Kitchenaid KUDS230B- Totally screwed

[joe233]

The Kenmore 13742 has 4 stars

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The Kenmore 13112 has 3 stars and some 1 star reviews

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Any feedback on this?

 

[appnut]

Joe, all I can tell you is my experience. I am know for being pretty brutal for dishwasher loading on this site. I eat oatmeal for breakfast. Bowls sit for up to 7 days before they are washed. I use Cascade Complete and Smart Wash cycle. No trace of the foot. Same with pots used to bil rice and I've been known to have the rice cook partially dry with about 1/2 an inch of rice left on the bottom of the pan. I don't touch the pan. It gets dumped in the dishwasher. Again, clean pot at the end of the cycle. Throw a baked pasta cassarole dish in there untouched, CLEAN. My dishwasher is essentially the same one as what I suggested, mine just has a heavier sound insulation pad and a different control panel. I've been amazed because earlier versions of the whirlpol Tall Tub produced dishwashers were far finnikier in loading needs. I've only had one cereal bowl not come out clean recently and it's because I put it in the top rack and had another bowl too close to it. I usually put the bowls in the bottom rack. I essentially have abused this dishwasher by some people's standards. I couldn't live with a dishwasher (European) where you had a filter to clean because my excess food soil would be trapped in there every load. I don't believe in rinsing and I barely scrape at best. This is how I've washed dishes since 1984 when dishwasher really got on the ball!!

 

[appnut]

With the SS tub, I don't worry about it being stained from tomato suace-based dishes (chili, italian foods, heavy cheese). Plastic tubs stain with these types of food soils and I don't have to worry.

 

[joe233]

The Kenmore 13742 has Sani-Rinse and
it seems the Kenmore 13112 does not.

I am guessing the Kenmore 13742 has a few more
features that are offset by not having the stainless
steel tub.

Is this correct?

 

[appnut]

I'm looking at the 13112's specs chart and there is the NSF Certified Sanitary Rinse.

 

[joe233]

The 13112 has a filtration system.
What's that like?

 

[joe233]

I guess they both have the filtration system.
I'm learning that you can't go by the title you
have to read the specs

You're starting to convince me that the 13112 is
the way to go.

The 13742 has an eletromechanical timer and the
13112 has an electronic timer. Any preference
here?

 

[appnut]

Joe, the filtration system is the same one on my machine. If you look closely at the pictures of the two models, the control panels are essentially the same. They're both electronic.

 

[appnut]

I'd hate to see you give up your KitchenAid. I hoe someone here will answer the questions you have about the repair process, but none of the experts have chimed back in here.

 

[jeffg]

We opted for the Kenmore #17702 several months ago and have been completely happy with it. No problems with undried dishes, or tub staining.

One misconception is that dishes retain heat longer in a SS tub. The opposite is true: the better conductor of heat a tub material is, the faster dishes inside the tub will lose heat.

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[joe233]

I saw this on one review.
Is there anything to this?

Overall Rating: 1 out of 5 1 5
Kenmore Dishwashers, November 5, 2008
By MNSteve from Minneapolis, MN

"I do not recommend buying Kenmore dishwashers. After only a couple of years, the buttons on the front panel tear off due to the heat. You cannot replace the push buttons panel without paying for the whole control panel. Even though the inside lasts and the cleaning is okay, the outside durability is not good. Warranty does you no good."

 

[jeffg]

I don't know what this reviewer means by buttons "tearing off". It would help to know what model he's referring to.

 

[joe233]

OK, then I won't worry about it. You can't believe
all the reviews. I have found that any item will
have some one star reviews. There are defective units
from every model and brand and they tend to post
to the reviews. I believe the people who say a
dishwasher doesn't clean may not be using the correct soap,etc.

Thanks

 

[joe233]

I'm torn between the two of these. I wonder if the one that is
43 dollars cheaper is better? Can they put a stainless steel
tub into the 13112 for 43 bucks without skimping on something
else?

13742

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13112

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[joe233]

We bought the Kenmore 13112.

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We finally made a decision. We opted not to buy the
5 year extended warranty which is $180.

P.S.- I thought I better post to this thread also
to let appnut know.

Now I'm out of here for awhile