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I thought this was a particularly good episode...Peggy's mother laying on the guilt after she bought her a new Admiral...Sal's wife catching on....Don and Betty's daughter after the death of her father...the only show I make a point of seeing..
 
Ditto, it was a good episode. "Betty Draper" has a new refrigerator too. alr2903
 
It's been a good season, so far. I got a kick out of Peggy smoking weed for the first time last week. I really like how January Jones plays Betty Draper---always a little unsettling. And for some reason I keep wishing Ken Cosgrove was the gay character, LOL.
 
Bye Bye Sugar...

They hit the nail on the head, that singer was no Ann Margaret! It was interesting to hear Sal talk about how they did the production of it though.
 
that refrigerator

Glad to see I wasn't the only one to notice the new refrigerator. I've wondered before why there was such an old unit in the kitchen - back in those days, looks were VERY important. That type house, Don's job, the Caddy, etc. and having a old single door unit?????? Also, did anyone else notice the dishwasher in the scene where Bets is washing dishes as her father wants to talk? I don't remember one from the previous years.

It will be interesting to see how the storyline goes with Sal. I could see so many avenues but I'm not the writers.
 
Joan Holloway

Joan is one of my favorites, wondering what will happen with her and the handsome young surgeon. She does seem to have the doomed life. They do have an out of date GE fridge in the office break room, looks like the same one Don and Betty had. What a nice alternative to the reality crap that fills most of TV.
 
Truly a great show, and reminds some of us of our parents and thier ideals that became challenged during this time. It is wonderfully set, and the colors of that decade come through as strongly as the angst of a generation straddling the change from the conservative earlier 60's to the liberal late 60's, like the transition from the Eisenhower era to the Woodstock era. Also, the cars are cool as hell!
Best damn thing on TV.
 
I also like the Joan character and hope she becomes more of a central figure, so to speak.

Also loved the pot smoking, especially when Peggy had her vision of a hammock on a rooftop for the Bacardi campaign and didn't hesitate to advise the other two brainstomers "you can leave now" because at that point, she had it all in the bag.

The Draper fridge has also been addressed in another thread floating around this section currently.

Ralph
 
Beadsobleach, I think our "Joan" is coming around after she was more or less date raped in Don's office (i noticed she left the bouquet behind), I also notice how supportive she has been to Peggy. Greg the fiancee lost some of her respect and when he forced her to play the accordion at the dinner party for his chief of staff, she was not pleased. I think Joan has discovered the "glass ceiling".
 
There is one thing that kind of gives Mad Men away that it i

And it bothers me no end: It is the ceiling at Sterling Cooper! First of all, did that type of suspended ceiling even exist in 1960-3 and the fact that it is SO CLEAN AND WHITE and every light fixture works perfectly! If it were real life, it would look like s---- in 3 years, less with all the smoking they do. Just take at look at a 2-3 year old Target or K-Sears, there is dust and water leaks and brown stains and since when was every light working? I wonder if the producers thought of this.
 
I think the ceiling issue was out there right away during season 1.

More appropriate would be those long narrow flush flourescent ceiling lights that had the louvers, set into a sea of asbestos tiles. The kind with the perfect grid of holes in each one.

Or something like that.

Ralph
 
The Picnic

I forgot to mention the picnic scene last season where the relatively well-to-do Draper family picked up their belongings, left all of their picnic garbage just lying there, and walked off. They came off as total low-life doing such a thing. As a child of the 60's, I don't recall ever seeing this sort of behavior.

What was that scene about, and was this typical picnic protocol during that period? Both my partner and I found it strange and a bit disturbing.

I know, like cigarettes and alcohol in the workplace aren't.

Ralph
 
The Picnic

I thought the same thing. Like Don just took his empty can o'beer and chucked it. I remember Betts talking to the kids about something during that scene. Mostly it was just to show off the new Caddy. People weren't quite so environmentally conscious in the early 60s. But then, not as much stuff was disposable - deposit bottles and whatnot. We went on picnics and I think the only trash we might have created was paper cups and napkins. We brought everything in regular bowls, jars, bottles, used regular plastic plates and real flatware.
 
Not only did we bring "real" utensils, our parents taught us to leave the area better than we found it. A lesson I'm afraid is not so common in this day and age.
 
A lesson I'm afraid is not so common in this day and age

Exactly, but people were more responsible in 1962. I'd like to know why that sequence was written in. There are other methods to showing off a new car.
 

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