Low temperature put on test
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gusherb
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I tried the low temp thing for about a month and wasn't happy. In order to get the same results (using Tide) I had to increase the wash time considerably. If I didn't, any clothes that went in dirty would come out dirty - but never had that happen when selecting a warm cycle.
At 1:32 "They`d hardly invite us into watch it fail."
Well, these whites look pretty dingy to me as they tumble around, don`t they ?
Well, these whites look pretty dingy to me as they tumble around, don`t they ?
zanussi_lover
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Low Temperature Washing
I do wash at Low Temperatures of 30/40 degrees. And I do find that things come out nice and white, but I don't wash at low temps for everything.
I personally wouldn't wash everything at 30 degrees as the machine needs a hot wash to flush out the pipes.
In regards to hygiene, you don't eat your clothes, and the detergent contains surfactants which suspends all the dirt in the water, and this gets rinsed away during the rinse cycle, and everything around you contains bacteria....
As Persil says "dirt is good" it builds up our immune systems!!
Before 30 degree detergents came out, i always did whites at 60 colours at 40, but now I tend to wash most clothes at 30 (loads with underwear in at 40) and sheets and towels at 60.
Its all about using your judgement, if the item has no visible staining, then you can get away with washing it in a 30 wash - I use a liquid for low temps washes, as it dissolves faster and doesn't leave a residue
Sheets and towels get a hot wash to remove dust mites, bacteria and stains - I use a biological powder or a liquid detergent + Oxi stain remover for these.
I do wash at Low Temperatures of 30/40 degrees. And I do find that things come out nice and white, but I don't wash at low temps for everything.
I personally wouldn't wash everything at 30 degrees as the machine needs a hot wash to flush out the pipes.
In regards to hygiene, you don't eat your clothes, and the detergent contains surfactants which suspends all the dirt in the water, and this gets rinsed away during the rinse cycle, and everything around you contains bacteria....
As Persil says "dirt is good" it builds up our immune systems!!
Before 30 degree detergents came out, i always did whites at 60 colours at 40, but now I tend to wash most clothes at 30 (loads with underwear in at 40) and sheets and towels at 60.
Its all about using your judgement, if the item has no visible staining, then you can get away with washing it in a 30 wash - I use a liquid for low temps washes, as it dissolves faster and doesn't leave a residue
Sheets and towels get a hot wash to remove dust mites, bacteria and stains - I use a biological powder or a liquid detergent + Oxi stain remover for these.
hotpointfan
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Washers
Wavering off topic here slightly, but I think it's a great idea for P&G to have several different models of washing machines, instead of using the same one, because, as we know, all washing machines are different, ie, there's a difference between an Indesit & a Miele. And this brings realism to the test too as not everyone has the same washing machine!
Wavering off topic here slightly, but I think it's a great idea for P&G to have several different models of washing machines, instead of using the same one, because, as we know, all washing machines are different, ie, there's a difference between an Indesit & a Miele. And this brings realism to the test too as not everyone has the same washing machine!
nickuk
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Temperature
Please don't assume that the temperature you select is actually the temperature you get. Washing machines of any brand are extremely inconsistent on temperature (especially in the 30-50 range) due a whole bunch of variables.
To test actual water temperature with a front loader is indeed an irritating calamity, involving such things as bypassing door locks, watching the electricity meter or listening carefully for the `click' of the heater switching off. One must test at this point as water temp will begin dropping from that point on, so you are testing what temp the machine `peaks' at.
First step is to get an accurate thermometer, the digital fish tank ones from the main on line auction site can be very good and inexpensive. Perform the tests with a normal load of washing in the machine, as an empty machine often gives slightly different results and one needs `real life' results.
I have found that if (on a 30c wash) the machine hits 33c, this is nice warm water (to my hand)and would be quite acceptable to me for certain loads. On the other hand if it's only hitting 26/27c, this is really not far off cold and I wouldn't personally use it for anything. Similarly on a 40 cycle, if your machine hits 43/44c this is actually quite `hot' to touch (I find it hard to hold my hand in 45c water for more than about 5 seconds) so you might think twice about using this cycle for jeans or non colour fasts. A different 40c cycle choice on the same machine might wash at 37/38 which is perfectly `warm'. I still stick to my belief that min wash water temp for any fabrics should be 37c (apx body temp, the temp at which basic body soils will melt) though accept this is probably my misconception rather than reality.
My advice is to spend some time testing what's actually going on inside rather than believing the dial!! Knowledge is power! What is probably an acceptable margin of `error' to the manufacturers (a couple of degrees) either side of stated temp, a difference of 5 degrees is actually the difference between cold and luke warm, warm and hottish....
Previously I have used an LG which always did 34c on a 40 wash, an Ariston which did 32 and a Hoover Softwave which did 45. A Philips Slimstar used to barely get above 40 when I used to wash sheets on number 4 (synthetics 50). A Bosch Classix which did 44 degrees on `Easy Cares 40' - but this was actually very useful because the machine didn't have a 50 setting.......
Please don't assume that the temperature you select is actually the temperature you get. Washing machines of any brand are extremely inconsistent on temperature (especially in the 30-50 range) due a whole bunch of variables.
To test actual water temperature with a front loader is indeed an irritating calamity, involving such things as bypassing door locks, watching the electricity meter or listening carefully for the `click' of the heater switching off. One must test at this point as water temp will begin dropping from that point on, so you are testing what temp the machine `peaks' at.
First step is to get an accurate thermometer, the digital fish tank ones from the main on line auction site can be very good and inexpensive. Perform the tests with a normal load of washing in the machine, as an empty machine often gives slightly different results and one needs `real life' results.
I have found that if (on a 30c wash) the machine hits 33c, this is nice warm water (to my hand)and would be quite acceptable to me for certain loads. On the other hand if it's only hitting 26/27c, this is really not far off cold and I wouldn't personally use it for anything. Similarly on a 40 cycle, if your machine hits 43/44c this is actually quite `hot' to touch (I find it hard to hold my hand in 45c water for more than about 5 seconds) so you might think twice about using this cycle for jeans or non colour fasts. A different 40c cycle choice on the same machine might wash at 37/38 which is perfectly `warm'. I still stick to my belief that min wash water temp for any fabrics should be 37c (apx body temp, the temp at which basic body soils will melt) though accept this is probably my misconception rather than reality.
My advice is to spend some time testing what's actually going on inside rather than believing the dial!! Knowledge is power! What is probably an acceptable margin of `error' to the manufacturers (a couple of degrees) either side of stated temp, a difference of 5 degrees is actually the difference between cold and luke warm, warm and hottish....
Previously I have used an LG which always did 34c on a 40 wash, an Ariston which did 32 and a Hoover Softwave which did 45. A Philips Slimstar used to barely get above 40 when I used to wash sheets on number 4 (synthetics 50). A Bosch Classix which did 44 degrees on `Easy Cares 40' - but this was actually very useful because the machine didn't have a 50 setting.......
aquarius1984
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Interesting stuff, got a 90 deg 'quickwash' going on the Boschette with a load of towels and just thought id pop to see what the temp is. Heaters done its thing and the programme is at the wash stage so this is its true temp for today. I don't think it got up to 90degs by any means as it wouldn't have dropped this much in such a short amount of time. Im surprised. Il be checking the temp on a full 90 wash when I come to do some whites later in the week.
hoover8pulse
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I do regular loads on the A59' on my Hoover machine at 40c & sheets/towels at 60c on te same A59' wash. However if I have a dirtier load of either then I will use either the Coloureds or Synthetics programme dependent on what needs washing at the right temperature.
I have also used Hoovers Stain Blaster feature that heats up the water to temperature however many times it is needed so I use this on dirtier loads.
I'm not sure on the A59' cycle whether it does heat up to the correct temperature but someone told me that if you set the temperature to 40c it heats up to roughly 35c & at 60c it's about 54c. I'm not sure if this is true though but everything does out clean.
Isn't Ariel the best powder for washing machines anyway because it leaves no residue?
I have also used Hoovers Stain Blaster feature that heats up the water to temperature however many times it is needed so I use this on dirtier loads.
I'm not sure on the A59' cycle whether it does heat up to the correct temperature but someone told me that if you set the temperature to 40c it heats up to roughly 35c & at 60c it's about 54c. I'm not sure if this is true though but everything does out clean.
Isn't Ariel the best powder for washing machines anyway because it leaves no residue?
Thanks
Thanks for the comments. I do remember seeing in the daily fail about machines not being the temps they said they were, (one Hoover machine only hit 43c on a 60c program (this was through the whole cycle).
I have an LG F1495BDSA 12kg steam washer, if anyone knows how reliable for temps these are? (It was £799, so hopefully it's in the better range?).
Thanks for the comments. I do remember seeing in the daily fail about machines not being the temps they said they were, (one Hoover machine only hit 43c on a 60c program (this was through the whole cycle).
I have an LG F1495BDSA 12kg steam washer, if anyone knows how reliable for temps these are? (It was £799, so hopefully it's in the better range?).
nickuk
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Nice to see those towels getting a good ole skool wash Rob! Beware the probe testing - if you have an addictive personality like me, you'll end up testing all different cycles and hours of your life will whizz by......
Liamy1 / Hooverpulse - I have found that Persil bio powder no longer rinses any cleaner than Ariel. This is since the Unilever formulation was recently compacted, in line with P/G resizing. So you are no longer missing cleaner rinsing with Persil (in my experience) and may as well stick with Ariel, which in terms of bio powders also happens to be my detergent of choice. Furthermore, the tables seem to have turned and Persil is now the stronger scented of the two, to the extent that you can still smell it on DIRTY linen waiting for the wash which is a real turn off to me. It's all personal choice, but current formulation Persil powder isn't for me. Current Daz isn't a bad powder either, doesn't leave too much stink and is a great detergent for the price, especially if you look out for the offers. I've found it performs very similarly to Ariel on general laundry, it is said less good on certain stains, but to my nose laundry isn't quite as fresh with Daz either.
Woah, look at me going off topic. Still, you started it Liamy1 and it's your thread after all.....
Now, back to those temperatures.....
Liamy1 / Hooverpulse - I have found that Persil bio powder no longer rinses any cleaner than Ariel. This is since the Unilever formulation was recently compacted, in line with P/G resizing. So you are no longer missing cleaner rinsing with Persil (in my experience) and may as well stick with Ariel, which in terms of bio powders also happens to be my detergent of choice. Furthermore, the tables seem to have turned and Persil is now the stronger scented of the two, to the extent that you can still smell it on DIRTY linen waiting for the wash which is a real turn off to me. It's all personal choice, but current formulation Persil powder isn't for me. Current Daz isn't a bad powder either, doesn't leave too much stink and is a great detergent for the price, especially if you look out for the offers. I've found it performs very similarly to Ariel on general laundry, it is said less good on certain stains, but to my nose laundry isn't quite as fresh with Daz either.
Woah, look at me going off topic. Still, you started it Liamy1 and it's your thread after all.....
Now, back to those temperatures.....
aegokocarat
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I always do towels and whites (separately of course) on a 60*c programme and once a month on a 90*c, sheets get either a 50*c or a 60*c and coloureds, jeans and darks get a 40*c or (sometimes when stuffs new and an in-depth wash isn't necessary) a 30*c wash.
I found when I did whites on a 40*c wash that they looked dingy (with powder) though that may have been my fault for doing mixed washes..
I found when I did whites on a 40*c wash that they looked dingy (with powder) though that may have been my fault for doing mixed washes..
Hahaha
No worries nickuk. I gotta admit I do have a real thing for detergents, so talk away
Thanks for the advice regarding persil, Im just about halfway through a new box (after not buying it for a while) so haven't really picked up on it now not being cleaner rinsing, but on my next load (which I need to start if I have any hope of getting through it before bedtime) I will be looking
No worries nickuk. I gotta admit I do have a real thing for detergents, so talk away
Thanks for the advice regarding persil, Im just about halfway through a new box (after not buying it for a while) so haven't really picked up on it now not being cleaner rinsing, but on my next load (which I need to start if I have any hope of getting through it before bedtime) I will be looking
hoover8pulse
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Thanks liamy1 & nickuk for your replies.
Nickuk Daz is quite good as a general detergent. It cleans, smells nice & is cheap for what it is. However, I find that Ariel makes clithes smell cleaner & look fresher too, anything I wash with Ariel always tends to come out cleaner & brighter than it does with Daz despite the higher bleach content & more complex build of formula. The only problem I find with Daz is that it only tends to remove selective stains - namely blood & chocolate on a 40c wash, anything else I either increase the temperature or put a little extra detergent in which removes the stain eventually. Nearly every stain I've tried with Ariel has come out first time.
Has anyone also noticed Ariel is a lot less smelly than what it was a few years ago? My current box of Bio has a really nice clean scent to it. The other one was disgusting.
I don't use Persil, it tends to fade coloureds terribly, yet Ariel has a higher bleach content & my clothes have never faded when using P&G detergents. Ariel is quite clean rinsing as is Daz but that could be because my Hoover has quite good water levels for rinses & I sometimes select Sensitive Care too.
Nickuk Daz is quite good as a general detergent. It cleans, smells nice & is cheap for what it is. However, I find that Ariel makes clithes smell cleaner & look fresher too, anything I wash with Ariel always tends to come out cleaner & brighter than it does with Daz despite the higher bleach content & more complex build of formula. The only problem I find with Daz is that it only tends to remove selective stains - namely blood & chocolate on a 40c wash, anything else I either increase the temperature or put a little extra detergent in which removes the stain eventually. Nearly every stain I've tried with Ariel has come out first time.
Has anyone also noticed Ariel is a lot less smelly than what it was a few years ago? My current box of Bio has a really nice clean scent to it. The other one was disgusting.
I don't use Persil, it tends to fade coloureds terribly, yet Ariel has a higher bleach content & my clothes have never faded when using P&G detergents. Ariel is quite clean rinsing as is Daz but that could be because my Hoover has quite good water levels for rinses & I sometimes select Sensitive Care too.
hoover8pulse
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Forgot to add aswell, Almat Bio is good for clean rinsing & my mum tried it on a 30c wash with some bath mats (I didn't know until the wash had finished) & thy cane out sparkling clean. I've only ever see it on a 40c so far but for £2.39 a box you cannot go wrong.
paulc
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Hoover8pulse
Ariel will appear to make your colours brighter as it contains the enzyme cellulase which acts like an optical brightened on colours. It dissolves stray fibres and smooths the remaining ones helping to reduce that "dusty" look that can happen with other powders
Ariel will appear to make your colours brighter as it contains the enzyme cellulase which acts like an optical brightened on colours. It dissolves stray fibres and smooths the remaining ones helping to reduce that "dusty" look that can happen with other powders
hoover8pulse
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Thanks paulc I wondered why that black bedding set I washed in Ariel looked brighter & cleaner. Thank you x
xhoover8pulse
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Liamy1 I have both Colour & Bio Ariel but I just use the Bio one mostly.
Doesn't the colour version contain more enzymes?
Doesn't the colour version contain more enzymes?
