william637 I was being a bit facetious with my "cooling" comment. I too purge the water line before running the DW so I get the hottest water possible. I just struck me odd talking about 105 degree water, I could not function with water that cold.
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I realize that dishwasher detergents, like laundry detergents, are being reformulated to work better at lower temperatures, but I'd certainly be pressing the SANI RINSE option for every cycle on the new KA.
The light wash cycle on my LG uses 105-110 degree water, but I never choose that cycle. It doesn't incorporate the sensor, so I find light loads are washed just as quickly (and with less water using the sensor-driven normal cycle) which also heats the wash water to 140. The sensor on my machine opts for fewer fills quite often.
The light wash cycle on my LG uses 105-110 degree water, but I never choose that cycle. It doesn't incorporate the sensor, so I find light loads are washed just as quickly (and with less water using the sensor-driven normal cycle) which also heats the wash water to 140. The sensor on my machine opts for fewer fills quite often.
58limited
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I've been reading this thread with interest. My KitchenAid, model KUDL02IRWHO, purchased in Feb. 2005, has never given my any problems. I'm quite happy with this dishwasher and hope it lasts for another 7 years but I appreciate the critiques given in this thread of the other brands in case I end up needing a new one in the near future. My KA is a mid-line model and does not have the scrub jets but usually cleans even burned on cheese off of my Corningware. Rarely do I have to hand scrub or rewash something. I use either Cascade or store brand detergent from HEB.
The owner's manual recommends using 120 degree water and the sanitizer cycle, which I always use, heats the water to 155.
Good luck with your new KA, Petek. I can't wait to hear a report on how it handles really dirty dishes.
The owner's manual recommends using 120 degree water and the sanitizer cycle, which I always use, heats the water to 155.
Good luck with your new KA, Petek. I can't wait to hear a report on how it handles really dirty dishes.
Re the KitchenAid model #'s. I' guessing that the KUDS prefixes still incorporate the traditional 4 arm sprayer, from what I've seen the KUDE's like mine are the newer S arm filter machines so what are the KUDL's etc.. anyone know?
58limited
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My KUDLxxxx has the four arm sprayer and the food grinder. Here's a picture:
That looks pretty much the same as the one I just replaced KUDS01IL with the 4 arm sprayer.
norgeway
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Two Hours and Ten minutes!!
I would DIE!!! Im getting ready to instal a KDS15 that was built in Dec 65...3 months after I came along, and even on Sani Cycle, it dosent run quite an hour!!How on earth do they claim that is Energy Star???? 8 to 10 gallons of water is bound to be cheaper than over an hour of electricity.
I would DIE!!! Im getting ready to instal a KDS15 that was built in Dec 65...3 months after I came along, and even on Sani Cycle, it dosent run quite an hour!!How on earth do they claim that is Energy Star???? 8 to 10 gallons of water is bound to be cheaper than over an hour of electricity.
58limited
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I've never actually timed mine, but it goes well over an hour - I use sani-wash and sani-rinse.
My KUDLxxxx has the four arm sprayer and the food grinder
This is the machine I was referring to (or similar Whilrpool model). I would like to compare the performance of this machine to the new one in the original thread.
This is the machine I was referring to (or similar Whilrpool model). I would like to compare the performance of this machine to the new one in the original thread.
mrb627
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Detergent and Time
Seems the same with washing machines and dishwashers. The high temp options are being reduced while the detergents seem to get more concentrated and more notably, more expensive. So, anything you are saving by washing in a lower temperature, you are forking over for more expensive detergents.
Just saying....
Malcolm
Seems the same with washing machines and dishwashers. The high temp options are being reduced while the detergents seem to get more concentrated and more notably, more expensive. So, anything you are saving by washing in a lower temperature, you are forking over for more expensive detergents.
Just saying....
Malcolm
pierreandreply4
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or another option is to raise the water heater temp for when using the dishwasher me what i use my kenmore dishwasher to wash dishes i use the smart wash cycle turbo zone option and i have the hi temp option active and if i need i activate the sani rinse option but its rare that i use the sani rinse option
I've barely had any time to play with my dishwasher since I've been mom-sitting at her house this past week or so. (She has altzheimers and we're preparing to get her moved out)
I did a "light/china" cycle the other day with a fairly full load but didn't get to stay until the end.
Tonight I did another "One hour" cycle paying a little more attention although I probably should have wrote it down.
During the first 4 minutes the machine did about 6 minor fills (4-5 sec) each followed immediately by a minor (4-5 sec) drain. At the 5 minute mark it drained completely it sounded like and refilled and repeated the above for about another approx 15 minutes. All in all there must have been a good 12-14 minor fills and drains. Odd.. I wonder what the purpose of that is
Then it drained and filled for the first wash which only lasted 20 minutes before it drained.
It refilled and did two final rinses as far as I could figure before it shut down on the 60 min mark.
It spends a helluva lot more time pre rinsing and final rinsing that it does actually washing.
Another thing is it sounds like it speeds up and slows down at points throughout all the cycles..
Anyways, happy with the results of the one hour wash, just cracked the door open a little and they're dry in about 25 minutes.
I did a "light/china" cycle the other day with a fairly full load but didn't get to stay until the end.
Tonight I did another "One hour" cycle paying a little more attention although I probably should have wrote it down.
During the first 4 minutes the machine did about 6 minor fills (4-5 sec) each followed immediately by a minor (4-5 sec) drain. At the 5 minute mark it drained completely it sounded like and refilled and repeated the above for about another approx 15 minutes. All in all there must have been a good 12-14 minor fills and drains. Odd.. I wonder what the purpose of that is
Then it drained and filled for the first wash which only lasted 20 minutes before it drained.
It refilled and did two final rinses as far as I could figure before it shut down on the 60 min mark.
It spends a helluva lot more time pre rinsing and final rinsing that it does actually washing.
Another thing is it sounds like it speeds up and slows down at points throughout all the cycles..
Anyways, happy with the results of the one hour wash, just cracked the door open a little and they're dry in about 25 minutes.
jerrod6
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So many fills, so many drains before it really gets to doing anything. I would also like to know the purpose of this fill/drain routine...sounds a bit annoying.
jerrod6
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So many fills, so many drains before it really gets to doing anything. I would also like to know the purpose of this fill/drain routine...sounds a bit annoying.
perhaps
Perhaps it is tempering the water? Since it is only a 1 hour wash, does it want to have only the hottest water available for best results? I know nothing about this but the idea just popped in my head so I am throwing it out. haha!
Perhaps it is tempering the water? Since it is only a 1 hour wash, does it want to have only the hottest water available for best results? I know nothing about this but the idea just popped in my head so I am throwing it out. haha!
jerrod6
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Joe...Well that's a thought. However in the cycles that my parents 1971 KA wanted hot water for the first fill, it just let the water run in and pumped it out for about 45 seconds as soon as you started it. It was a continuous process,water coming in, running out. After 45 seconds the drain valve closed and then in about 20 seconds the Dw would begin spraying the dishes. I think I read that this draining has something to do with determining the soil level, but I don't understand why this would be happening in units with a turbidity sensor.
OMG
Love that quote!
"What are the engineers thinking? You might as well pee on your dishes - it's going to be about the same temp and you may even get a better flow. 105 degree water isn't going to acheive any hygienic standard, I don't care how long you leave them in there. I hand wash in water hotter than that."
HOW TRUE!
Love my 10 year old KA with garberator!!
Love that quote!
"What are the engineers thinking? You might as well pee on your dishes - it's going to be about the same temp and you may even get a better flow. 105 degree water isn't going to acheive any hygienic standard, I don't care how long you leave them in there. I hand wash in water hotter than that."
HOW TRUE!
Love my 10 year old KA with garberator!!
has hydrosweep cleaning
my hot water is around 145-155.
The only thing I've ever had to do with this machine is every year or two the pump cover bolts work themselves loose under the spray arm and water shoots out under the door all over the floor. Just a quick tweak and she is good for another year or so.
my hot water is around 145-155.
The only thing I've ever had to do with this machine is every year or two the pump cover bolts work themselves loose under the spray arm and water shoots out under the door all over the floor. Just a quick tweak and she is good for another year or so.
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