IWL12 Videos for FunGuy

[DADoES]

Allrighty, dude. These are raw video clips out of my still camera, rather large files for the time they run. Limited-time availability.

EcoActive Wash with 3 oz. of Foca (15 sec clip, 5 MB)

Active+ Wash Profile, Medium Water Level, 5 oz. Foca, 3 oz. oxybooster (15 sec clip, 5 MB, higher video/sound quality)
Active+ Wash Profile, Medium Water Level, 5 oz. Foca, 3 oz. oxybooster (1 min 30 sec clip, 8 MB, lower video/sound quality)
Active+ wash is the 2nd most aggressive action, next below Maximum wash (I think). Three large bath towels in this load, some other towels and cloths, a LOT of socks.

 

[funguy10]

Well if this thread's out to me it would be right for me to be the first to respond right? So I am responding first with my usual batch of curious questions. First of all, how aggressive is the Max Wash option? I can tell the cycle being videoed here was the Active Wash cycle. Am I right? The machine sounds similar to the Kenmore Oasis Agitator version. How similar is the wash action to the Agitator Oasis.

 

[laundryshark]

Wow! More Fisher and Paykel Demos!

Hey! Many thanks for posting these clips. I managed to grab my copies without a hitch.--With Best Regards, Laundry Shark

 

[appnut]

The machine sounds similar to the Kenmore Oasis Agitator version. How similar is the wash action to the Agitator Oasis.

That's because F&P and Whirlpool had a technology sharing agreement. So there are very similar key components found in Cabrio/Oasis washers that originally were found in F&P washers.

 

[pulsator]

Quick question Glen, with the older F&P washers before they introduced the locking lid, how did they stop the tub so fast when the lid was raised? Is there a tub brake in that machine or is it simply the motor stopping it?

-Jamie

 

[DADoES]

<blockquote>First of all, how aggressive is the Max Wash option?</blockquote>A tiny bit more aggressive than Active+, by way of a longer wash time and/or a different rhythm, which changes slightly depending on size of load and water level.

<blockquote>I can tell the cycle being videoed here was the Active Wash cycle. Am I right?</blockquote>There is no "Active Wash" cycle that can be selected by name via control panel options. It is the Active+ wash profile, selected by the machine itself in response to how the load "feels" in combination with its choice of medium water level and my selection of medium-high soil level. High soil level probably would have been maximum wash profile. I've rarely seen the machine choose maximum profile ... although there is a specific option to select it manually.

<blockquote>The machine sounds similar to the Kenmore Oasis Agitator version. How similar is the wash action to the Agitator Oasis.</blockquote>As Bob says, the Oasis/Cabrio/Bravos (and now of course, AquaSmart), and F&P agitator toploaders, all use F&P's SmartDrive motor ... so certainly they will sound similar. If your last statement is intended as a question ... I don't know ... I've never seen an agitator Oasis run. Your machine (of which we are still waiting for videos) is an agitator Oasis, yes?

 

[DADoES]

Jamie, there is no mechanical brake. It's done electrically by way of controlling power/voltage on the SmartDrive motor.

 

[funguy10]

Your machine (of which we are still waiting for videos) is a

Yes. It is.

 

[laundryshark]

Subtle Audio Differences in Agitators

Unless the latest Fisher and Paykel models have a quieter SmartDrive system, their agitations seem to be more pronounced and of a distinctive groaning noise than the Kenmore and Whirlpool brands that I have heard on YouTube. Even the faster or agressive agitation speeds of WP and KM models to me sound quieter than the F&P's. Again, the playing field could be more of a level affair if newer F&P's have an improved, quieter motor system.--Laundry Shark

 

[laundryshark]

Roper Version?

By the way, is their by chance a Roper version of these HE toploaders or not? And if so, what is the Roper version called??--Laundry Shark

 

[andrewinorlando]

Glenn - how is the machine as far as gentleness to the clothes? Do you notice any pulls on towels and the like from the aggressive wash action?

 

[DADoES]

Sharkey, my GWL08 isn't as prominently "grindy"-sounding. I have a couple videos of the 10-pairs-of-jeans load in it, but the files are 75MB / 14 mins and 35 MB / shorter. Just a guess ... there may not be an HE wash plate offering under Roper being that it's a "budget" brand, but maybe all the standard-fill TLs will be gone at some point in the future. Or the direct-drive tranny design for standard TLs could conceivably be changed to the tranny-less SmartDrive mechanism.

Andrew, I've never noticed any damage to any clothing that could be attributed to the machine. I can think of one hand towel that has a ripped edge-seam, but that appears to be a quality flaw. I believe when I noticed the problem it had last been washed in the Calypso. Note that the aggressive agitation the video shows isn't necessarily the usual choice it makes. Rupert chewed a hole in a pair of jeans some years ago, and while the hole is frayed around the edges, it hasn't otherwise ripped or torn. Jeans typically trigger a strong wash action and longer time, to the point that I occasionally drop the soil level to normal/light.