Maytag A712 & DE 712

[toggleswitch]

..It was the 4th of July, I tell you !

~My Plug Queen created an outlet to convert a 220 dryer to 110.

It's actually a very heavy-duty home-made extension cord of sorts that plugs into a 110v standard wall socket/outlet/ power-point. The other end has a large 30a 220v 3-prong receptacle.

The "hot" that handles only the heating element is actually fed a neutral in and by the extension cord; so the heater becomes about 1,250w (rounded) on 110 instead of 5,000w on 220v.

Plugging the dryer into the dyer outlet on the wall feeds the heater 220v, and using this extensio cord feeds the heater 110v.

ONLY CAVEAT:
Since this is an older cord and plug on the dryer with three conductors (instead of the newer system of 4 conductors and prongs) the ground and neutral are shared over one conductor. The machine itself is gounded/earthed to the neutral terminal of the wiring terminal block. It is therefore crucial to ensure the outlet has its polarity correct or this thingy will blow fuses at once.

 

[johnb300m]

I am insanely jealous, and only hope to find such a good pair of Maytags when it's time for my own home, which should happen sometime this summer.



It's between an LA set or a Neptune set.

 

[mayfan69]

Congrats on a lovely pair Gary

Hey Gary,

Glad you got these machines! They look in mint condition!!
You really can't do wrong with these machines: I have the matching A512 washer and dryer pair. Pity we never had the TOL versions here!

Cheers
Leon

 

[swestoyz]

Hey Gary - this set is in AMAZING shape! So glad you saved them, the photos were just a blast. Glad to hear they had a home in Iowa at one time I also had no idea the bell was still being used on the 12 series machines - way cool.

Ben

 

[tlee618]

Gary and Steve these machines are just beautiful!! What a great find. Glad that you were able to save them.

 

[gadgetgary]

Ben

Glad you enjoyed the pics. Was a fun day to bring these machines back to life.

Yay for 4 speed selections.....TOL!

Can anyone tell me the approximate date of manufacture?

The back label states 'Series 04'

 

[gadgetgary]

These machines have found their place

In the laundry room with their older cousins

Maytag A108 washer and DE309 dryer

 

[gadgetgary]

And some more cousins

Tag Hags

 

[appnut]

The Bristol Maytag Laundramat!!

 

[gansky1]

Oooh, they look wonderful! These machines were built like tanks, I always thought the dryers were a little over-built.

Was the lens missing for the drum lamp on the dryer? It should be there as the machine will draw air through this and throw off the balance of the universe and probably slow down drying. I would think you might be able to find this part - #3-12892 (new # would be 3012892).

From the Maytag service manual on the DE712 time dry control:

Time Dry Operation - D712

With timer set for Time Dry, contact 3 and 4 in timer (BU to WH/RD) are closed and bypass the capacitor charging circuit. Since capacitor cannot charge, the solenoid cannot energize to shut dryer off. When the selected time has run down, contact 4 opens and contact 5 closes (BU to GY). This bypasses both high value resistors on the control board (13M & 33M) to set up a "fast charge" circuit through 3 meg-ohm repeat chime resistor. The capacitor will charge in about 1 to 1 1/2 minutes and energize the shut-off solenoid. Cool-down will follow if heat was selected for the Time Dry cycle.

Note: If the load is still "wet" at this point the sensor will prevent the charge from building on the the capacitor until the load is down to at least Damp Dry.

 

[70series]

Congratulations on getting your new set. They look like they just came from the factory.

Have a good one,
James

 

[toggleswitch]

But then again WHY mess with a classic?

Fascinating, thank you Gansky for the technicals.

~Note: If the load is still "wet" at this point the sensor will prevent the charge from building on the the capacitor until the load is down to at least Damp Dry.

Fascinating, thank you Gansky for the technicals.

Or I could put a switch in effectively bypassing the appropriate sensor (to ground/earth) and fool the damn thing into shutting off!

(Hello Doctor? Hi, yes I 've been noticing excessive and continuous dishcharge......)

 

[hoover1060]

WOW!

Those are beauties Gary, congrats on them!

 

[gadgetgary]

Oopsie~!

Toggle realized you would need a switch to prevent it from grouinding to fool it into shutting off.

 

[sudsmaster]

Whirlpool killing Kitchenaid washer engineering

As far as I can recall, Kitchenaid didn't have any washers before Whirlpool bought them. My impression was that KA washers were TOL Whirpool, more or less incorporating with a year or so delay the little extras that Kenmore added to their Whirlpool sourced washers/dryers. The Kitchenaid Superba seemed to be equivalent to a Lady Kenmore in features.

The dishwashers of course are another matter. So far they haven't gutted the stand mixers, but give them time ;-(.

I do regret letting a beautiful digital push button all-black matching Kitchenaid washer/dryer set slip a couple of years ago. It really looked nice (posted the CL photos here, as I recall). Don't know if Kenmore ever had anything equivalent to that set.

 

[rp2813]

I guess I shouldn't be suprised to see how similar things look behind the panels on these machines compared to their 10-15 year older counterparts. Amazed to see the end of cycle bell still being used though.

What beautiful and clean machines these are! I swear if I had a set-up for an extra laundry pair, I would likely own a vintage Maytag W/D. There are times when you need to do some kick-ass laundering that requires a workhorse like Maytag was once famous for. My Duet washer needs to be treated with kid gloves and it would be refreshing to be able to run a tough load through a machine that was capable of taking anything you could throw at it, quietly and efficiently handling it all with the ease and simplicity that makes Maytags so attractive.

Congratulations on a great score!

Ralph

 

[estesguy]

Control switch

Seeing that control switch on that dryer brings back memories. That thing can be a problem. I had a TOL DE810, maybe? Its been too many years to remember for sure but I bought it in 1984. It was totally electronic. I don't even think it had any selections for timed drying. Anyways, after a few years it would run okay, but quit heating somewhere along the line after you started a load. If you would re-start the load, it would heat fine for awhile, then quit again. So that lead me to the control switch. If I held the push to start button down, it would heat fine. When you push to start it moves a bakelite strip sideways inside of this control, causing some contact points to close and others to open. Over time, this bakelite wears down somehow, and just the small vibration of the dryer running causes this strip to move, allowing the points for the heating element to become open, and you loose heat. The only way to fix this that I know of, was to replace the control switch with a new one. They would last several years, but eventually, I had to replace it again. Other than that, I had no problems, but that switch can cause you some problems. Just an FYI that might help someone with the same problem, figure out how to fix it quicker.

 

[jimmyb]

Great Machines

They are great condition and a nice addition to your collection!

 

[gadgetgary]

Thanks for the compliments

I am seriously considering making this set my 'daily drivers'.

 

[funguy10]

Oh, those are the same Maytag Neptunes with mechanical controls you posted about in another thread. You should now find one of those Top-Loading Maytag Neptune washers with the 2 discs inside that counter-rotate. And of course its matching dryer.