it's doing the same thing described earlier in this thread...agitates as soon as i start it up...but i do suspect it's the timer, it doesn't seem to be advancing to the next cycle..it only goes so far, then i need to move it to spin, rinse, etc. will have hubby read through this next week, when he goes on vacation. again...thank you all for the help, i love my old maytag, and would rather not replace it.