WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.infowars.com/bureaucrats-will-carry-out-mandatory-home-inspections-under-climate-bill/
http://www.infowars.com/bureaucrats-will-carry-out-mandatory-home-inspections-under-climate-bill/
Mandatory Home Inspections under Climate Bill
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.....and this, boys and girls, is why I hate liberalism!
704.1.2.5.1.8 Estimated age and efficiency of major appliances such as dishwashers, refrigerators, freezers, washing machines and dryers
With our immediate future filled with this type of BS, sometimes I wish I was old and on the verge of death.
704.1.2.5.1.8 Estimated age and efficiency of major appliances such as dishwashers, refrigerators, freezers, washing machines and dryers
With our immediate future filled with this type of BS, sometimes I wish I was old and on the verge of death.
maytagbear
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As a renter
in a college town, the city health department inspects all licensed rental units every summer, even if they are not student rentals. I have dealt with this every year since 1996.
Shut up already and deal.
Lawrence/Maytagbear.
in a college town, the city health department inspects all licensed rental units every summer, even if they are not student rentals. I have dealt with this every year since 1996.
Shut up already and deal.
Lawrence/Maytagbear.
Site is so full of false info and innuendo I seriously doubt there is ANY truth there.
Hmmm, clicked on some of the links. What a total load of crap.
ronhic
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For goodness sake people....
...get a grip...talk about sensationalist garbage. Just what information did they choose to leave out of that article in order to inflame the reader???
Can you honestly imagine the government in any State of the US demanding that people retrofit their homes at THEIR expense to make them more energy efficient??? NO...you can't and it won't happen.
But, what I bet will happen is that it will become mandatory to provide an 'efficiency report' of some description to a purchaser of a property to give them some idea of what that particular property costs to run...perfectly reasonable. So if you choose to have a drafty home without good glazing that uses lots of old and inefficient heating/cooling appliances then that is fine, but when you come to sell, the rating that you have due to that inefficiency will drag the rating of the home down and could ultimately affect the value/sale price or even what a bank may choose to lend against it....
From our perspective here...
Canberra already has mandatory energy rating for all properties that are put on the market for sale. It is compulsory at the vendors expense (recouped at sale) to provide both a building and an energy report. This covers pretty much every aspect of a house.
- Construction
- Age
- Insulation and type
- Glazing
- Curtains/Blinds and their properties
- Floor coverings
- House aspect
etc. etc....
it is then given a value from 0 to 5...5 being the best.
With that report we are also given recommendations of what we can do to increase the efficiency of our house. Be it better insulation, change to CFL, move to off-peak hot water....etc
AND....new builds have to comply with a compulsory minimum depending on which state they are in. Given that they are being built there is no excuse that they shouldn't be as efficient as possible.
And no, you don't have the right to not comply regardless of where you build...
...get a grip...talk about sensationalist garbage. Just what information did they choose to leave out of that article in order to inflame the reader???
Can you honestly imagine the government in any State of the US demanding that people retrofit their homes at THEIR expense to make them more energy efficient??? NO...you can't and it won't happen.
But, what I bet will happen is that it will become mandatory to provide an 'efficiency report' of some description to a purchaser of a property to give them some idea of what that particular property costs to run...perfectly reasonable. So if you choose to have a drafty home without good glazing that uses lots of old and inefficient heating/cooling appliances then that is fine, but when you come to sell, the rating that you have due to that inefficiency will drag the rating of the home down and could ultimately affect the value/sale price or even what a bank may choose to lend against it....
From our perspective here...
Canberra already has mandatory energy rating for all properties that are put on the market for sale. It is compulsory at the vendors expense (recouped at sale) to provide both a building and an energy report. This covers pretty much every aspect of a house.
- Construction
- Age
- Insulation and type
- Glazing
- Curtains/Blinds and their properties
- Floor coverings
- House aspect
etc. etc....
it is then given a value from 0 to 5...5 being the best.
With that report we are also given recommendations of what we can do to increase the efficiency of our house. Be it better insulation, change to CFL, move to off-peak hot water....etc
AND....new builds have to comply with a compulsory minimum depending on which state they are in. Given that they are being built there is no excuse that they shouldn't be as efficient as possible.
And no, you don't have the right to not comply regardless of where you build...
ronhic
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Liberalism is something completely different. Liberalism is a political stream that wants less involvement of the government, not more. In fact the United States of America was the first liberal country in the word. Since then apparently the word liberalism has lost it's true meaning...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism
andrewinorlando
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This must have been printed in a republican paper! Just how stupid have people today become to believe this crap? Sure, "they" are going to audit every residence in America. Can someone get real out there? And just who is going to conduct this mammoth undertaking? It would end up in court citing "privacy concerns" for years before it every became reality. Come on folks, we're smarter than that.
Electric and gas utilities have sponsored these programs for decades...residential and commercial audit, high efficiency equipment rebate and new construction programs. This is not something new. If you want to take adavantage of these, you have to consent to a premise audit in most cases, which is very detailed and takes many hours to complete. These programs have resulted in plenty of avoided generation over the last three decades with Long Island Lighting Company (LIPA) being one of the first with a comprehensive suite of programs aimed at every customer class.
Some folks really need to get a grip before they spout this gibberish.
Electric and gas utilities have sponsored these programs for decades...residential and commercial audit, high efficiency equipment rebate and new construction programs. This is not something new. If you want to take adavantage of these, you have to consent to a premise audit in most cases, which is very detailed and takes many hours to complete. These programs have resulted in plenty of avoided generation over the last three decades with Long Island Lighting Company (LIPA) being one of the first with a comprehensive suite of programs aimed at every customer class.
Some folks really need to get a grip before they spout this gibberish.
sudsmaster
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Louis,
I think that in the USA, what Europeans call Liberalism is now called Libertarianism. There's even a Libertarian Party here, which you probably already know about. They're an odd mix of conservative fiscal policies and left wing tolerance (they are in support, for example, of deconstructing laws against things such as drugs, prostitution, etc) and of course smaller government.
I think that in the USA, what Europeans call Liberalism is now called Libertarianism. There's even a Libertarian Party here, which you probably already know about. They're an odd mix of conservative fiscal policies and left wing tolerance (they are in support, for example, of deconstructing laws against things such as drugs, prostitution, etc) and of course smaller government.
sudsmaster
Well-known member
Mandatory home energy audit?
From what I gather, the original bill had existing homes put up for sale being required to have an energy audit.
The bill, as passed by the House, further restricts that, to just requiring an energy audit for new home construction.
Big difference from the "Chicken Little" original post.
From what I gather, the original bill had existing homes put up for sale being required to have an energy audit.
The bill, as passed by the House, further restricts that, to just requiring an energy audit for new home construction.
Big difference from the "Chicken Little" original post.
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