And here is the 2x2's waiting to be positioned and fastened in its place:
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Looking straight down... near where I fell through four years ago. The nice part is that unlike the reed fencing, the 2x2's easily support my weight, so it's going to be a lot safer going up there and doing routine maintenance/repairs.
Plus, the spacing of the sticks surely will deter depredating cattle ;-)
Plus, the spacing of the sticks surely will deter depredating cattle ;-)
The Other Saw Project
Minor, but it would be cutting pergo-type floor laminate to redo the master bedroom floor. I figure the cuts will be more exact on a big table saw than with a hand-held skill saw.
Minor, but it would be cutting pergo-type floor laminate to redo the master bedroom floor. I figure the cuts will be more exact on a big table saw than with a hand-held skill saw.
the computer I am using can't download some of your pictures-want to see.Just see the one of your 2x2's waiting to be fastened down.glad you will be able to use your saw for the flooring project.Table saws are great for floor jobs.i am assuming your saw came with a carbide blade-you will need that for sure since "engineered" flooring like pergo and others is VERY abrasive-it will dull steel blades quickly.For me I am heavy enough where I don't know if I want to climb on something that is 2X2's.2X4 no problem.
Rex,
The saw came with a carbide blade, and that's generally the only kind I buy.
Sorry the photos are not all visible for you. I don't know what the problem could be - they were all shot with the same camera at the same resolution.
A big reason why I've been sort of picky about the quality of the lumber chosen is that I didn't want knots big enough to compromise what little strength the 2x2's have. And I have althernated 2x2's cut from the same piece of lumber, so the knots don't line up. I am careful not to jump around up there. It's not meant for regular walking, esp since the 2x2's are supported by 2x4's 30" OC, and the 2x4's are supported by steel I-beams about 7' OC. So it all kind of flexes as I walk on it, but not so badly that it might be a home on the shores of Lake Lacrimose. The only access is by step-ladder and I plan on keeping it that way to discourage human traffic up there. Fat raccoons and possums were in large part responsible for the short life of the previous reed covering; they shouldn't have much effect on the 2x2's, although I'd rather they didn't venture up there in the first place.
It could be a nice spot for sun-bathing but it's not worth the risk making that an option.
The saw came with a carbide blade, and that's generally the only kind I buy.
Sorry the photos are not all visible for you. I don't know what the problem could be - they were all shot with the same camera at the same resolution.
A big reason why I've been sort of picky about the quality of the lumber chosen is that I didn't want knots big enough to compromise what little strength the 2x2's have. And I have althernated 2x2's cut from the same piece of lumber, so the knots don't line up. I am careful not to jump around up there. It's not meant for regular walking, esp since the 2x2's are supported by 2x4's 30" OC, and the 2x4's are supported by steel I-beams about 7' OC. So it all kind of flexes as I walk on it, but not so badly that it might be a home on the shores of Lake Lacrimose. The only access is by step-ladder and I plan on keeping it that way to discourage human traffic up there. Fat raccoons and possums were in large part responsible for the short life of the previous reed covering; they shouldn't have much effect on the 2x2's, although I'd rather they didn't venture up there in the first place.
It could be a nice spot for sun-bathing but it's not worth the risk making that an option.
I am wondering if its something to do with the computer network I am on.sometimes the picture threads on Applianceville and Vacuumland "lock up" the computer-I have to exit the internet and reenter to continue reading the threads.most pictures come thru just fine.
Wow-Raccoon and possums-interssting how they are out in the SF area.thought those critters were primarily in the southeast.Gots lots of em out here.Sometimes they are "victims" of the car on the way to work.Good to keep two legged "critters" off the top of your 2X2 roof.
Wow-Raccoon and possums-interssting how they are out in the SF area.thought those critters were primarily in the southeast.Gots lots of em out here.Sometimes they are "victims" of the car on the way to work.Good to keep two legged "critters" off the top of your 2X2 roof.
Raccoons are like large urban rats. They populate Manhattan, I understand, although perhaps not in the millions. They are also fairly in San Francisco, I'm told. But many people don't know they are there because the raccoon is nocturnal and relatively stealthy (except when they walk across the corrugated fiberglass sun panels that make up the roofing over several outdoor areas in the back yard). The lighter weight panels tend to buckle and snap back when a heavy raccoon or possum traverses it, setting off quite a racket. I don't mind the possums much, but the raccoons can be quite destructive - going after the pond fish and various fruits and veggies in the garden.
Exhausted!
I'd like to say I finished off the pergola roof this weekend, but... it's HARD WORK!
My excuse is that this morning I had to return some lumber and get new lumber. Sorting through what the Depot has in search of the least knotty stuff takes time. I cut all I could on Saturday and spent the rest of today (after getting home with the loot) putting that stuff up there.
The good news is that the project is now about 2/3 finished. I'm confident I have enough good wood to finish it off. If not during the week after work (tricky) then surely next weekend. It's probably good exercise, as well.
I did some quick calculations today. By the end of this project I will have sorted, sawn, sanded, carried, drilled, and screwed down about 1400 feet of 2x2 lumber. I will have drilled over 600 holes and screwed over 600 deck screws in them.
I hope the raccoons appreciate it!
I'd like to say I finished off the pergola roof this weekend, but... it's HARD WORK!
My excuse is that this morning I had to return some lumber and get new lumber. Sorting through what the Depot has in search of the least knotty stuff takes time. I cut all I could on Saturday and spent the rest of today (after getting home with the loot) putting that stuff up there.
The good news is that the project is now about 2/3 finished. I'm confident I have enough good wood to finish it off. If not during the week after work (tricky) then surely next weekend. It's probably good exercise, as well.
I did some quick calculations today. By the end of this project I will have sorted, sawn, sanded, carried, drilled, and screwed down about 1400 feet of 2x2 lumber. I will have drilled over 600 holes and screwed over 600 deck screws in them.
I hope the raccoons appreciate it!
BTW, Tolivac, I was looking at the "roof" and I don't think it's much weaker than a standard flat roof of a few decades ago. For example, the stringers on this pergola are 30" apart. On the roof of the main house, the rafters are 24" apart, and same size, 2x4's. Then on top of that there are spaced 1x4's with sizeable gaps, and on top of that, heavy cedar shake shingles. I figure the 2x2's have about the same effective strength as the 1x4's, and 30" is not that much more of a stretch than 24". Granted, the pitched roof thrusts a good part of the load downward to the walls, but it's a minimal pitch (4 in 12). Tying all the 2x2's together to the 2x4's below them with decking screws probably serves to distribute the load across multiple beams and helps to resist at least one person traverse.
One concern I have is the additional weight in the winter when the 2x2's get soaked by the rains. But then the cedar shake roof also absorbs a lot of water and it doesn't seem any worse for the wear (other than that it's about 35 years old now).
One concern I have is the additional weight in the winter when the 2x2's get soaked by the rains. But then the cedar shake roof also absorbs a lot of water and it doesn't seem any worse for the wear (other than that it's about 35 years old now).
Where DO you put the clothes in?
Where do you put the clothes in?
Well, I admit this whole thread is not particularly laundry related, until I recalled how some people wash rugs.
They take them out to the driveway and hose them down, maybe srub them with some carpet cleaner, rinse well, and then let them dry.
I *could* possible take a washed/rinsed/wet rug up on top of the fish pond and let it dry out there.
Kind of like a French rug laundry over koi, instead of over grass.
After a while I'd probably hose down the 2x2's first so they don't transfer accumulated grime and grit to the freshly laundered items.
Where do you put the clothes in?
Well, I admit this whole thread is not particularly laundry related, until I recalled how some people wash rugs.
They take them out to the driveway and hose them down, maybe srub them with some carpet cleaner, rinse well, and then let them dry.
I *could* possible take a washed/rinsed/wet rug up on top of the fish pond and let it dry out there.
Kind of like a French rug laundry over koi, instead of over grass.
After a while I'd probably hose down the 2x2's first so they don't transfer accumulated grime and grit to the freshly laundered items.
