toploader55
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The New Valve should arrive on Monday. I just thought I would share the removal of the old one incase anyone is interested
KD2-P Drain Valve
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toploader55
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The "Port" where the new one will go
Needs a little clean up
Needs a little clean up
toploader55
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Now the tough part
Removing the drain resevoir from the cast iron
Removing the drain resevoir from the cast iron
toploader55
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A shot of the old drain plunger
Does it look tired ?
Does it look tired ?
stevet
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Just like an old man!
Yep! Tired and leaky! (not to mention the rusty pipes!)
Yep! Tired and leaky! (not to mention the rusty pipes!)
toploader55
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Wow a little corrosion
Check out the old one with the "Bellows" inside
Check out the old one with the "Bellows" inside
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Another Shot
I think it's seen its days
I think it's seen its days
toploader55
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Last two posts of course the New Valve
Note the length of the pieces. Do you think a little corroded off ?
Note the length of the pieces. Do you think a little corroded off ?
toploader55
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I think...
A little clean up is in order. For those of you that have this style pump drain system on the Old KitchenAids, The black drain resevoir (Bakelite) is sort of a friction fit. Stevet who has been extremely helpful in guidance and knowledge said that WD40 wouldn't hurt the plastic, however I used PB Blaster on the cast iron between the valve and the sump. Reading the can of PB Blaster stated loud and clear it may have adverse effects on different types of plastic. So beware !!!! if you ever get involved in one of these projects.
A little clean up is in order. For those of you that have this style pump drain system on the Old KitchenAids, The black drain resevoir (Bakelite) is sort of a friction fit. Stevet who has been extremely helpful in guidance and knowledge said that WD40 wouldn't hurt the plastic, however I used PB Blaster on the cast iron between the valve and the sump. Reading the can of PB Blaster stated loud and clear it may have adverse effects on different types of plastic. So beware !!!! if you ever get involved in one of these projects.
stevet
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A nice little project going there!
Hey, Ed,
Looks like there are some pieces of the old drain valve still stuck in the water tank neck. If you can't get them out, take a hacksaw blade and saw thru the metal in a few spots and it should just fall right out for you. I bet the machine sat for months with water sitting in the tank that was not pumped out by the water pump and that is what rusted the neck of the valve.
The new one should do the job nicely once you install it and leaks should be nonexistent from here on in.
If you are going to store it in a cold environment or for an extended period of time, make sure you drain the tank by removing the drain pump outlet hose and drain all the water from the tank and pump.
Hey, Ed,
Looks like there are some pieces of the old drain valve still stuck in the water tank neck. If you can't get them out, take a hacksaw blade and saw thru the metal in a few spots and it should just fall right out for you. I bet the machine sat for months with water sitting in the tank that was not pumped out by the water pump and that is what rusted the neck of the valve.
The new one should do the job nicely once you install it and leaks should be nonexistent from here on in.
If you are going to store it in a cold environment or for an extended period of time, make sure you drain the tank by removing the drain pump outlet hose and drain all the water from the tank and pump.
sudsmaster
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Very nice.
Where did you find the new drain valve?
Where did you find the new drain valve?
toploader55
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New Drain Valve Found...
Hi Suds.
New drain valve found with the help of stevet.A Hobart Tech. There were 2 left in the world. I have one, you should get the other. Just getting ready to finish the repair and water test. I'll post only the successful results. Here are a few shots of the cleaned up and restord parts.
This pic is the Trap with all the corroded cast iron still intact.
Hi Suds.
New drain valve found with the help of stevet.A Hobart Tech. There were 2 left in the world. I have one, you should get the other. Just getting ready to finish the repair and water test. I'll post only the successful results. Here are a few shots of the cleaned up and restord parts.
This pic is the Trap with all the corroded cast iron still intact.
toploader55
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This is the Cleaned up Trap
Looks a little different
Looks a little different
toploader55
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YAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NO LEAKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just fired her up and "Look Ma, No Leaks".
Fill....
NO LEAKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just fired her up and "Look Ma, No Leaks".
Fill....
toploader55
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Main Wash
Everything nice and dry
Everything nice and dry
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Main Wash
Just love the dial and those Rotation Arrows !!!
Just love the dial and those Rotation Arrows !!!
toploader55
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There is so much Pressure in that machine
Look at the Silverware Basket. Should be at the back of the machine. And there was little "Spritzes" of water coming out the Lid Vent. That's Insane. First Wash Wednesday Night.
Look at the Silverware Basket. Should be at the back of the machine. And there was little "Spritzes" of water coming out the Lid Vent. That's Insane. First Wash Wednesday Night.
sudsmaster
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You know it's working right when it spurts...
Yep, nothing like a KD-2P in full flush. I particularly like the deep drumming sound the water spray makes if you omit the upper rack with an empty washer. These machines are very entertaining.
Looks like you've done a very nice job resurrecting the 2P.
Yep, nothing like a KD-2P in full flush. I particularly like the deep drumming sound the water spray makes if you omit the upper rack with an empty washer. These machines are very entertaining.
Looks like you've done a very nice job resurrecting the 2P.
Fabulous Eddie, isn't that a nice feeling when you get the machine to work like its new again! Congratulations, I know you are going to particularly enjoy using this machine because of all the hard work and time you put into restoring it.
toploader55
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Thank-you Robert
And everyone at automaticwasher.org. To think only a few months ago, all I thought about was the memories as a child seeing and hearing all these Fabulous Machines from years ago. I never, never, never thought that I would ever see these machines again. Now I have 3 Vintage Machines that run perfectly and I owe it all to you wonderful people in the Club. What a Great Thing we all have here. People sharing knowledge, parts and most of all a Warm, Solid , Trusting Friendship.
I think the world should take a page out of this book.
With Much Thanks, Eddie
And everyone at automaticwasher.org. To think only a few months ago, all I thought about was the memories as a child seeing and hearing all these Fabulous Machines from years ago. I never, never, never thought that I would ever see these machines again. Now I have 3 Vintage Machines that run perfectly and I owe it all to you wonderful people in the Club. What a Great Thing we all have here. People sharing knowledge, parts and most of all a Warm, Solid , Trusting Friendship.
I think the world should take a page out of this book.
With Much Thanks, Eddie
toploader55
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The Finished Product.
I never could have done this with out the help and support of you all.
I never could have done this with out the help and support of you all.
toploader55
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She looks so Butch
Only a few more and I'll go away
Only a few more and I'll go away
toploader55
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Maybe we should
Have a Show at the Javits Center in New York City
Have a Show at the Javits Center in New York City
toploader55
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Now what am I going to do ???
I'm sure I'll start looking for a New Project
I'm sure I'll start looking for a New Project
sudsmaster
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Just be careful with light plastic items in that washer.
I put a vinyl storage bowl cover in the lower rack. The spray got it airborne and it got wedged between the hot air inlet and the cutlery bin. It partially melted, to the extent where it was no longer useful as a cover.
I put a vinyl storage bowl cover in the lower rack. The spray got it airborne and it got wedged between the hot air inlet and the cutlery bin. It partially melted, to the extent where it was no longer useful as a cover.
Wow nice job! I love the look of the new next to the vintage. It still holds its own on design and style. Just love it. Very interesting pic of the cover open. You basically have 3 layers of racks. I am sure with all that power everything comes out clean and spotless. I am amazed at the load capacity that must have. Those before and after pics of the traps etc are incredible. Just like new again. I am sure everytime it runs it will be saying thank you for saving me.
Jon
Jon
sudsmaster
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Actually there are two layers of racks in the KD-2P.
The upper rack is in three pieces: two side sections and a larger center section. What you are seeing is the center section turned 180 degrees and put up and back on the upper edge of the tub, so that the lower rack can be accessed.
My experience with the KD-2P is that it washes well enough for standard dishes and such. The wash cycle is rather short - only about five minutes. The whole pre-purge/wash/rinse/rinse cycle takes about 21 minutes, as I recall. Then another 20 minutes or so for forced air drying. Loading is important as one must not block the spray to the upper rack, for best results.
The upper rack is in three pieces: two side sections and a larger center section. What you are seeing is the center section turned 180 degrees and put up and back on the upper edge of the tub, so that the lower rack can be accessed.
My experience with the KD-2P is that it washes well enough for standard dishes and such. The wash cycle is rather short - only about five minutes. The whole pre-purge/wash/rinse/rinse cycle takes about 21 minutes, as I recall. Then another 20 minutes or so for forced air drying. Loading is important as one must not block the spray to the upper rack, for best results.
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