stevet
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Here is one in Jacksonville that someone might get for a song and a dance! All three for $125.00!
Dishwasher may be worth it for that price!
Dishwasher may be worth it for that price!
Kitchenaid Superba on Craig's List
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stevet
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Sorry, I snagged it mysel!
I just could not resist it!
This will be the first machine I have ever paid for! Got him down to 25 bucks and I will pick it up. Says it is in good condition..as long as the control panel looks good I could really care less how the rest of it is! Got enough donor machines anyway!
It happens to be a KDM-21 Monterrey model same as the Superba!
I just could not resist it!
This will be the first machine I have ever paid for! Got him down to 25 bucks and I will pick it up. Says it is in good condition..as long as the control panel looks good I could really care less how the rest of it is! Got enough donor machines anyway!
It happens to be a KDM-21 Monterrey model same as the Superba!
toploader55
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Hey Steve
Nice find. I'm going to run the KD2-P tonight. Got to get alot of use out of that drain valve before it rusts. Thanks again. Keep your eye out for a "Electra" or something good for YouCrate. LOL Eddie.
Nice find. I'm going to run the KD2-P tonight. Got to get alot of use out of that drain valve before it rusts. Thanks again. Keep your eye out for a "Electra" or something good for YouCrate. LOL Eddie.
stevet
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As the HydroSweep turns!
Ed, you know full well that the drain valve will probably outlast you and I on your KDP-2. As always, use them all in good health. I have to get up there to sample some of the huge meals you seem to be cooking all the time to get your machines loaded up so much.
Mark, I am hoping to use the complete machine as is. If it turns out to be in great condition, I will probably just swap it with the KDS20 I have now. Like I said, if the control panel is good, I may just pull the door and motor and all the wiring and throw it on to the 20 tank like I have been doing all these years. We have ceramic tile from the kitchen to the garage and I hate to scrape it anywhere it may have to go. I usually place cardboard under the machine and slide it out but those older units like the 20 weigh well in excess of 125 lbs so they dont slide easily.
I will let you all know what the story is when I get back from AZ next week and pick it up on my way home form the Jacksonville airport.
Meanwhile how are you doing with your parting out sales?
Ed, you know full well that the drain valve will probably outlast you and I on your KDP-2. As always, use them all in good health. I have to get up there to sample some of the huge meals you seem to be cooking all the time to get your machines loaded up so much.
Mark, I am hoping to use the complete machine as is. If it turns out to be in great condition, I will probably just swap it with the KDS20 I have now. Like I said, if the control panel is good, I may just pull the door and motor and all the wiring and throw it on to the 20 tank like I have been doing all these years. We have ceramic tile from the kitchen to the garage and I hate to scrape it anywhere it may have to go. I usually place cardboard under the machine and slide it out but those older units like the 20 weigh well in excess of 125 lbs so they dont slide easily.
I will let you all know what the story is when I get back from AZ next week and pick it up on my way home form the Jacksonville airport.
Meanwhile how are you doing with your parting out sales?
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I want it, I want it!! If it works, I want it!!! It's a perfect 21! And it would look sooooo nice in my new kitchen!!
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Great Deal!! 3 for $125. Wow!
stevet
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Piece by piece
I contacted the seller and made an offer on only the dishwasher and he took it so I am taking the machine. I have no current need for a new wall oven though I will check it out if I have a chance and I don't need the range top as I have a Downdraft unit now and it is white!
Andrew, that Monterrey would look great in the new kitchen! The understated elegance of the black control panel would look great with your black panels too! Your Selectra is slick but the 21 has that classic look to it. We will see when I get it home what the story is! 'Til then, we both have to sit on pins and needles!
I contacted the seller and made an offer on only the dishwasher and he took it so I am taking the machine. I have no current need for a new wall oven though I will check it out if I have a chance and I don't need the range top as I have a Downdraft unit now and it is white!
Andrew, that Monterrey would look great in the new kitchen! The understated elegance of the black control panel would look great with your black panels too! Your Selectra is slick but the 21 has that classic look to it. We will see when I get it home what the story is! 'Til then, we both have to sit on pins and needles!
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Steve - The Monterrey was a Superba, right? Do you know what the cycle sequence was? Mostly, how long was the main wash on it? Inquiring minds want to know! And did it have 2 rinses? Yes, it would look fabulous in my new kitchen!! It does have that classic KA style, with a more contemporary flair.
stevet
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Cycles and Cycles!
Andrew, the Monterrey and Superba were the same machines with slightly different styling to them.
The cycle chart looks like this for Normal Full cycle:
Prewash w heat(delayed to 140 Deg. and det 7 minutes
Drain
Purge fill
Drain
Fill for rinse 3 minutes
Drain
Fill 2nd wash w heat/ det 6 minutes
Drain
Purge Fill
Drain
Fill for rinse looks like 6-7 minute
then drain, dwell, drain and dry
Now the service manual states after rinses not a single rinse so I would hope it would somehow manage to get a second rinse in there. The user manual states the same thing about multiple after rinses!
But it could be one. Someone who has a 21 Superba will need to verify it for me. I dont recall if my aunt with the Monterrey or my Uncle with the Superba had multiple rinses.
I am sure someone will tell us!
Andrew, the Monterrey and Superba were the same machines with slightly different styling to them.
The cycle chart looks like this for Normal Full cycle:
Prewash w heat(delayed to 140 Deg. and det 7 minutes
Drain
Purge fill
Drain
Fill for rinse 3 minutes
Drain
Fill 2nd wash w heat/ det 6 minutes
Drain
Purge Fill
Drain
Fill for rinse looks like 6-7 minute
then drain, dwell, drain and dry
Now the service manual states after rinses not a single rinse so I would hope it would somehow manage to get a second rinse in there. The user manual states the same thing about multiple after rinses!
But it could be one. Someone who has a 21 Superba will need to verify it for me. I dont recall if my aunt with the Monterrey or my Uncle with the Superba had multiple rinses.
I am sure someone will tell us!
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Steve - that's very similar to the 22 Superba, or the same, really. Does Soak and Scrub just add the heated pre-wash cycle? I think that washes for 6 minutes also.
I'm finding that I'm getting very good results with the 22 using Finish/Electrasol powder, rather than an enzyme detergent. Even pots and pans are substantially cleaner, which is what I expected from this machine. I guess the cycle times really are too short for an enzyme detergent to work effectively?
I'm finding that I'm getting very good results with the 22 using Finish/Electrasol powder, rather than an enzyme detergent. Even pots and pans are substantially cleaner, which is what I expected from this machine. I guess the cycle times really are too short for an enzyme detergent to work effectively?
stevet
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Well, it is in the garage !
I got the machine last week on my way back from the Jax Airport and it is actually in decent shape but needs a good deliming and cleaning. I found the jet dry dispenser cap molded to the sump in a lime deposit so the door is stained under the disopenser and the dispenser is probably trash. I will look it over and run it this weekend and update you all on it.
I will post these pics as the befores and hopefully the afters will be alot better!
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I got the machine last week on my way back from the Jax Airport and it is actually in decent shape but needs a good deliming and cleaning. I found the jet dry dispenser cap molded to the sump in a lime deposit so the door is stained under the disopenser and the dispenser is probably trash. I will look it over and run it this weekend and update you all on it.
I will post these pics as the befores and hopefully the afters will be alot better!
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stevet
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front of unit
looks worse than it is.
looks worse than it is.
stevet
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how stupid could the operator be to not have looked for the cap to the dispenser?
how stupid could the operator be to not have looked for the cap to the dispenser?
stevet
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money shot?
even the racks are dirty but absolutely pristine..no rust, chips or broken tines. Just a small section of the China guard is missing but I have lots of extras! LOL
Check out the lime on the element and fine filter!
even the racks are dirty but absolutely pristine..no rust, chips or broken tines. Just a small section of the China guard is missing but I have lots of extras! LOL
Check out the lime on the element and fine filter!
stevet
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Miracles maybe?
Think I can get it to shine again?
Think I can get it to shine again?
stevet
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last one!
Yuck!
Yuck!
That's probably the worst I've ever seen - and I thought we had hard water here. It looks like sand and pebbles from the tap there!
The racks have been petrified by a protective layer of scale (rock) so it will be interesting to see what can be done with them. That dishwasher cleaner works miracles though, it can be done. The tank however... Perhaps you should just chisel an epitaph in the bottom and let it go to appliance heaven.
The racks have been petrified by a protective layer of scale (rock) so it will be interesting to see what can be done with them. That dishwasher cleaner works miracles though, it can be done. The tank however... Perhaps you should just chisel an epitaph in the bottom and let it go to appliance heaven.
WOW!!!
I wonder if dumping a bunch of vinegar in there would get most of that out. I know I bought a bakelite agitator on ebay a while back that was completely white because it was caked with lime deposits. I soaked it over night for a couple of nights in vinegar. It eventually turned that lime into a paste and it wiped right off.
I know you can clean this machine up and it'll look good as new again. It looks really nice.
Jon
I wonder if dumping a bunch of vinegar in there would get most of that out. I know I bought a bakelite agitator on ebay a while back that was completely white because it was caked with lime deposits. I soaked it over night for a couple of nights in vinegar. It eventually turned that lime into a paste and it wiped right off.
I know you can clean this machine up and it'll look good as new again. It looks really nice.
Jon
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