Late Hanukkah present, Speed Queen Solid Tub

[akronman]

I pick it up tomorrow! The seller says it works, the mismatched dryer died and she convinced her husband to buy a matched set.
It looks relatively BOL, the color doesn't concern me at all, 2 cycles and one temp knob.

 

[akronman]

controls

2 cycles on the timer, maybe the KNITS is slow speed, or maybe it's just shorter time? Water level is chosen at the start of the cycle. I believe SQ switched from TIMED fill to METERED late in the solid tub run? That's about all I know, except I can't wait to get it.

 

[akronman]

and

the money shot------NO PERF HOLES IN THAT TUB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'll be searching the Searchilator later, but throw me any info you guys got-----age? Era? likely one speed? Lint filtering or no? Maybe a 9 or 10# model? So far my searching hasn't shown a model with anything like this console.
When a machine is around 35 years old and scarce, beggars can't be choosers, so BOL it is!

 

[yogitunes]

well, lets see......

the tub ring suggest its a reversing motor unit......

definately porcelain solid tub with overflo rinsing.....

most likely 1 speed....the DurablePress should add one more minute of continuous water to the first spin, otherwise it is a short cycle....

and of course timed fill.....airated at that....should prove to be a heavy duty unit, almost similar to a commercial unit used in laundromats......yet only one speed, but it does have variable water levels for the wash only....

SQ seemed to offer several models with time fill or pressure fill at the same time...

your not washing a half load with that lid open....trust me!.....but usually best to wash full loads anyway.....

waiting to hear your opinion of it after a few loads....

 

[jetcone]

NICE

Can't wait to see the vids!

 

[Unimatic1140]

Mark that is a beautiful find.

I would guess early-ish 70s. It's certainly not the late 70's as far as I can tell. The control panel still has some of their 60's style left in it for sure.

The tub looks mint! Maybe this was a low use machine.

These Speed Queen solid-tub machines are great performers in so many ways, one of the best deep rinses you'll ever see!

 

[mrb627]

Chrome Agitator Crown

I think I have a new chrome agitator cap in my stash. Let me know if you might want it.

Malcolm

Love a solid tub machine!

 

[akronman]

Ephemera

Robert's Ephemera section has a 1975 catalog of all SQ models, this one certainly seems to be their very BOL-est. Upline models list Extra Capacity Stainless or Extra Capacity Porcelain tub, this lone BOL model lists "Family Capacity" and uses 3.5 less gallons per cycle than all others. One speed for sure, timed fill, no Fabic softener dispenser. I have never seen an overflow rinse in action, nor a solid tub machine running! I can't wait. And if the rinsing is really as great as claimed, I will reserve this machine for bleached white load and towel loads, those are the two that always force me in every other machine do do a second rinse. I love Clorox's clean whites, hate the smell, and towels always hold extra suds after only one rinse. I have other machines for slow speed, no worries.

The 75 catalog has 3 "positive fill" machines with infinite level, and 3 Timed fill with choice at the start of the cycle. Rinsing I guess is all full tub.

I still don't have it or the model number yet, but the 75 catalog seems dead on correct. Agitated overflow rinsing at the end of both WASH and RINSE! 210 degree oscilation!

 

[washman]

Fantastic

Please upload some vids. Especially of the famous Arc-Cuate 210 transmission carrying the freight!

http://https//www.youtube.com/watch...ew-vl&list=PLVpngWITH6pJo28Wg06CYC0UuAvdCTSC9

 

[mickeyd]

OH MARK !!!

You will be the envy of the synagogue, provided that it's full of washer dudes.

And who here wouldn't love a classic solid tub Speed Queen. Like the Frigidaires of the same era, they overflow before the wash spin, diluting the suds by half. If you're doing your suds-saving as usual, you'll want to abort it before the spin-off. But if not, this was one of SQ & Frigi's secrets to great rinsing, not to mention a genuine cool-down before they were invented. Depending on the year and model, etc, the wash water can be diluted, again, by a full half. And ya haven't even began the real rinse yet. Little wonder they're so effective at rinsing.

I'm so glad you got this. You always want ultra-vintage, and this certainly one of them. Solid tubs rock.

Congrats. You must be chompin' at the bit with excitement. I can feel it. [this post was last edited: 12/9/2013-23:29]

 

[alr2903]

Akronman, what a great find. It will be interesting when the exact date in known. I too am thinking a little more toward mid 1970's. The iconic atom symbol with "multicycle" is absent. Anyone would love to have it. Akronman, best of luck with your new "Speed Queen".
alr

 

[arbilab]

You can tell when Hannukah is over, all the menorahs sitting out by the curb.

 

[gansky1]

BOL Beauty!

Excellent find!  You'll really enjoy this washer, lots of splashy agitation and overflow action.   If you've never had a solid tub washer before, you'll be looking for more after you play with this one - make room!

 

[akronman]

Ugh

I get it tonight, but it'll be 2-3 days before my buddy with the appliance dolly is available to get it in the basement!

 

[akronman]

The....

seller's husband has been out of town on business, and they didn't want a stranger showing up for the washer until Saturday when he's back. We've been in touch, all should be good.

 

[combo52]

Early 70s SQ Washer

Great find Mark, you will have fun with this washer. as others pointed out this is a reversing motor machine, and I like the fact that it such a basic model, it is really all you need for great results. Also the machines with metered fill were more troublesome and wasted water. When you get it running you will have to check out the 210 degree agitation arc claim I have still never seen one that goes more than about 180 degrees.

Major possible trouble spots on these machines were water pumps, the parts on top of the transmission that caused the machine to agitate or not as the motor reversed, fluid drive clutch assemblies, agitator shaft and pot-metal agitator post under the agitator, the good news is that Bob in Cleveland is one of the real experts on these machines and still has some extra parts for them. The other good news is that these Solid Tub SQs were not as troublesome as the later models that had a real tub brake.

I am like you in that I always like to bleach white loads as all kinds of nasty dirty things are in these loads, always hot water and good detergent and bleach. These loads always get extra rinsing in most washers because I HATE the smell of LCB, I have walked out of eating establishments that have just used bleach to clean floors etc, LOL.

The only two washers that I have that can past this test are my WP Calypso and my WO-65 Frigidaire Unimatic that has the to deep rinses, this was before the overflow rinse machines that do not rinse nearly as well when it comes to bleach, we will await your test results, have a great holiday.

John L.

 

[washman]

The famous Arc-Cuate 210 transmission

has been proven in millions of installations prior to its retirement in 1980.

Using my ana-cana-putican device,I measured a 209.6 degree agitation stroke on my unit. I can live with four tenths of a degree deficiency.

 

[swestoyz]

You're going to LOVE this washer. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it all works out! John is spot on, this SQ has the best of both worlds. Late enough to have the reversing motor, but early enough (and BOL enough) to not have the later brake or metered fill.

Ben

 

[mayfan69]

Mint find

What a nice find: love that minty looking tub....and the colour too!
Congrats.

Cheers
Leon

Oh and Ben (Washman), can you please take your niggling with John about the 210 degree washing arc to private email, its getting a little tiring to read on the forums. If both of you can prove it one way or the other, then it can be settled once and for all.

 

[washman]

mayfan69

Thanks for the advice. I will keep it in mind.

 

[mayfan69]

Just thinking about it.....

I actually have old Speed Queen / Kleenmaid marketing videos here in Australia where they show the differences of agitation arcs between the machines on sale at the time, including a slow motion of the SQ/Kleenmaid and a Simpson which had a 180 degree arc.

In the new year, i'll see about getting these transferred to DVD and onto Youtube, that way everyone can see the differences.

Cheers
Leon

 

[washman]

Interesting

Virtually ALL of the SQ advertising literature (and I have TONS) from "back in the day" which mentions the transmission advertises the stroke as being 210 degrees. In fact, during the later years, it was referred to the acr-q-matic 210 transmission.

See the verbiage in the ad I attached to this post

I'm not "assuming" that it even comes close to 210, just quoting SQ advertising.

 

[yogitunes]

our own DanMan did a video of the new machine for us, with an ingenious idea of dots placed accordingly, as for these trannies, its seems more like 180, granted it is moving fast.....

I may try this out on one of my solidtubs, just to see...

 

[washman]

I forgot about that vid!

Upon further examination even without my ana-cana-putican device , it sure does not look like 210 degrees, more like a 180-190!

Yikes!

And all along I was convinced beyond the shadow of a doubt it was 210 degrees!

Shame on me for not looking harder into this. I hang my head in sorrowful remorse.

 

[mayfan69]

Vids

Once i get the vids uploaded, i'll show you how they did it.

The only way it seems it can be shown is to slow down the video and overlaying it with graphics showing the agitation arc: which is what Kleenmaid did to provide their stated claim of 210 degrees.

They also show a Simpson at the time with its 180 degree action and the differences between the two.

Cheers
Leon

 

[washman]

No cheers for you LEON!

Darn you!

I was convinced beyond the shadow of a doubt it was 210 degrees!

You, sir, burst my bubble.

May your Fosters lager have NO fizz whatsoever!

 

[golittlesport]

Nice!

Gotta love those BOL machines. Congratulations and enjoy! Happy holidays!

 

[akronman]

Installed and running in a snow storm

So I am trapped home alone with my "new" SQ ST, you guys are gonna get LOTS of pics and info tonight, lol. Sorry.

History--It was in the house when they bought in August, used for a week but they had a recent matched set from their old house and decided to sell this, she said she worried it was innefficient. Oh well, maybe it is. Disconnected it on Labor Day weekend and it sat since. It has very new hoses and the pump looks pristine, I believe the previous homeowner got regular service on this. Pics shortly. By the way, they are also selling me this Soft HEat electric dryer, ran for a week in August but also disonnected on Labor Day.
Next post is back to the Speed Queen, and I am home alone trapped happily in a snowstorm, lots of posts tonight, sorry! Lol

 

[washman]

If you post vids

can you get one of the famous Arc-Q-matic transmission in operation?

 

[akronman]

new pics

Here it is washing the blanket I protected it in the car with. There's black tape across the agitator to give my eyes a chance to decide on 180 degrees, 210, etc, I'm saying a hair more than 180, like maybe 185 maximum. Oh well.I video'd a tiny bit, we'll see what I can upload.

Model #DA3780?, the label is bad, serial number impossible. I've seen reference to SQ A37 as a base model, I guess D might be color? or year or minor info?, the A37 is what counts.

It ran 4 loads already, wonderfully. Cameras can lie, the CL ad looked green in some shots, yellow in others, the machine is a bad gold. I couldn't care less in my basement, and while it has some scratches and minor rust on one side, it will not need a major paintjob. That's one thing I like white appliances for, easy repainting.