My appliance parts guy told me his Maytag rep told him Samsung is also in the running. With the new Neptunes being made by them,who knows?
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Maytag from bad to worse
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Poor Maytag
sounds like the same fate for Maytag like what happened to the Royal Appliance company.They make those SUPER all metal upright and tank type vacuums.They also make the "dirt Devil" line of vacuums.Now Royal was bought out by a Malaysian outfit called "Tech-Com"--They closed down the Royal Cleveland Ohio headquarters and moved it all to Malaysia.I have an upright made there-its very good quality.Just as good as the US ones-I would love to see a US person or company buy then up from Tech-Com and move the operation back to the US.Guess its just a wish at this point.The canisters they make now(Royal discontinued those Great ALL METAL "Torpedos")The canister they market now is designed more for Oreintal hoimes than American ones-the machine would be better for detailing your car or electronic gear than your home with the miniature attachments.
I think US companies SHOULD worry about making jobs here--if not no one in the US will have a job or the income to buy the overpriced non-USA made goods.It used to be if you worked in an American based company here-you could get enough pay from the company -you could afford to buy the product you wre building.Do you think the workers in Malaysia,China,etc are getting paid enough to afford to buy the things they are building??And since they are NOT building it for themselves-do they care about the products quality?
Acually if I were an executive-would LOVE to go the Newton Iowa-With the big pay you could live like a KING in such a town-the living costs there would be lower than that of the less desirable big cities-not to mention that you would less likely to be "mugged" by muggers for your hard earned cash!!
sounds like the same fate for Maytag like what happened to the Royal Appliance company.They make those SUPER all metal upright and tank type vacuums.They also make the "dirt Devil" line of vacuums.Now Royal was bought out by a Malaysian outfit called "Tech-Com"--They closed down the Royal Cleveland Ohio headquarters and moved it all to Malaysia.I have an upright made there-its very good quality.Just as good as the US ones-I would love to see a US person or company buy then up from Tech-Com and move the operation back to the US.Guess its just a wish at this point.The canisters they make now(Royal discontinued those Great ALL METAL "Torpedos")The canister they market now is designed more for Oreintal hoimes than American ones-the machine would be better for detailing your car or electronic gear than your home with the miniature attachments.
I think US companies SHOULD worry about making jobs here--if not no one in the US will have a job or the income to buy the overpriced non-USA made goods.It used to be if you worked in an American based company here-you could get enough pay from the company -you could afford to buy the product you wre building.Do you think the workers in Malaysia,China,etc are getting paid enough to afford to buy the things they are building??And since they are NOT building it for themselves-do they care about the products quality?
Acually if I were an executive-would LOVE to go the Newton Iowa-With the big pay you could live like a KING in such a town-the living costs there would be lower than that of the less desirable big cities-not to mention that you would less likely to be "mugged" by muggers for your hard earned cash!!
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outsourcing jobs
Who is going to be left that will be able to buy anything when we are all working part time for the likes of WalMart or a convenience store for minimum wage? Not many.....
The whole idea of stock holders and owners being made wealthy while the workers suffer is ridiculous....
Who is going to be left that will be able to buy anything when we are all working part time for the likes of WalMart or a convenience store for minimum wage? Not many.....
The whole idea of stock holders and owners being made wealthy while the workers suffer is ridiculous....
Maytag from bad to worse
Hi everyone, I hope everyone is okay,
I regret to advise all of you that this situation here in Australia is just as bad or possibly worse, like you good folk we find it nearly impossible to buy anything here which does not come from China or somewhere in Asia.
I remember when Hoover,Kelvinator,Simpson,Westinghouse,Malleys,
and one or two others were all seperate companies here in Oz and if memory serves me correctly these brands were slowly taken over by Email(which made Westinghouse by the way),and so in the end they owned the lot, then a few years ago they sold out to Electrolux and so basically the entire Oz whitegoods industry is owned by 1 company, (so much for competition laws).
I believE (and anyone please correct me if I am wrong),but I read somewhere that Electrolux plan over the next few years to
gradually phase out the Hoover and Kelvinator brands and just have 3 brands Simpson,Westinghouse and their own Electrolux brand.
I do not work in marketing as such but I have worked in retail all my life and this is crazy as Hoover and Kelvinator are Oz icons.I do admit that these appliances are made here locally but they are just not Australian owned anymore and there is now no Australian owned whitegoods manufacturer,pretty sad really.
Oh well at least I was able to help some of our U.S.A. friends out last year when I replaced our refrigerator I paid top money and purchased a beautiful G.E. Side-By-Side fridge and I
really love it and it workd like a charm.
I wonder if G.E. would ever consider operating here in Oz?, perhaps some of you guys might know.
I hope you do not lose Maytag as I know when you lose an icon brand you tend to feel a bit lost.
Cheers to everybody.
P.S.Steve Sacto Teddy Bear;thank you for the e-mail and I hope you received mine in reply.
Hi everyone, I hope everyone is okay,
I regret to advise all of you that this situation here in Australia is just as bad or possibly worse, like you good folk we find it nearly impossible to buy anything here which does not come from China or somewhere in Asia.
I remember when Hoover,Kelvinator,Simpson,Westinghouse,Malleys,
and one or two others were all seperate companies here in Oz and if memory serves me correctly these brands were slowly taken over by Email(which made Westinghouse by the way),and so in the end they owned the lot, then a few years ago they sold out to Electrolux and so basically the entire Oz whitegoods industry is owned by 1 company, (so much for competition laws).
I believE (and anyone please correct me if I am wrong),but I read somewhere that Electrolux plan over the next few years to
gradually phase out the Hoover and Kelvinator brands and just have 3 brands Simpson,Westinghouse and their own Electrolux brand.
I do not work in marketing as such but I have worked in retail all my life and this is crazy as Hoover and Kelvinator are Oz icons.I do admit that these appliances are made here locally but they are just not Australian owned anymore and there is now no Australian owned whitegoods manufacturer,pretty sad really.
Oh well at least I was able to help some of our U.S.A. friends out last year when I replaced our refrigerator I paid top money and purchased a beautiful G.E. Side-By-Side fridge and I
really love it and it workd like a charm.
I wonder if G.E. would ever consider operating here in Oz?, perhaps some of you guys might know.
I hope you do not lose Maytag as I know when you lose an icon brand you tend to feel a bit lost.
Cheers to everybody.
P.S.Steve Sacto Teddy Bear;thank you for the e-mail and I hope you received mine in reply.
I doubt very much that GE would ever consider manufacturing and marketing white goods in Oz. I can't see them sticking to the business in N.America much longer either. GE's main business strengths are heavy industry, like power plant generators, locomotives and industrial lighting, not to forget GE Finance and Leasing,(they probably make the most from that line of business)
I find it so hard to believe that the USA which imports tons of cheap labor, (and with it scores and scores of social ills, social and monetary costs and disruptions to mainstream society like crime and gangs and welfare cases etc.)... can't find people (home-grown or transplanted) to work at wages commensurate with skills and education levels.
..and if the unions don't see what they are causing in the long-run by the wages they are ridculously demanding, it is truly sad.
Remember the days when unskilled labor was paid for unskilled labor? Moderately skilled labor was paid accordingly, skilled labor was paid in accordance to that level, professionals were well paid, etc.
I have some friends who never attended college, never fielded two jobs simultaneously never pushed themselves to grow and progress. And they can't understand why they are not well paid and securely employed. Take the easy way way out when young, suffer when old. Today college is mandatory IMHO- it is just a sign of discipline and focus.
and on a larger than the indiviual person scale..
We as humans, in theory have the abilty to look backwards and forwards in time and unlike animals do not have to live in the forever-present current moment. Why then, does the human race refuse to look ahead three or four steps and see the consequences of its actions?
Maybe a huge defect of this world is that eating and economics (both necessaryfor survival)are both part of the food-chain. One must stomp on those below themselves to survive. G-d I wish that were not true.
I apologize for rambling and hope, at this late hour, that this makes some sence and is realted to the issues at hand.
Best regards,
Steve
..and if the unions don't see what they are causing in the long-run by the wages they are ridculously demanding, it is truly sad.
Remember the days when unskilled labor was paid for unskilled labor? Moderately skilled labor was paid accordingly, skilled labor was paid in accordance to that level, professionals were well paid, etc.
I have some friends who never attended college, never fielded two jobs simultaneously never pushed themselves to grow and progress. And they can't understand why they are not well paid and securely employed. Take the easy way way out when young, suffer when old. Today college is mandatory IMHO- it is just a sign of discipline and focus.
and on a larger than the indiviual person scale..
We as humans, in theory have the abilty to look backwards and forwards in time and unlike animals do not have to live in the forever-present current moment. Why then, does the human race refuse to look ahead three or four steps and see the consequences of its actions?
Maybe a huge defect of this world is that eating and economics (both necessaryfor survival)are both part of the food-chain. One must stomp on those below themselves to survive. G-d I wish that were not true.
I apologize for rambling and hope, at this late hour, that this makes some sence and is realted to the issues at hand.
Best regards,
Steve
Well, even though it's sad news, it's not completely unexpected, we just haven't wanted to admit that it was headed for this. Maytag has been hit by the global economy bus and is twitching on the side of the road. It won't be long now...
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College
"I have some friends who never attended college, never fielded two jobs simultaneously never pushed themselves to grow and progress. And they can't understand why they are not well paid and securely employed. Take the easy way way out when young, suffer when old. Today college is mandatory IMHO- it is just a sign of discipline and focus."
Problem is, at the time, I would've LIKED to go to college, but it was financially impossible for me. Plus, at the time (1971), a college degree didn't mean an "automatic" job as it did in previous years. So I ended up with the "double whammy"
"I have some friends who never attended college, never fielded two jobs simultaneously never pushed themselves to grow and progress. And they can't understand why they are not well paid and securely employed. Take the easy way way out when young, suffer when old. Today college is mandatory IMHO- it is just a sign of discipline and focus."
Problem is, at the time, I would've LIKED to go to college, but it was financially impossible for me. Plus, at the time (1971), a college degree didn't mean an "automatic" job as it did in previous years. So I ended up with the "double whammy"
Not everyone is college material. Many folks like to work with their god given hands to get a job done. All we will be is a nation that provides services. As is already happening.
Not everone wants to sit in an office from 9 to 5 pushing pencils or answering telephones. I am a laborer and i for one do not complain about the wage i make. Granted it took many years to start seeing the payoff.
Nobody wants to be left behind. He who has the most toys still dies!
Not everone wants to sit in an office from 9 to 5 pushing pencils or answering telephones. I am a laborer and i for one do not complain about the wage i make. Granted it took many years to start seeing the payoff.
Nobody wants to be left behind. He who has the most toys still dies!
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The plot thickens....
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Sorry kids I did not mean to offend or dis anyone.
It took me 13 years to get 4 year degree (the first one)
5 years full-time, and a course here and there to finally wrap it up. I HATED SCHOOL. Changing schools and then changing majors cost me a semester each!
I should have pointed out that my friend is quite lazy in general, and negative to boot, and expects a top-shelf cushy job without the credentials or the experience. Sorry it came out the wrong way!
It's never too late. I am over 40 and am in undergrad school 95% finished with a second degree. It's such a treat at this point to walk into a classroom and be the professor's age. For my sheer drive and nerve at doing it now , I think they pass me if I raise my hand once and show up now and then! LOL
Never say "never"
And the kicker is? I was an accountant for 20 years with a degree in Finance and Investments. (accounting self-taught). Now that I am now out of that industry. I want that little piece of toilet paper suitable for framing.
It took me 13 years to get 4 year degree (the first one)
5 years full-time, and a course here and there to finally wrap it up. I HATED SCHOOL. Changing schools and then changing majors cost me a semester each!
I should have pointed out that my friend is quite lazy in general, and negative to boot, and expects a top-shelf cushy job without the credentials or the experience. Sorry it came out the wrong way!
It's never too late. I am over 40 and am in undergrad school 95% finished with a second degree. It's such a treat at this point to walk into a classroom and be the professor's age. For my sheer drive and nerve at doing it now , I think they pass me if I raise my hand once and show up now and then! LOL
Never say "never"
And the kicker is? I was an accountant for 20 years with a degree in Finance and Investments. (accounting self-taught). Now that I am now out of that industry. I want that little piece of toilet paper suitable for framing.
No offense was taken, though my post came of as a little touchy. I don't mind doing the kind of work i do. There are things now that i see i would like to get into that i didn't see when i was younger.
As long as you have breath in you, there are opportunities to better oneself, just a matter of making up your mind and going for it.
As long as you have breath in you, there are opportunities to better oneself, just a matter of making up your mind and going for it.
IMHO- There is dignity in any honest job.
Probably the gross-est and simultaneously rewarding job I had was helping a quadriplegic neighbor with his morning needs.
ah..this would include forcing the body to have a BM while he was in his wheelchair, bathing him and dressing him.
Never forget to thank whomever it is you beieve in that you have your senses and your mobility.
Just to say, "Thank you G - - that I met this person and could be in your and his service" I refused the money every few sessions.
So if I came off as elitist or snobby or nasty, It was truly not my intent. I have paid my dues, and expect to have to do so again at any time.
Life has slapped me down plenty... and you just have to learn to say "Thank you, sir, may I have another"
and just to bring it all back down to the level that is expected of me (LOL).... my ethnic group has a really cool expression that says it all. "You can't F _ _ _ me unless I lay down first!"
HOPE springs eternal!!!!!
-end of sermon.
-Kyrie Ele-ison
Probably the gross-est and simultaneously rewarding job I had was helping a quadriplegic neighbor with his morning needs.
ah..this would include forcing the body to have a BM while he was in his wheelchair, bathing him and dressing him.
Never forget to thank whomever it is you beieve in that you have your senses and your mobility.
Just to say, "Thank you G - - that I met this person and could be in your and his service" I refused the money every few sessions.
So if I came off as elitist or snobby or nasty, It was truly not my intent. I have paid my dues, and expect to have to do so again at any time.
Life has slapped me down plenty... and you just have to learn to say "Thank you, sir, may I have another"
and just to bring it all back down to the level that is expected of me (LOL).... my ethnic group has a really cool expression that says it all. "You can't F _ _ _ me unless I lay down first!"
HOPE springs eternal!!!!!
-end of sermon.
-Kyrie Ele-ison
kenmore1978
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phase out
"I believE (and anyone please correct me if I am wrong),but I read somewhere that Electrolux plan over the next few years to
gradually phase out the Hoover and Kelvinator brands and just have 3 brands Simpson,Westinghouse and their own Electrolux brand."
In the US Hoover is owned by Maytag, so I doubt if it's going to be phased out.
Kelvinator IS owned by WCI (Electrolux0 and currently IS being phased out.
"I believE (and anyone please correct me if I am wrong),but I read somewhere that Electrolux plan over the next few years to
gradually phase out the Hoover and Kelvinator brands and just have 3 brands Simpson,Westinghouse and their own Electrolux brand."
In the US Hoover is owned by Maytag, so I doubt if it's going to be phased out.
Kelvinator IS owned by WCI (Electrolux0 and currently IS being phased out.
kenmore1978
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"I was an accountant for 20 years with a degree in Finance and Investments."
What's good about your situation is that you now have TWO options for employment, and accounting is something that wil always be needed, and can even be done on the side as a small business. So you could still be well-served by your degree.
"I was an accountant for 20 years with a degree in Finance and Investments."
What's good about your situation is that you now have TWO options for employment, and accounting is something that wil always be needed, and can even be done on the side as a small business. So you could still be well-served by your degree.
TKS!
As you can probably guess, my personality type and accounting are not necessarily compatible!
My last gig as an accountant was with a CPA firm that "did" big famous musical artists that we have all heard-of.
That place was as dry as as any desert in the Middle-East, and I'm not talking about a really good de-humidifier, either.
When my position was eliminated, I had to calm-down the geek-azoid dork CPA who axed me! LOL LOL LOL I thought he was gonna keel-over!
And because the universe is frequently working me in ironic ways... I was to meet the partner and the mother-in-law for dinner and a Broadway show just moments later, that night (a Friday, natch.)
I said nothing at first. It took them both an hour to realize I had the contents of my desk in a shopping bag, and that my mood was a bit "off".
But I had a wave of something come through me (may I call it the Holy Spirit?) and absolutely KNEW with every fiber of my being that I had to go through the experience and somehow I would land on my feet.
The other two at the table were boucing off the ceiling when I dropped the bomb, I was just fine.
I was signed up to go back to school P/T for a 2nd degree, so I just switched to F/T.
I was on umemployment [the "dole" for the unemployed] for 1.5 years and was able get the schooling nearly finsihed.
Got a state license as well as an appraiser.. sent resumes out using the Yellow Pages (bisoness telephone diectory) and got a realy decent job 10 miles (20km) 10 minutes from home. I was able to change careers to something of interest and can make tons more money...
BOTTTOM LINE: Good comes out of all experiences no matter how "bad" at the time.
ME ME ME ME ME.. LOL thanks for listening!
As you can probably guess, my personality type and accounting are not necessarily compatible!
My last gig as an accountant was with a CPA firm that "did" big famous musical artists that we have all heard-of.
That place was as dry as as any desert in the Middle-East, and I'm not talking about a really good de-humidifier, either.
When my position was eliminated, I had to calm-down the geek-azoid dork CPA who axed me! LOL LOL LOL I thought he was gonna keel-over!
And because the universe is frequently working me in ironic ways... I was to meet the partner and the mother-in-law for dinner and a Broadway show just moments later, that night (a Friday, natch.)
I said nothing at first. It took them both an hour to realize I had the contents of my desk in a shopping bag, and that my mood was a bit "off".
But I had a wave of something come through me (may I call it the Holy Spirit?) and absolutely KNEW with every fiber of my being that I had to go through the experience and somehow I would land on my feet.
The other two at the table were boucing off the ceiling when I dropped the bomb, I was just fine.
I was signed up to go back to school P/T for a 2nd degree, so I just switched to F/T.
I was on umemployment [the "dole" for the unemployed] for 1.5 years and was able get the schooling nearly finsihed.
Got a state license as well as an appraiser.. sent resumes out using the Yellow Pages (bisoness telephone diectory) and got a realy decent job 10 miles (20km) 10 minutes from home. I was able to change careers to something of interest and can make tons more money...
BOTTTOM LINE: Good comes out of all experiences no matter how "bad" at the time.
ME ME ME ME ME.. LOL thanks for listening!
OMG! It's official on the radio!!! Haier Group!?!
I just heard the news on WTOP via the Internet. They outbid the NY firm that was in the running (Blackstone group?). WTOP reported it is being acquired for $1.8 BILLION?! Unbelievable...
I just heard the news on WTOP via the Internet. They outbid the NY firm that was in the running (Blackstone group?). WTOP reported it is being acquired for $1.8 BILLION?! Unbelievable...
...A moment of silence....
I saw the news of Haier acquiring Maytag on the Yahoo News homepage.
Guys, let's not put the final nails in the foccin yet. The bid, according to news reports, isn't official yet. So, until it's formally tendered and accepted, .....
