to it however, there fabric softener dispenser was a dark blue almost purple, undiluted fs in large doses.... hilarious! to me at least ohh so going back to what you should do well do your own laundry air out the machine run a maintenance cycle and good luck buddy!
 
I only use Tide Free, I'm allergic to any of the Tides with scent. I've tried other detergents but none do the job of Tide. Try the Free version. Picked up some Purex that was on sale and it was a total waste, everything came out with spots where they were when I tossed it in the machine and overall just plain dirty looking.
 
Tide Cold Water

My sister in law is a died in the wool "earth muffin" and washes everything in cold water. Her towels, T shirts and kitchen linens are a sickening gray with brown highlights. Tide Cold Water gets good marks for cleaning. Think of all the scrud that must be on the insides of that machine.
 
It's too bad you're allergic to Tide products, as liquid Tide 2X Coldwater HE is a great-cleaning detergent--even in cold water.

These two detergents are meant for HE washers (front-loaders), they cost only $.15 per load and they both scored a very respectable 63 in Consumer Reports magazine tests. They are "All 2X with Oxy Active HE" and "Gain Original Fresh HE". CR rates them as "best buys" because of their cleaning ability and low price. Both are liquids.

By comparison, the Fab detergent you're using costs $.14 per load, and scored a lowly 34. Your mom is using a poor-performing detergent in cold water. That's certainly a recipe for disappointing washing results. I think you'd find switching to a high-quality HE detergent is worth the extra penny per load.

Bad smells: Buy a small bottle of liquid chlorine bleach. Put two cups of it directly into the empty washer tub. Don't add detergent. Run the longest cycle and use hot water. That should help kill off mold/bacteria. In the future, wipe down the boot in front of the door, as well as the window of the door. Leave the door and the disperser drawer open a couple of inches to promote air-drying.

I've had front-loading washers since the mid 1980's and have never had a mold/bad smells issue. That may be because I use liquid chlorine bleach on loads of whites.

I washed everything in temp-controlled cold water (where the temperature is controlled by the washer so it doesn't go below about 70 degrees, at which point detergents lose much of their effectiveness) for a couple of years when Tide Coldwater first appeared on the market. The results were actually very good!

You might want to try a bottle of Tide 2X Coldwater HE, as it has a different formula than regular Tide, so maybe it won't trigger allergy issues. Best of all, it's made for cold water washing in a front-loader.

Use an HE detergent in your front-loader. They are designed to clean better than regular detergents in the lower water levels found these machines.

Good luck, and hope this information is of help to you.
 
Black slime. That is what cold water leaves behind. Surely, even the worst and most ignorant housekeepers, would realize that very potent "cooties" dwell in black slime! Or maybe a short course in micro-biology would be good! Always good to open the machine up and scoop some of the slime up on a stick. Show it to 'em. Ask 'em if they would like to lick it. Why not? Its' getting on the kitchen towels anyway.

It's no wonder towels and other garments begin to smell!
Some people believe every and anything the marketing people tell them.
Tide runs that ad about saving "hundreds" of dollars every year by using just cold. I wonder how many loads of wash you would have to do every week to get that much savings. Of course, Tide doesn't mention that. 50 or so, I would imagine, maybe more. Maybe there are more households out there with 20 or more people than I think!

My towels take a ride in the Unimatic with a hot wash AND a hot rinse. They are always clean and fresh!
I won't use the "trailer setting" (cold/cold) except on the most delicate of wool garments.

I think if you are trapped in a situation such as you are describing, you just have to be sneaky and do it yourself on hot or warm. Like someone else said----when you are through----set the switch back on Cold. Every now and then, when no one is home for a while, run it through a couple of the longest cycles. First with a good dose of detergent and ammonia in HOT water, then a warm wash with a good dose of chlorine bleach!
 
My Dad's the same way

My 81 year old Dad is the same way about using hot water. He washes everything in cold water. They have a Whirltag TL washer. I re-wash some of their clothes because they look so dirty and dingy espcially their dress clothes.

He heats water in the microwave to wash dishes so their gas hot water heater will not use the propane gas.

Must run in the family! My sister is the same way in doing laundry! YIKES! I must be adopted!?! I use hot, warm and sometimes cold!
 
COLD WATER WASHING IN F L WASHERS

One of the main advantages of a front loading washer is that they use very little hot water. This however does not mean you should use no hot water. On low water use washers I always use the hot setting when washing clothes, a cold rinse is fine to save hot water. Try this test, check the temperature of the wash water as it leaves the washer at the end of the wash cycle when using the hot setting. You will seldom even get a reading of 100F this is not too hot for any fabric, clothes get hotter than this when you wear them outside in the sun. You have to use almost twice as much detergent in cold water as compared to using hot water to get the same cleaning results. The average F L washer only uses 3-6 gallons of hot water for a full load. At a heating cost of 1 cent per gallon for a natural gas or maybe 2 cents for electric you can do the math but its probably cheaper to use hot water and the correct amount of detergent. This is to say nothing of glucking up the main seal and spider and causing total washer failure in many cases in less than 5 years.
 
Dustin

I am a Certified Hospital Laundry Manager. have been since 2 years before God.... Tell your mother CDC OSHA and most health depts. now tell us we must use at least 140 Degree water to wash in or no less than 120 with the use of Bleach.At our hospital we have done Many Many test on this very thing over the years and the findings some have been quite eyeopening.. Loads run @ 105 to 119 actually came out of the machines MORE bacteria laden than when they went in. Seems that is the idea temps for bacteria to grow.Also cold water loads came clean if bleach was used. But on the loads that bleach was not used the bacteria was less but far from being considered clean. also over loading any of the machines by as little as one lb increased the Bacteria count greatly. My Washers range from 18 lb to 150lb and there were not much difference in any of them when it came to cold or warm water washes.. The larger machine did remove more bacteria as one would expect but the loads were far from being considered "safe" 140 to 145 was the ideal temp for washing and rendered all the loads in a very very low bac. test.. Also the use of as little as 4 oz of bleach on the `150's renedered the loads fully sanitized.. and as little as 1 on on the smaller machines did likewise.
 
suggest a compromise

Perhaps use warm water for everything?

I understand where your mother's fear of faded colors comes from. Used to be that many darkly colored items were not "color fast" in the old days and the colors would run/fade and also discolor light fabric clothing.

When I went off to college in the mid-1970s, the washers in my dorm were commercial Maytag coin-operated machines with only two settings: Hot wash or Warm wash. There was no selector for rinse temp so I assume it was either warm or cold. There machines were clearly built before the 1970s energy crisis!!

There was often a wait of an hour or more on each machine, so basically you could run only one load at once (you never could use two machines at once unless it was late at night). That meant everything had to go into one load, and the coolest wash temp I could select was "Warm". I doubt if those machines had auto temp control, so back then "Warm" may have been hotter than today's "Warm". Often I would find whites such as socks, underwear, towels turned light pink or blue from something dark blue (jeans) or red in the load. Dyes back then were not colorfast and this was common to happen.

The following year, I moved to a smaller dorm that had a better student-to-washer ratio, so often one could use two machines at once, plus these machines were newer and offered cold wash (which I rarely used). Also, there was a selector switch for rinse temp and I generally used Cold for rinse. If I had NEW dark colored items, I'd wash in cold the first time, then wash in warm, sorting dark colors into a separate load. This ended the bleeding of colors issues.

Today, it's rare to find a colored item that bleeds, other than perhaps Madras plaid fabric from India. If you aren't sure, then wash once in cold water. After that, if the fabric is suspect, wash separately with dark colors only, but no reason not to use warm. For towels, it's silly to use anything cooler than Warm, and as sudsman suggested, Hot may be better in terms of killing bacteria.

Due to a medical problem, I am susceptible to fungal (ringworm) infections on my right leg, and was advised to use towels only ONCE and then to wash them on Hot. That way I don't reinfect my leg by using a towel more than once. This means a set of eight Costco bath towels are each washed on Hot once a week, and after two years (100 washes) they begin to look and feel a little worn and rough. So I have to replace bath towels every three years or so for a whopping $56. Big deal, at least it keeps the ringworm infections at bay.

I'd suggest you do at least your own laundry, including towels you use. You could use hot for towels, bed linen, socks, and underwear, and warm for everything else. Another reason your mother may be a cold water wash freak is that her old toploaders used roughly three times as much hot water per load when selecting "hot". So using cold water in the TL days really saved on energy costs. The savings for using cold in a front loader are diminished because you are already using a lot less water to begin with.

Adding to what others have said about detergents: you need to use an HE detergent. Regular detergent doesn't work well in a FL. Tide HE powder is affordable, about $12 for the 80 load box which lasts WAY longer than 80 loads in a FL. Use just 3 tablespoons (45 ml or a 1 1/2 coffee measure scoops) per full load in an FL of your family's size. Good luck!!
 
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Look around the door boot fold for anything that looks like black mold. Then google and print out the scariest article you can find on Stachybotrys, the toxic black mold, for your mother.

How far is your washer from the water heater? Unless it is very close, a front loader uses so little water that often even when set for hot wash, the water in the machine will not be hot. If you have a sink near the machine you can purge the hot lines of cold water. If you can't purge the line into a sink, fill the washer on the hot setting and then drain it and refill it with hot to have a hot wash.

There is another posting here about removing the odor from fabrics that should help you.
 
the washer is right next to the hot water heater, and the door seal is clean, we leave the door open and I use hot water and lots of bleach to clean it about once a month.
 
Quote. He heats water in the microwave to wash dishes so their gas hot water heater will not use the propane gas.

Propane is chepaer than electriicty to heat water, usually.

My aunt heats water on her GAS stovetop to save money by using the GAS hot-water heater less. Now I ask you, WTF is that?
All she is doing is generating unnecssary poisonous fumes in the house that are normally vented away by the hot-water heater.

In my opinion stop all fabric-softener usage. That alone makes your laundry MUCH cleaner. Cold water can't remove the wax that softeners leave behind. If you know how to properly dose the detergent you won't NEED softener.

I'd suggest you wash all of your own clothes then show her that your towel and sheets don't ever stink.

Tell mother that buying one less pair of shoes or one less blouse a month more than covers the cost of hot water.

What good are clothes and shoes (that are intended to make the female FEEL attractive) if you and your clothes stink of dirt?
That is jsut not attractive!

Hint: If you are drying a clean body with a stinky towel you just defeated the purpose of a shower, in that your person will again stink.
 

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